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March 29, 2016, 02:18:53 PM
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one might say, in a way that is until someone is not
it's really what you think if you think that gambling is wrong if you think it is not and that's okay
I think trading can be regarded as a gamble. if you guess the price goes up or down for a short time or commonly called binary trading. I think it can be called as gambling and trading
I think it's still called gambling if you only guess and don't know about trading.
But, if you know about trading and can make a speculation from research or available data, it's trading.

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March 29, 2016, 02:27:04 PM
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one might say, in a way that is until someone is not
it's really what you think if you think that gambling is wrong if you think it is not and that's okay
I think trading can be regarded as a gamble. if you guess the price goes up or down for a short time or commonly called binary trading. I think it can be called as gambling and trading
Trading is not that worst, there is a higher chance that you can lose some money with gambling than with trading.
It is really good to trade and you can also get some profit of it later, and you dont even need some luck just have a good strategy.
To win in gambling you need to be really lucky and that happens not that often.
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March 29, 2016, 03:02:05 PM
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No of course not. Trading and gambling are two different things. With trading you trade something to get something else of the same value. In this situation you can't lose.
With gambling you are taking a risk buy putting in money in other to make more money, but you are not 100% sure if you will make money. 
I think you could have lost in trading there is no guarantee your predictions on the price of bitcoin is always right up or down. You also need a little luck so that your prediction could happen.
Your prediction must necessarily be based on skills and knowledge of the market trading is some bit different from gambling


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March 29, 2016, 03:30:17 PM
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yeah trading is cosider as gambling you dan't know when the price will have a growth or will have a drop so you risk your money if you are lucky you will win.
but sometime when you study the market so well you can predict if the price will go up next week or it will drop.
for me anythink that risk money on it is type of gambling.

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March 29, 2016, 03:40:09 PM
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yeah trading is cosider as gambling you dan't know when the price will have a growth or will have a drop so you risk your money if you are lucky you will win.
but sometime when you study the market so well you can predict if the price will go up next week or it will drop.
for me anythink that risk money on it is type of gambling.

Yes i agree with you, you don't know is your trade will increase or not. It's same like gambling though, you also don't know is your bet is lose or win, but you always want get profit.
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March 29, 2016, 03:44:19 PM
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Trading actually involve a deep study before you invest your money or put your possession into it. So for those people whom just listen to one or two articles and then go straight into trading for that stocks would be more like a gambling.

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March 29, 2016, 03:46:34 PM
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I would consider un-researched coin purchases and trading strictly on faith gambling...

However, If a trader is on top of breaking news and knows about what he is trading and how it is trending I consider it skilled investing not gambling.
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March 29, 2016, 04:12:33 PM
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I do not consider trading as gambling because with trading you will need not such a high amount of luck if you compare it with gambling its much higher luck you will need.
Overall the point is that gambling is all depending on luck and with trading this is not the point at all they only thing you need is a bit of luck and you can also see it coming, its more predictable that you will make profit at the end right ?

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March 29, 2016, 04:37:04 PM
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one might say, in a way that is until someone is not
it's really what you think if you think that gambling is wrong if you think it is not and that's okay
I think trading can be regarded as a gamble. if you guess the price goes up or down for a short time or commonly called binary trading. I think it can be called as gambling and trading
I think it's still called gambling if you only guess and don't know about trading.
But, if you know about trading and can make a speculation from research or available data, it's trading.

That's right. Blindly doing trades is a gamble. You don't have any clue about the market and you trade, only luck can save you there. But if you study the market and charts and make a calculated speculation where it is headed, then it is called trading.

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March 29, 2016, 05:46:34 PM
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Trading actually involve a deep study before you invest your money or put your possession into it. So for those people whom just listen to one or two articles and then go straight into trading for that stocks would be more like a gambling.
so true. I strongly agree with you. trading requires skill in analyzing the price will go up or down, it involves science, but sometimes it is a lot of people who play trading origin, and lost. so they call it the same as gambling just harder

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March 29, 2016, 06:09:26 PM
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For me  trading and gambling are difference. we know that the they are the same risky but gambling is more risky.. trading has a chance that the price will high. and high profit.. so gambling is high risky and you can lost everything you had..
Trading equals to low risk and high profit...


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March 29, 2016, 08:01:20 PM
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You would be gambling if they are being done randomly and just trading without indicators or any good analysis of the direction and size of the market, I have been in forex before and the random trading is a form of gambling in my opinion.
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March 29, 2016, 08:21:54 PM
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to be honest, i consider trading as pure gambling because in trading no strategies work and most probably you will end up losing

i remember i tried it once and i ended up in big loss without managing to make any decent money from it, now i dont do trading at all
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March 30, 2016, 04:48:15 AM
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Trading is another form of gambling cause your staking your money and have a big chance of wining or losing. But for me trading is best flat form of for us who want to earn All you need to do is patience and not so greedy.



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March 30, 2016, 06:40:23 AM
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I would consider un-researched coin purchases and trading strictly on faith gambling...

However, If a trader is on top of breaking news and knows about what he is trading and how it is trending I consider it skilled investing not gambling.

This is false. Trading news for retail clients is next to impossible or very hard to profit off for many reasons.

#1 reason is that there is a second or two delay before you get the numbers before the major firms get the numbers.

#2 reason is that there is huge slippage and illiquidity and im possible to get a good position when the numbers come out.

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March 30, 2016, 06:56:55 AM
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For me it's not trading and Gambling both are different. In trading i have hope atlst i may get some profit but in gambling no.
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March 30, 2016, 07:16:40 AM
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For me it's not trading and Gambling both are different. In trading i have hope atlst i may get some profit but in gambling no.
if you are talking about profit in trading and gambling. both are the same have a good advantage if you have a good strategy as well. just gambling depends on luck, even if you have a good strategy and it also depends on the type of gambling.


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March 30, 2016, 07:18:51 AM
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I think trading is not a gambling they are different trading is low risk and high profit if you are lucky to choose a great altcoin they can make lots of profit but its a long run before you can see the price is rising.. gambling - you should play your money first before you win or lose..
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March 30, 2016, 07:28:27 AM
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Yes, trading is a form of gambling, especially if one is speculating on futures.  Any situation where one makes decisions that involve a risk, a reward, and a factor of probability it can be considered gambling.  In fact, when one evaluates their terms with an insurance company, they would have to concede that their insurance premiums are a disguised form of gambling also.
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March 30, 2016, 10:43:43 AM
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Trading is not that worst to gamble, because you can see that many people are already losing some a lot of money with gambling and that can be really bad.
But you have to also be smart in gambling to make some profit otherwise you will lose to much money with it and that cant be good for you.
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