[ANN] TerraDICE! Bounty Winner up and Running!

[crazy_rabbit]

Thanks to user mskwik who won the 2000TRC bounty for creating a TRC Dice game, we now have a working TerraDice! Now you've got something fun to do with all those TRC I've been giving away. :-)

TerraDICE: http://greenishblue.info/terradice

You can also setup your own affiliate links for TerraDice, meaning you can set up your own game, at your own site and earn!

Affiliate: https://litedice.greenishblue.info/

Congratulations again to mskwik for winning the Bounty for the Terradice! 

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[crazy_rabbit]

Transactions are up on Terradice. Seems like people like to play. :-) The min bets have been raised on everything as well.

[Tomatocage]

What is the "Under 2000/4000/8000" thing?

[nethead]

What is the "Under 2000/4000/8000" thing?

What you bet that the number you roll will be, and below at the row "Lucky #" is the number rolled(if im not mistaken). Same as shatosi dice
But it still seems that i always lose lol, though i see wins at the page

[Tomatocage]

Ah, ok. I've never played Satoshi Dice either.

[nethead]

Ah, ok. I've never played Satoshi Dice either.

bolded coz it has to be seen  

[crazy_rabbit]

What is the "Under 2000/4000/8000" thing?

What you bet that the number you roll will be, and below at the row "Lucky #" is the number rolled(if im not mistaken). Same as shatosi dice
But it still seems that i always lose lol, though i see wins at the page

I can verify that I have been winning. :-) Not always though, but I only play the 73% chance one. :-)

[DarkHyudrA]

Ah, ok. I've never played Satoshi Dice either.

Me neither

[mskwik]

If you take a look at the details page for any of the bets you can see how the outcome is calculated.  The bets from yesterday (like http://greenishblue.info/terradice/8b94569a6e5d2d94d8e4b81e791445b8db6e6ecfb3f92596f70d5a834a685660-1.html) will have the secret revealed so that the outcome can be verified while ones from today will just have {secret} displayed until the day is over and it moves on to the next secret in the list.

Note that while writing this I attempted to verify that bet and found there is an extra newline in the middle of the hash that makes it somewhat more difficult to calculate/check.  I have adjusted that so it will be a single line in future bets, but when checking older ones you will have to insert a newline between the secret and the ":" to get the same hash.  This doesn't affect the randomness, just makes it somewhat harder to verify the fairness of the results.

[c4n10]

Hello,

Can I please have some assistance with the LiteDice affiliate setup...?

I created a new address in terracoin, exported the address's private key, entered the private key in the web form where it is asked for, selected TRC for my currency, gave the corresponding address for the private key where it says "commission address" on the web form, entered the rest of the required info and submitted and I am receiving: "Invalid Private Key".

Thank you in advance for any help you may be able to provide...

[Tomatocage]

I'm beginning to see the appeal of this game.

[Tomatocage]

How "instant" is the payout when you win?  I just played 20 times on the address that's supposed to have a 73%+ win chance (1trcDiceQx9H8oXtYYTMWRGX12wMSfDn5) but either I just haven't won anything, or I'm not seeing any payouts returned to me.  Do I have to configure anything client-side?

[crazy_rabbit]

How "instant" is the payout when you win?  I just played 20 times on the address that's supposed to have a 73%+ win chance (1trcDiceQx9H8oXtYYTMWRGX12wMSfDn5) but either I just haven't won anything, or I'm not seeing any payouts returned to me.  Do I have to configure anything client-side?

I believe it's instant up to the speed of the network, so you it need to at least get broadcast. It's not lightning fast instant. On top of that already TRCDice is getting a lot of traffic so a backlog could probably happen, just like with Satoshi dice, sometimes you need to wait for the server to process through all the transactions. I'm sure you will be fine though, just give it time.

[Tomatocage]

How "instant" is the payout when you win?  I just played 20 times on the address that's supposed to have a 73%+ win chance (1trcDiceQx9H8oXtYYTMWRGX12wMSfDn5) but either I just haven't won anything, or I'm not seeing any payouts returned to me.  Do I have to configure anything client-side?

I believe it's instant up to the speed of the network, so you it need to at least get broadcast. It's not lightning fast instant. On top of that already TRCDice is getting a lot of traffic so a backlog could probably happen, just like with Satoshi dice, sometimes you need to wait for the server to process through all the transactions. I'm sure you will be fine though, just give it time.

It's been about 20 minutes now, but I'll give it some more time. Thanks for the feedback!

[crazy_rabbit]

How "instant" is the payout when you win?  I just played 20 times on the address that's supposed to have a 73%+ win chance (1trcDiceQx9H8oXtYYTMWRGX12wMSfDn5) but either I just haven't won anything, or I'm not seeing any payouts returned to me.  Do I have to configure anything client-side?

I agree, something is broken there. Address is question does not payout even close to 73%+ chance, check it on explorer.

"Recent bets" table shows all bets as 0.1 TRC.

I want my 8 TRC bet refunded - I expect to be paid for testing, not the other way around.

Well I don't run Terradice personally, so you'll have to ask user mskwik.

BUT I would still give it time- I just had added an "autoplay" feature on www.terrawallet.com and as a part of that I was testing by sending hundreds of bets. :-) So maybe the server is slow.  

As a small note though- you might want to wait then until the services are more mature if the idea of possibly losing coins is unacceptable for you. All this is beta, it is certainly possible that you could lose coins. In the worst case senario someone could still nuke TRC and everything be worthless. So, take it all with a grain of salt for the meantime.

[Tomatocage]

I just saw a bet of 8 TRC win with a payout of 10.x TRC.  Was that yours Strata?

Edit: I think all those .1 TRC bets for <48K preceding it are mine.  But I have no idea whose payout address that is.

[crazy_rabbit]

I just saw a bet of 8 TRC win with a payout of 10.x TRC.  Was that yours Strata?

Edit: I think all those .1 TRC bets for <48K preceding it are mine.  But I have no idea whose payout address that is.

Could be me, I'm testing for bugs and I've done hundreds of bets in the past minute or two.

[Tomatocage]

I'm sending from my terracoin-qt client. Do I have to use an online wallet or something?

[crazy_rabbit]

I'm sending from my terracoin-qt client. Do I have to use an online wallet or something?

No, you're fine. In fact sending from the client is more reliable I suspect because I could always have something wrong with the wallet. That said, the wallet makes it easier to send lots of smaller bets. So for example you could transfer 10TRC to the instawallet, and then plow out lots of .1 or .01 bets must faster then you could with the client. With the client however you'll have more control and you'll see your transactions in a cleaner format. So, your choice!

[JesterOfTortuga]

I had a couple of transactions that were stuck yesterday, I PM'd mskwik and the situation was rectified in just a couple of minutes. It's new so it has some quirks but it seems like it can turn out to be nice.

[crazy_rabbit]

How "instant" is the payout when you win?  I just played 20 times on the address that's supposed to have a 73%+ win chance (1trcDiceQx9H8oXtYYTMWRGX12wMSfDn5) but either I just haven't won anything, or I'm not seeing any payouts returned to me.  Do I have to configure anything client-side?

I agree, something is broken there. Address is question does not payout even close to 73%+ chance, check it on explorer.

"Recent bets" table shows all bets as 0.1 TRC.

I want my 8 TRC bet refunded - I expect to be paid for testing, not the other way around.

As a small note though- you might want to wait then until the services are more mature if the idea of possibly losing coins is unacceptable for you. All this is beta, it is certainly possible that you could lose coins. In the worst case senario someone could still nuke TRC and everything be worthless. So, take it all with a grain of salt for the meantime.

Thanks to user mskwik who won the 2000TRC bounty for creating a TRC Dice game, we now have a working TerraDice!

... and another example of working game, not my bet this time:

Input > http://greenishblue.info/terradice/70dd4edae75ad572fa6e9657e68795d99c8f4d1e336484899fc23ccb25a1386a-1.html
No payout after 1+ hours > http://www.cryptocoinexplorer.com:3750/address/14JUay6PfjApiLu1JG7S1gTzGy8bqT19X9

No payout at all for all those winning bets at left table - sorting oppossite than table on right. I suggest you to change thread title and make a big red notice!

Hmm, well the guy who runs it will have to take care of it. That said, satoshi dice isn't always instant- although at least they keep a seperate list for the confirmed wins and confirmed payouts.

Also, I might be wrong about this, but doens't it have to wait until it's confirmed before it's sent back? Since it uses the inputs as the output?

[crazy_rabbit]

Lets wait for the guy who runs it to comment on it- he responds to PM's and this behavior is pretty typical even for Satoshi dice. Being that I created this thread it's possible he doesn't monitor it, (and it's the weekend so maybe it will take till monday to get a response). It could be any number of things really.

EDIT: I checked the transaction at 15:19 in the blockexplorer and it still says "not yet redeemed at input"

[mskwik]

Sorry all, it does appear my local terracoind added me to its ban list.  I'm adjusting its parameters and restarting it, should get payouts moving again shortly.

[c4n10]

Hello,

Can I please have some assistance with the LiteDice affiliate setup...?

I created a new address in terracoin, exported the address's private key, entered the private key in the web form where it is asked for, selected TRC for my currency, gave the corresponding address for the private key where it says "commission address" on the web form, entered the rest of the required info and submitted and I am receiving: "Invalid Private Key".

Thank you in advance for any help you may be able to provide...

Can I please get some help with this...?

[GoldenWings91]

Create an sha256 hash and use the hex version of that hash as private key. http://hash.online-convert.com/sha256-generator

[mskwik]

Hello,

Can I please have some assistance with the LiteDice affiliate setup...?

I created a new address in terracoin, exported the address's private key, entered the private key in the web form where it is asked for, selected TRC for my currency, gave the corresponding address for the private key where it says "commission address" on the web form, entered the rest of the required info and submitted and I am receiving: "Invalid Private Key".

Thank you in advance for any help you may be able to provide...

Can I please get some help with this...?

Is the key it doesn't like in hex format or a wallet format?  I've tested more extensively with the hex format, I know it's somewhat picky about it being the right length and needs to be padded with 0s if it's short.

[c4n10]

Create an sha256 hash and use the hex version of that hash as private key. http://hash.online-convert.com/sha256-generator

This solution worked, thanks!

Sent you some TRC - tx id: b03f822c4e1c57137fa7f71395135e392e6b9b5b5d0abdfc0a8cdd8f2ff1d799

[GoldenWings91]

Sweet thanks 

[Tomatocage]

I think my winnings finally came in... all in one lump sump though.  Weird.

[crazy_rabbit]

I think my winnings finally came in... all in one lump sump though.  Weird.

The admin had to change a setting to get the server to payout- turns out my 'testing' was a surprise in terms of volume.

[Tomatocage]

I think it's working now.  From all the .1 and 1.0 TRC bets I did yesterday, I ended up by about 3 TRC once I got the payouts. Fun stuff!

[GoldenWings91]

Don't even try: http://greenishblue.info/terradice/1ExB8tw885mdnN9tuZ8iThHhZGiLGuk78p.html

[crazy_rabbit]

Don't even try: http://greenishblue.info/terradice/1ExB8tw885mdnN9tuZ8iThHhZGiLGuk78p.html

I might if the max bet wasn't under .05TRC :-)

[c4n10]

Don't even try: http://greenishblue.info/terradice/1ExB8tw885mdnN9tuZ8iThHhZGiLGuk78p.html

I might if the max bet wasn't under .05TRC :-)

The max bet will increase when there is more TRC in the wallet...

[mskwik]

Don't even try: http://greenishblue.info/terradice/1ExB8tw885mdnN9tuZ8iThHhZGiLGuk78p.html

I might if the max bet wasn't under .05TRC :-)

The max bet will increase when there is more TRC in the wallet...

Yes it will, but more slowly on that one than on most since the winning payout is that much bigger.

[Tomatocage]

Hey mskwik, would it be possible to show historical stats like SatoshiDice does for recent bets, big wins, rare wins, etc?

[mskwik]

Hey mskwik, would it be possible to show historical stats like SatoshiDice does for recent bets, big wins, rare wins, etc?

Stats as in aggregate stats like the Satoshi Dice thread in the technical section here or more a list like on the Satoshi Dice site itself?  The recent bets would be the list it shows now, I could add lists for recent big/rare wins fairly easily.  I suppose aggregate stats wouldn't be too hard either, the only thing I would worry about there would be if/how to include affiliate addresses.

[nethead]

Hey mskwik, would it be possible to show historical stats like SatoshiDice does for recent bets, big wins, rare wins, etc?

Stats as in aggregate stats like the Satoshi Dice thread in the technical section here or more a list like on the Satoshi Dice site itself?  The recent bets would be the list it shows now, I could add lists for recent big/rare wins fairly easily.  I suppose aggregate stats wouldn't be too hard either, the only thing I would worry about there would be if/how to include affiliate addresses.

hmm... if you do it then im stopping the development of http://dice.spore.gr (frontend for your dice script - getting the data from your server)
which was going to canio

[mskwik]

Hey mskwik, would it be possible to show historical stats like SatoshiDice does for recent bets, big wins, rare wins, etc?

Stats as in aggregate stats like the Satoshi Dice thread in the technical section here or more a list like on the Satoshi Dice site itself?  The recent bets would be the list it shows now, I could add lists for recent big/rare wins fairly easily.  I suppose aggregate stats wouldn't be too hard either, the only thing I would worry about there would be if/how to include affiliate addresses.

hmm... if you do it then im stopping the development of http://dice.spore.gr (frontend for your dice script - getting the data from your server)
which was going to canio

Ah, that's a good point as well, that sort of statistics is something else that affiliates can use to add value to their own particular play addresses beyond just look/marketing.  Generally I would prefer to concentrate on keeping things running smoothly and leave the marketing to the affiliate system for affiliates to earn their share.  I do like the way that page is looking so far, perhaps for now I'll stick with just basic information that can't be calculated otherwise on the output pages and if you come up with something that can't be figured out with the existing data given I can see about adding it to the output across the board.

[nethead]

Hey mskwik, would it be possible to show historical stats like SatoshiDice does for recent bets, big wins, rare wins, etc?

Stats as in aggregate stats like the Satoshi Dice thread in the technical section here or more a list like on the Satoshi Dice site itself?  The recent bets would be the list it shows now, I could add lists for recent big/rare wins fairly easily.  I suppose aggregate stats wouldn't be too hard either, the only thing I would worry about there would be if/how to include affiliate addresses.

hmm... if you do it then im stopping the development of http://dice.spore.gr (frontend for your dice script - getting the data from your server)
which was going to canio

Ah, that's a good point as well, that sort of statistics is something else that affiliates can use to add value to their own particular play addresses beyond just look/marketing.  Generally I would prefer to concentrate on keeping things running smoothly and leave the marketing to the affiliate system for affiliates to earn their share.  I do like the way that page is looking so far, perhaps for now I'll stick with just basic information that can't be calculated otherwise on the output pages and if you come up with something that can't be figured out with the existing data given I can see about adding it to the output across the board.

Great then, i will go on. Hmm one thing that could be usefull for me and any other that tries to make a frontend is having table names or ids (eg "t1" and "t2") and ids or names also on the addresses/games <td>'s (eg "g1" "g2" etc). Even if you dont add id's or names to those objects still can be done, the hard way (for me). I will make the statistics by logging and re-reading your output(2nd table) page, there is no problem.

EDIT: (if you add id's please pm me   )
EDIT: k, no need for that

[c4n10]

I tried to set up a second address with different odds, everything worked fine, got my confirmation email, sent the address a couple bets, but when I try to visit the page for that address: http://greenishblue.info/terradice/1HgcTmFCUen5x2SPFv4pY3mSC7db2styLe.html I receive a 404 error...

Please help!!!

Thanks!!!

[c4n10]

I tried to set up a second address with different odds, everything worked fine, got my confirmation email, sent the address a couple bets, but when I try to visit the page for that address: http://greenishblue.info/terradice/1HgcTmFCUen5x2SPFv4pY3mSC7db2styLe.html I receive a 404 error...

Please help!!!

Thanks!!!

n/m it's working now, lol...

[mskwik]

I tried to set up a second address with different odds, everything worked fine, got my confirmation email, sent the address a couple bets, but when I try to visit the page for that address: http://greenishblue.info/terradice/1HgcTmFCUen5x2SPFv4pY3mSC7db2styLe.html I receive a 404 error...

Please help!!!

Thanks!!!

n/m it's working now, lol...

Yeah, it won't have a page for any affiliate address until it's finished processing the first bet through it, just to avoid cluttering up the server too much with addresses that don't get used.

[Tomatocage]

TRC payouts have been happening pretty fast lately, but I just got a lucky string of 62+ TRC wins that I haven't seen pay out yet. Do I just have to wait for the reserve to build up again?

[Tomatocage]

Hmm yeah I'm still missing three 62.x TRC  payouts and one 15.x TRC payout.  I have saved the transaction IDs if that would help. Any ideas, Kwik?

[mskwik]

Hmm yeah I'm still missing three 62.x TRC  payouts and one 15.x TRC payout.  I have saved the transaction IDs if that would help. Any ideas, Kwik?

Yeah, found another small problem, those payouts are on their way.  Coin selector was running short on inputs that passed the double-spend protection rules and gave up, I've adjusted it to keep retrying in that particular case now so there might be a little delay but not more than a couple minutes.  Will also get better as the change transaction sizes even out and it has more to work with, right now the wallet is the main bottleneck in payout speeds that can't be threaded well without more coins for the coin selector.

[Tomatocage]

I wish there were a way to bet on 60K+ rolls instead of 4K- rolls.  You'd think they'd be about equal.

[c4n10]

I wish there were a way to bet on 60K+ rolls instead of 4K- rolls.  You'd think they'd be about equal.

Try these: TerraDice

[mskwik]

I wish there were a way to bet on 60K+ rolls instead of 4K- rolls.  You'd think they'd be about equal.

Not sure I see why it would make any difference.  The number can be chosen so the odds are exactly equal with a "more than" or a "less than" bet.  Since the lucky hash creation includes the output number it's not like any bets even in the same transaction will share a hash (thus allowing betting in a given range).  At a first glance it just seems like it would make the calculation/verification more complicated without really adding any value.  Is there some other reason for the request or is it just cosmetic?

[mskwik]

Since the game has now handled over 11,000 bets and seems to be running fairly stable I have bumped the max bet limit up to 50 TRC.

[Rubberduckie]

just won 52 TRC with a 10 TRC bet

(but lost 70 TRC too)

[crazy_rabbit]

Since the game has now handled over 11,000 bets and seems to be running fairly stable I have bumped the max bet limit up to 50 TRC.

Sweetness. :-)

[Rubberduckie]

quite happy with my 560 TRC win on a 35 TRC bet, although I'm 400 TRC down still

[Rubberduckie]

any chance of increasing the max bet so I can win my money back?

[mskwik]

any chance of increasing the max bet so I can win my money back?

Think I may need to make some more adjustments at this level before going higher.  I noticed that those large wins take quite a while for it to generate the payout transactions, think I either need to adjust the coin selection algorithm or get the wallet access there threaded better so it doesn't hold up everything else quite so much when generating large payouts if it's going to happen often.