My cryptsy alt coins are gone for good..?

[spazzdla]

Any real update on this cryptsy situation?? All the other threads are people just bitching.


If you are coming here to bitch please go to the other 15 threads.

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[franky1]

Any real update on this cryptsy situation?? All the other threads are people just bitching.


If you are coming here to bitch please go to the other 15 threads.

more news in a few days.. (translation, weeks or not at all)

so knowing you cant to anything else all you can do is wait and see.
if you are thinking of joining a lawsuit. do not file it against cryptsy, file it against 'project investors inc' (the head company) because cryptsy is just an empty vessel/limb with no assets. or against vern himself. maybe that will prompt him to pay you out sooner.

filing against cryptsy wont get you anything because crypsy does not hold the fincen registration and can easily be thrown into bankruptcy and leave people without anything. but 'project investors inc' isnt as easy to throw away

[Za1n]

Seeing as the last update was on February 1st, with only a few more wallets opened on that date, I think it is pretty much over by now. I had some hope they would open up Doge withdrawals, as I had quite a few left on Cryptsy, but now I think it is gone too. I know they won't be opening up any BTC or LTC as that is what they claim was stolen, but I think they had already drained any substantial funds out of the alt wallets and all that were left were the scraps.

At this point I would say to consider it all gone and move on with life. Getting worked up over it will do not good and just hold you back from doing more productive things with your time.

[franky1]

Seeing as the last update was on February 1st, with only a few more wallets opened on that date, I think it is pretty much over by now. I had some hope they would open up Doge withdrawals, as I had quite a few left on Cryptsy, but now I think it is gone too. I know they won't be opening up any BTC or LTC as that is what they claim was stolen, but I think they had already drained any substantial funds out of the alt wallets and all that were left were the scraps.

At this point I would say to consider it all gone and move on with life. Getting worked up over it will do not good and just hold you back from doing more productive things with your time.

claimed stolen over a year ago.

with the trading fee's etc they could easily have re-compensated the losses over a year, so try not to believe that their bitcoin holdings are empty. especially with users AFTER the supposed theft was added too.

[spazzdla]

Seeing as the last update was on February 1st, with only a few more wallets opened on that date, I think it is pretty much over by now. I had some hope they would open up Doge withdrawals, as I had quite a few left on Cryptsy, but now I think it is gone too. I know they won't be opening up any BTC or LTC as that is what they claim was stolen, but I think they had already drained any substantial funds out of the alt wallets and all that were left were the scraps.

At this point I would say to consider it all gone and move on with life. Getting worked up over it will do not good and just hold you back from doing more productive things with your time.

I was hoping to get my sexcoins..

I have accepted any top 50 coins are gone. 

[Za1n]

Seeing as the last update was on February 1st, with only a few more wallets opened on that date, I think it is pretty much over by now. I had some hope they would open up Doge withdrawals, as I had quite a few left on Cryptsy, but now I think it is gone too. I know they won't be opening up any BTC or LTC as that is what they claim was stolen, but I think they had already drained any substantial funds out of the alt wallets and all that were left were the scraps.

At this point I would say to consider it all gone and move on with life. Getting worked up over it will do not good and just hold you back from doing more productive things with your time.

claimed stolen over a year ago.

with the trading fee's etc they could easily have re-compensated the losses over a year, so try not to believe that their bitcoin holdings are empty. especially with users AFTER the supposed theft was added too.

Yeah, I don't know either I suspect Cryptsy (Big Vern) ran off with the vast majority of funds myself. In any event, I think any chance that the users will get any significant return of their coins is slim to none at this point.

I didn't have enough there to warrant pursuing legal action, thus my desire to simply move on (live and learn). I just hope the law catches up with Big Vern, as it would be a shame for him to walk away without any consequences. Even if his story was 100% legit, which again I doubt, there has to be something illegal about the fact he did not tell users about the theft while continuing to accept deposits as if nothing happened.

[DimensionZ]

What is the status on the hunt for the hacker who stole the coins? Has anyone provided info on the matter and claimed the bounty?

[Gleb Gamow]

What is the status on the hunt for the hacker who stole the coins? Has anyone provided info on the matter and claimed the bounty?

98.6% of people know that Paul Vernon did it, ergo nobody gets the bounty except Paul.

[unamis76]

Official information goes here. If there's anything to add it will be there (so you can spare yourself from reading troll threads ). And yes, your coins are most likely gone for good.

[LiberOptions]

Not only yours... mine as well. Those bastards disapeared and are now having a great vacation paid by the exchange users.
Godamn Fags

[BTCBinary]

I would very much love to tell you that you are wrong, but unfortunately I guess that we will not see our money again.
So if you are still thinking about it, just forget it otherwise you will get a terrible headache

[CryptoGore]

Sorry if i'm out of the cryptsy and altcoin exchange business for a while, and now not so updated, but what happened to Cryptsy?

Same old goxxing style?

[CryptoGore]

no, not like Mt Gox.  Mt Gox could have been legitimately hacked.  cryptsy was an inside job.  odds are that a few wallet types could have been hacked, but hackers would have had to hack every type of wallet to drain them.  cryptsy must have hundreds of other wallets unhacked and could liquidate them to make investors somewhat whole again.  these multi coin exchanges usually only have one type of coin hacked or stolen at a time.  mt gox was unfortunate because the one type of coin stolen just happened to be the only type of coin they supported.  for a multi coin exchange, just  having a single type of coin stolen is a big deal.  having every type of coin stolen is an obvious inside job.

Ok understood. thanks.

[calkob]

I had bitcoin stored at cryptsy, not alot now less than 1.  but i left it there for over 6 month about a 1 and half ago i tried to get a new login password but it took over 6 month to sort out and by that time they had raised the white flag,,,,, i was never getting it back at that stage.....;(

[CryptoGore]

Many exchange did this kind of "exit" and many more will follow...that's the nature of online business + money + low security.

[Blawpaw]

Many exchange did this kind of "exit" and many more will follow...that's the nature of online business + money + low security.

I agree! It doesn't have to be a bitcoin related business to go away like this. Throughout the internet history we have seen multiple companies coming and go!

[vilain]

Many exchange did this kind of "exit" and many more will follow...that's the nature of online business + money + low security.

I agree! It doesn't have to be a bitcoin related business to go away like this. Throughout the internet history we have seen multiple companies coming and go!

That's why the best strategy is always to diversify investments among various companies, wallets, etc.

Most people disregard the high risk involved in BTC business.

[D3ViL]

really sad to see another site going down like this, what i cannot understand is,they said the backdoor is planted long back and one fine morning they found that coins are missing.

[BitcoinEXpress]

What is the status on the hunt for the hacker who stole the coins? Has anyone provided info on the matter and claimed the bounty?

98.6% of people know that Paul Vernon did it, ergo nobody gets the bounty except Paul.

@Gleb

The hacker thief is known in the community as "The Owner".

Oddly enough seems to be the very same person that got Mt. Gox, Inputs.io, MCXNow, and a few others.

It's hard to prevent a hack by "The Owner"



 



~BCX~

[aardvark15]

The owner Paul Vernon claims that a bunch of coins were stolen via a hack.  So he can't give us our money (coins) back.  He says now that the coins were stolen over a year ago and he withheld this info and kept accepting deposits.  Of course we don't know for sure if he was hacked.  He may have just taken it all himself.  If there was a hacker, I haven't heard that there is any progress on finding out who it is.

[BitcoinEXpress]

The owner Paul Vernon claims that a bunch of coins were stolen via a hack.  So he can't give us our money (coins) back.  He says now that the coins were stolen over a year ago and he withheld this info and kept accepting deposits.  Of course we don't know for sure if he was hacked.  He may have just taken it all himself.  If there was a hacker, I haven't heard that there is any progress on finding out who it is.

I'm telling you, this is the work of "The Owner".


~BCX~

[ZorroPai]

Hi,

here is a article regarding Cryptsy:

Court Takes Control of Digital Currency Exchange Cryptsy: http://www.coindesk.com/cryptsy-assets-frozen-as-florida-court-appoints-receiver/

Does anybody know what to do to get some coins back?

Kind regards,
Zorro

[spazzdla]

Alas as the gov has now taken control there is a 100% chance we will never get anything they will take EVERYTHING from us depositors in the name of "justice" and sell them off for their profit.

The gov.. utter scum.

[wikenpp]

Alas as the gov has now taken control there is a 100% chance we will never get anything they will take EVERYTHING from us depositors in the name of "justice" and sell them off for their profit.

The gov.. utter scum.

As far as i know that money is gone. He (Paul) did take it. Sure he made some excuses but we all know how late it is.
Either write it off or wait for some group action suit.

[Fatanut]

The owner Paul Vernon claims that a bunch of coins were stolen via a hack.  So he can't give us our money (coins) back.  He says now that the coins were stolen over a year ago and he withheld this info and kept accepting deposits.  Of course we don't know for sure if he was hacked.  He may have just taken it all himself.  If there was a hacker, I haven't heard that there is any progress on finding out who it is.

I guess it's just another "I got hacked" scam. Most websites use this reason to runaway. Of course if you assume that it's true, then you will not be able to get your coins back. I wonder why would someone "withhold" that info as it's a big bad news to the users.

[ZorroPai]

Alas as the gov has now taken control there is a 100% chance we will never get anything they will take EVERYTHING from us depositors in the name of "justice" and sell them off for their profit.

The gov.. utter scum.

Hello Spazzdla,

I do not understand gov. Why do they not pay out the coins to the former owners?
They should be a model.

But you are right. They take everything they can.
There is no justice.

Kind Regards,
Zorro

[socks435]

The owner Paul Vernon claims that a bunch of coins were stolen via a hack.  So he can't give us our money (coins) back.  He says now that the coins were stolen over a year ago and he withheld this info and kept accepting deposits.  Of course we don't know for sure if he was hacked.  He may have just taken it all himself.  If there was a hacker, I haven't heard that there is any progress on finding out who it is.

I guess it's just another "I got hacked" scam. Most websites use this reason to runaway. Of course if you assume that it's true, then you will not be able to get your coins back. I wonder why would someone "withhold" that info as it's a big bad news to the users.

Yeah they dont want to involve in this problem any more if they cant say their site is hack.. they are just run your money and i know they are not telling the truth..

[Sandroxa]

Alas as the gov has now taken control there is a 100% chance we will never get anything they will take EVERYTHING from us depositors in the name of "justice" and sell them off for their profit.

The gov.. utter scum.

Hello Spazzdla,

I do not understand gov. Why do they not pay out the coins to the former owners?
They should be a model.

But you are right. They take everything they can.
There is no justice.

Kind Regards,
Zorro

Crypto is a heaven for scammers because scammers now they can get away with it. It's the way it has been going on for years.

[ZorroPai]

Alas as the gov has now taken control there is a 100% chance we will never get anything they will take EVERYTHING from us depositors in the name of "justice" and sell them off for their profit.

The gov.. utter scum.

Hello Spazzdla,

I do not understand gov. Why do they not pay out the coins to the former owners?
They should be a model.

But you are right. They take everything they can.
There is no justice.

Kind Regards,
Zorro

Crypto is a heaven for scammers because scammers now they can get away with it. It's the way it has been going on for years.

Hi Sandroxa,

yes government does it for years.
Government acts as a thief for years.
We do not have to accept this. It is not right.

They should check the owners of the coins and give the coins back to the rightful owners.

Why should they sell the coins, take the money and run?

Kind regards,
Zorro

[alyssa85]

Here's the latest update from the receiver:

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-cryptsy-subpoenas-ceo-missing/

The receiver, James D. Sallah, an attorney for Miami, Fla.-based Payton & Associates LLC, filed the report in the U.S. District Court Southern District of Florida.

The court appointed Sallah as receiver last month in response to an investor lawsuit and gave him control of Cryptsy’s assets, CCN reported.

Sallah confirmed in his report that investors do not have access to their Cryptsy accounts and that significant amounts of funds are missing and/or possibly locked in Cryptsy servers that he’s trying to access. He also confirmed that Cryptsy is no longer operating.

Sallah said he has not received any cooperation from Vernon. He demanded an accounting of the missing funds from Vernon in a letter, but has received no response. He said he has gained some cooperation from former Cryptsy employees.

He is trying to find all of the investors and determine what they are owed. He is also trying to find out which investors made money, how much, and when, as well as which received money back.

Sallah noted he has spoken with investors daily. He said he will try to determine how investors can be repaid what they are owed. If any investors improperly profited, he will try to see that the profits are returned and take legal action if necessary.

The receiver also said he will contact the landlord of the premises in Delray Beach where Cryptsy operated. He said there are presently no computers, furniture or equipment to secure unless it was relocated, which he will continue to investigate.

[BitcoinNational]

The owner Paul Vernon claims that a bunch of coins were stolen via a hack.  So he can't give us our money (coins) back.  He says now that the coins were stolen over a year ago and he withheld this info and kept accepting deposits.  Of course we don't know for sure if he was hacked.  He may have just taken it all himself.  If there was a hacker, I haven't heard that there is any progress on finding out who it is.

I'm telling you, this is the work of "The Owner".


~BCX~

i had to read it thrice to get the joke;

hacker also goes by "whip the servers"

[BTCMINER6579]

Is there way to get back the coins.
Almost 3btc plus was lost in Cryptsy ?

[HI-TEC99]

Is there way to get back the coins.
Almost 3btc plus was lost in Cryptsy ?

You can fill out the receiver's form at this link.

http://cryptsyreceivership.com/registration/

It's not exactly a claim form, it's for giving the receiver details of what funds you had on cryptsy.

[alyssa85]

Is there way to get back the coins.
Almost 3btc plus was lost in Cryptsy ?

You can fill out the receiver's form at this link.

http://cryptsyreceivership.com/registration/

It's not exactly a claim form, it's for giving the receiver details of what funds you had on cryptsy.

Thanks. Didn't realize that the receiver required you to make a claim. Thought they had all the details of the owners of the coins.

[HI-TEC99]

Is there way to get back the coins.
Almost 3btc plus was lost in Cryptsy ?

You can fill out the receiver's form at this link.

http://cryptsyreceivership.com/registration/

It's not exactly a claim form, it's for giving the receiver details of what funds you had on cryptsy.

Thanks. Didn't realize that the receiver required you to make a claim. Thought they had all the details of the owners of the coins.

Big vern wiped the cryptsy servers clean before he ran. The receiver has no details of who owns what to work with. You need evidence to convince him you held coins on cryptsy like screenshots, or emails.

[alyssa85]

Is there way to get back the coins.
Almost 3btc plus was lost in Cryptsy ?

You can fill out the receiver's form at this link.

http://cryptsyreceivership.com/registration/

It's not exactly a claim form, it's for giving the receiver details of what funds you had on cryptsy.

Thanks. Didn't realize that the receiver required you to make a claim. Thought they had all the details of the owners of the coins.

Big vern wiped the cryptsy servers clean before he ran. The receiver has no details of who owns what to work with. You need evidence to convince him you held coins on cryptsy like screenshots, or emails.

And if you didn't bother to keep emails about logins (which most people delete), you are stuffed?

[HI-TEC99]

Is there way to get back the coins.
Almost 3btc plus was lost in Cryptsy ?

You can fill out the receiver's form at this link.

http://cryptsyreceivership.com/registration/

It's not exactly a claim form, it's for giving the receiver details of what funds you had on cryptsy.

Thanks. Didn't realize that the receiver required you to make a claim. Thought they had all the details of the owners of the coins.

Big vern wiped the cryptsy servers clean before he ran. The receiver has no details of who owns what to work with. You need evidence to convince him you held coins on cryptsy like screenshots, or emails.

And if you didn't bother to keep emails about logins (which most people delete), you are stuffed?

In that case I assume you are stuffed. Perhaps someone else can think of other proof that would convince him, but I can't.

[memequiserle]

i think is case one year later
is coin can not get back again

cryptsy is same cryptsty.com, if same altcoin exchanger is die
and founder not open exchanger again, so is very imposible if coin can back again

[AdamCox9]

I hope I can get them back. I had about 2-3 bitcoins worth of a little of each currency on there. I'm sure they would be worth quite a bit now.

[rossrjensen]

I was just thinking about this.  I remember moving 4 Bitcoin over to trade on Cryptsy.  After the bubble popped and a lot of the speculative coins lost a lot of value I sort of stopped checking in on it. 

I really wish there was some way to recover these coins, it's a shame what happened with "Big Vern".  The 30 Litecoins I had on that exchange alone would be worth $9k by now.  I also happen to know Worldcoin, Fastcoin, Goldcoin, and several others that I had significant holdings in have made a pretty big comeback with all the recent coin mania.  The latest I saw is that some law firm is now going after Coinbase to recover funds for those that lost significantly in the Cryptsy debacle.  Coinbase has always been a good, secure, reliable service and that doesn't seem like something I want to be a part of.  I never really liked the "robbing Peter to pay Paul" idea.

I also had some holdings over in BTC-E when they got seized by the feds for a similar reason (robbing Peter to pay Paul, due to stolen Mt. Gox coins being exchanged on BTC-E) - though they have always been good to me and I believe they will ultimately pay back their loyal customers - now as Wex.  I was clearly too trusting of exchanges when I first got into this stuff, lots of hard lessons have been learned over these last few years.

[AdamCox9]

I don't even want to think about what my Cryptsy coins would be worth now upwards towards $100K . that is so much money for me

[rossrjensen]

I don't even want to think about what my Cryptsy coins would be worth now upwards towards $100K . that is so much money for me

I believe that would be the case for me too, maybe even more  

Oh well, I guess I could also think about every stock trade I sold prematurely or mistimed - or that I was too lazy to deposit that $50 check to buy Ripple when it was a small fraction of a cent (that small check would be worth about $20k to me now) or figure out how to actually obtain some Bitcoin when I first learned about it in 2010 (and wanted to invest).  There are a billion ways I could probably be rich - but there is only one reality, ha ha!

[Crypto-Maniac]

i dream to find 2 guys for break their legs with baseball bat until they give me my BTC back...

Wolong (the PandaCoin scam...) where we all lost money (a lot for me..) i know he his in Malaysia
& this mother fu**er of Paul Vernon,
if anyone have info from both guy i take them ....

[AdamCox9]

There are a billion ways I could probably be rich - but there is only one reality, ha ha!

So true. I always live in the poor person reality. Maybe subconsciously, I want to be not rich.

[Wattda]

Oh well, I guess I could also think about every stock trade I sold prematurely or mistimed - or that I was too lazy to deposit that $50 check to buy Ripple when it was a small fraction of a cent (that small check would be worth about $20k to me now) or figure out how to actually obtain some Bitcoin when I first learned about it in 2010 (and wanted to invest).  There are a billion ways I could probably be rich - but there is only one reality, ha ha!
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I have been thinking the same thing for years and it is driving me crazy ..., you are making sense my friend. I too back in 2010 thought about buying bitcoin and never investigated if I could actually buy the coins. Maybe I couldn't get them even if I wanted too?  Another thing, I also got into mining "apparently" I was late in that profit generating model too. Then I tried cloud mining and I think I broke even. I then thought maybe I should just buy and flip. I made a couple of hundred dollars on that one, but the stress was killing me. Ok back to reality there is no quick way/easy way to "make it on easy street" as my Grampa's last words to me were "work hard, don't spend more than you earn and save for a rainy day" I have been blessed with good health and loving Wife and a job that I enjoyed...... HEY I AM ALREADY ON EASY STREET!!!!!!!

[rossrjensen]

I have been thinking the same thing for years and it is driving me crazy ..., you are making sense my friend. I too back in 2010 thought about buying bitcoin and never investigated if I could actually buy the coins. Maybe I couldn't get them even if I wanted too?  Another thing, I also got into mining "apparently" I was late in that profit generating model too. Then I tried cloud mining and I think I broke even. I then thought maybe I should just buy and flip. I made a couple of hundred dollars on that one, but the stress was killing me. Ok back to reality there is no quick way/easy way to "make it on easy street" as my Grampa's last words to me were "work hard, don't spend more than you earn and save for a rainy day" I have been blessed with good health and loving Wife and a job that I enjoyed...... HEY I AM ALREADY ON EASY STREET!!!!!!!

I'm with you all the way.  Sounds like we've actually got life pretty good, all things considered!