Apple or the FBI… whose side are you on in the iPhone privacy battle?

[criptix]

To all people with short term memory, please try to recollect the name 'Snowden' and the revelations of Snowden about companies like Google or Apple or Facebook.

I think this is a PR stunt.

If Tim Cook really care about privacy, maybe he shouldn't collect too many userdata. The same for Google. Maybe stop reading emails for starters.

Snowden is about the NSA, the US government. I'm sure that in the terms of use of Apple, this is mentionned somewhere that they will collect your data, but you never signed any contract with the NSA...

Snowden have said many times that companies like Apple and Facebook and Google and major ISPs do work with NSA. NSA or FBI, both are government.

So this confirm what I said numerous times before : everything which relates to the United States is bad, is devil and must be avoided at any cost.

Hail soviet russia 

Btw. This is just pr. The master key is already included

[Elwar]

I side with FBI because...

public forum

[TECSHARE]

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160220/22154433660/fbi-told-san-bernardino-to-change-password-which-is-why-fbi-now-cant-access-farooks-iphone-data.shtml

[craked5]

To all people with short term memory, please try to recollect the name 'Snowden' and the revelations of Snowden about companies like Google or Apple or Facebook.

I think this is a PR stunt.

If Tim Cook really care about privacy, maybe he shouldn't collect too many userdata. The same for Google. Maybe stop reading emails for starters.

Snowden is about the NSA, the US government. I'm sure that in the terms of use of Apple, this is mentionned somewhere that they will collect your data, but you never signed any contract with the NSA...

Snowden have said many times that companies like Apple and Facebook and Google and major ISPs do work with NSA. NSA or FBI, both are government.

So this confirm what I said numerous times before : everything which relates to the United States is bad, is devil and must be avoided at any cost.

Of course. USA is one of the worst country in the world and they invaded the whole Europe, South America and Africa. Only Russia and China can resist them :-/

[bitbunnny]

This is a strange situation to my opinion. Private data protection is not so important in USA, like is in Europe, in some areas private data protection has no value at all, but suddenly Aple is so worried about privacy of their users. I'm not taking any side just want to say how perspective can change depending on interests.

[craked5]

This is a strange situation to my opinion. Private data protection is not so important in USA, like is in Europe, in some areas private data protection has no value at all, but suddenly Aple is so worried about privacy of their users. I'm not taking any side just want to say how perspective can change depending on interests.

Yeah that's right! It's strange that it makes such a debate in the USA!
Most of the time they don't care about privacy!
They invented Fb after all xD

[Karartma1]

As others noticed the fact that Apple or Google are worried about privacy is really hilarious! I mean they profile any given data about their customers now what is all this fuss regarding some privacy concerns? It seemes only a way to keep customers happy about their data are " safe " with them

[spazzdla]

I am wondering how many of you really understand what can happen with backdoors on phones...  I would of thought you did but after reading this.. wow.

[Losvienleg]

I am wondering how many of you really understand what can happen with backdoors on phones...  I would of thought you did but after reading this.. wow.

I don't think that I'm concerned, since I don't live in the shitty country which the United States are. They can spy me if they want, they'll never be able to touch me.

[spazzdla]

I am wondering how many of you really understand what can happen with backdoors on phones...  I would of thought you did but after reading this.. wow.

I don't think that I'm concerned, since I don't live in the shitty country which the United States are. They can spy me if they want, they'll never be able to touch me.

You really don't get it at all do you...

This ignorance and widely opinionated is why the world is so fucked up..

What happens when Russia steals all of Microsoft's, IBM's, Apples, Googles top CEO's damming E-mails and posts them all over the web as retaliation for the sanctions?

This will be the beginning of a war.. although with our ecom so fucked perhaps that is the plan of these disgusting pigs.

[designerusa]

I don't like Apple as a company, but of course I'm on their side in this debate. I don't care what the terrorist did, unlocking the phone would set a precedent and be very dangerous for everyone.

It's funny how everyone asking Apple to do this are technologically clueless, when all the tech-related people are on Apple's side. That should tell us something.

It's a bit like politicians in general saying silly things like "encryption should be banned", they don't know what they're talking about and just want to secure votes from the clueless electorate so it looks like they're doing something against terrorism and child porn etc. It makes me mad.

i dislike apple too. and i think they are so right to not giving personal information of their clients to government whether it is right or not.. privcy is pricvy...

[Losvienleg]

I am wondering how many of you really understand what can happen with backdoors on phones...  I would of thought you did but after reading this.. wow.

I don't think that I'm concerned, since I don't live in the shitty country which the United States are. They can spy me if they want, they'll never be able to touch me.

You really don't get it at all do you...

This ignorance and widely opinionated is why the world is so fucked up..

What happens when Russia steals all of Microsoft's, IBM's, Apples, Googles top CEO's damming E-mails and posts them all over the web as retaliation for the sanctions?

This will be the beginning of a war.. although with our ecom so fucked perhaps that is the plan of these disgusting pigs.

I hope that it will be the beggining of a war. Russia is threatened by the USA for no reason at all ! At least I hope they will act as real men and will fight back. I know that soon there will the WW3. I only hope that the new coming superpower will be pro-Russia, because this newsuperpower won't do the same mistakes as the 2 Reich that were before it, and thus won"t declare war to both Russia and the USA. That mean that one of those two countries won't survive WW3, and I'm convinced that Russia will be the winner.

[YepImNaked]

I am wondering how many of you really understand what can happen with backdoors on phones...  I would of thought you did but after reading this.. wow.

Yeah, it's kind of surprising to see so many people in this forum, of all places, siding with the FBI on this.

- Naked

[TheIrishman]

FBI may have found way to unlock San Bernardino iPhone without Apple

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/mar/21/fbi-apple-court-hearing-postpone-unlock-terrorist-iphone

<< A court hearing designed to force Apple into compromising its security systems for the iPhone was cancelled Monday at the request of federal authorities, who said they potentially had another way into the San Bernardino shooter's phone. The astonishing reversal kicks the can down the road in what had become the climax of a two year battle over digital privacy between the US government and Silicon Valley. At the same time, the standoff between Apple and the Justice Department drew so much attention that policymakers or another court may weigh in soon regardless.

The government has until 5 April to determine whether it wants to pursue the case. Apple's attorneys, in a conference call with reporters, said they do not consider the development a legal victory and warned they could be back in the same situation in two weeks. The attorneys spoke on the condition of not being quoted by name. The company's lawyers said they were as surprised as anyone and learned of the development in an afternoon phone call.

The government's potential solution raises its own questions: if investigators figure out a way to hack into the device without Apple's help, are they obligated to show Apple the security flaw they used to get inside? Attorneys for Apple, which almost assuredly would then patch such a flaw, said they would demand the government share their methods if they successfully get inside the phone. >>

[ReLoad]

Look out for fishy root certs in a ios device near you soon! oh and every android version available.

[designerusa]

I don't like to say that, but I'm in the Apple side. Even if I hate this company, her action and her leader, it can't be worst than THE terrorist nation, the USA, devil's country.

i am exactly agree with you.. the usa is the evilest , the most hypocrite country of this world.. i hate apple too but it is better than united states..

[samlanhan1]

Apple on this one if it's real. If they just want information on a specific user you'd think they'd just ask Apple vs. asking them to use their software.

[TheIrishman]

US ends case against Apple after pulling data from San Bernardino iPhone

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/mar/28/apple-fbi-case-dropped-san-bernardino-iphone

<< The US government on Monday dropped its court fight against Apple after it successfully pulled data from the iPhone of San Bernardino gunman Syed Farook, according to court records. The development effectively ends a six-week legal battle that was poised to shape digital privacy for years to come. Justice Department lawyers wrote in a court filing Monday evening that they no longer needed Apple's help in getting around the security countermeasures on Farook's device.

"The government has now successfully accessed the data stored on Farook's iPhone and therefore no longer requires the assistance from Apple Inc", the government said. It then asked the court to vacate a 16 February court order demanding Apple create software that weakened iPhone security settings to aid government investigators.

The Guardian has reported that the technique used by the government has been classified. >>

[Zeke2345]

Privacy is always key to me and trumps anything the FBI is selling as a narrative to gain more control over people.
Government is a extension of the people and should be treated as such,the idea the we need to be monitored means they no longer represent the populous.
If you keep letting them extend monitoring aspects you eventually have a 24 hour monitoring system in place.
People that scream there is nothing wrong with that I have nothing to hide usually believe their actions can not be misconstrued as shady.
Say you are in the same block as a terrorist,you are now rounded up because you where in the vicinity. Questioned and then released.
So in essence guilty till proven innocent. I will not live in that world,period!

[LuanX3]

apple side too, cause it just doesn't worth it let all the users vulnerable just to bust one terrorist, they must find other way to bust him