DASH scam exposed at the Satoshi Roundtable retreat!

[americanpegasus]

With the exception of those knowingly propagating the scam I don't think anyone "deserves to go down with the ship".  I want to rescue (through education) as many people as I can.

 
 
Unfortunately Mein Fuhrer just heard about the debacle and he is not pleased. 
 
http://captiongenerator.com/79795/Fuhrer-Hears-Report-on-Satoshi-Roundtable

[TPTB_need_war]

I was underwhelmed by fluffypony as a charismatic, visioned, inspired, killer-instinct leader. Hard worker I presume. Reasonably astute I presume. Perhaps smarter than what can be detected from that boring slapstick interview. Much fatter than I expected. But no Steve Jobs, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates type of personalty as far I can detect in the video.

His point about life & death is silly melodrama. Not business level thinking. Anyone who thinks posting this video is going to help Monero and hurt Dash, has been drinking too much.

Disappointed I didn't get to see smooth on video.

No offense fluffy. I am happy Monero is getting some attention. You've apparently worked hard. Perhaps the open source (no one is a superstar, many contributors) model will be the winner. I doubt it.

[Lebubar]

Ok,

what I see in this video : unprofesionalism and conflict of interest. This have no value, words words words since 2 years now, omg. So ridiculous.

[noobtrader]

Ok,

what I see in this video : unprofesionalism and conflict of interest. This have no value, words words words since 2 years now, omg. So ridiculous.

if i hold monero, i would sell and invest at some other coin atm.  its a perfect pump, soon there will be dump. 

[generalizethis]

With the exception of those knowingly propagating the scam I don't think anyone "deserves to go down with the ship".  I want to rescue (through education) as many people as I can.

 
 
Unfortunately Mein Fuhrer just heard about the debacle and he is not pleased. 
 
http://captiongenerator.com/79795/Fuhrer-Hears-Report-on-Satoshi-Roundtable

Such LOLZ! My favorite is the woman telling the other, "Don't worry, it's still under a dollar." And the general reaching for his phone. 

[busterzzz]

I was struck by how grossly overweight the participants in that interview were.  Gluttony is one of the seven deadly sins.

Who cares what bodyshape and weight someone has? Are you as sincer concerned about vitaliks health because he is rather slim? No offense that is how you sound.

Obviously the guys doing these interviews care because if you go to 24 minutes you will seem them saying shit about Evan Duffields hair color. Double standard bullcrap right there. And I'll agree with Stoat, dudes running this show should probably lay off the cheese cake.

[qwizzie]

to OP : is there a day when you dont think of Dash ? I bet you even have nightmares about Dash,
waking up in the middle of the night with cold sweat and all.....

I feel sorry for this altcoin discussion section forum that once again gets another Dash hate thread slapped in their faces,
this time from a less known troll acount but a troll account none the less.

Now what to do with this troll account ? oh wait, i just remember the fix .. it involves pressing a certain ignore button.
  



  

[ArticMine]

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Evan do you have the courage to be interviewed this weekend? The answer to this question will have a large impact on the credibility (or lack thereof) of the DASH project.
...

This is the crux of the issue. Will he step up to the plate during this weekend especially after fluffypony's comments. If he hides the credibility is lost.

[generalizethis]

Not a single piece of HARD-CORE evidence against DASH.

I'm still waiting for somebody to BREAK - DASH -

PROVE it does not work!!
but
You can't - either because you don't know HOW
or
It truly cannot be broken......

All talk and NO action(s) will get you NO WHERE!!!!!

20+ hour mix times are a fail.

Also, Evan himself has said off protocol anonymity (which is what dash currently employs) is weaker than protocol level anonymity, which is why protocol level anonymity is promised with the evolution release--though without peer review and with Evan's history of promising the moon, mars and the sun, I highly doubt he has the skillset to do any such thing. Weird that dash fanboys keep contradicting what the coin's creator only just now realized after months of criticism--that his masternode privacy scheme is inferior to protocol level solutions. Evan spent so much time preaching his false doctrine that his followers (at least those out of the loop) are caught believing the lie.

[TechorMarketing]

Update from the Florida Satoshi Roundtable:



Micheal Terpin is the PR guy that DASH hired.
https://dashtalk.org/threads/company-memo-we-just-fired-michael-terpin.7940/

[The Sceptical Chymist]

People will die if their shitcoin fails the anonymity test!   Won't someone think of the poor Arab children!  Is that the overbearing,  extremely exaggerated argument here?

[generalizethis]

People will die if their shitcoin fails the anonymity test!   Won't someone think of the poor Arab children!  Is that the overbearing,  extremely exaggerated argument here?

Our friends are now saying DASH is going to kill people?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1379833.0

Apparently has issues with DASH marketing.....make what you will of what he said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKd7F-10lxM&feature=youtu.be&t=1522

EDIT: oh, apparently the arrogant guy slurring on the video is fluffy.

fluffypony was not spreading FUD. He speaks the truth.  Evan is welcome to be interviewed by Bitcoin Uncensored to address these concerns and answer some technical questions.

Something tells me that Evan will not be interested in being interviewed by someone who will ask difficult questions. Lets see if Evan proves me wrong and makes his community proud.

Evan do you have the courage to be interviewed this weekend?

Ceti's The Pharmacist has always been contextually challenged. In the context of someone believing Dash's claims of anonymity, using it, and then having their ID revealed to an authoritarian government, yes they very well could be killed. Ceti's a moron if he thinks Ric said that using Dash in and of itself will kill you--though my guess is he is trying to spin it however he can, even if it makes himself look like a fool.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

There's no altcoin yet that has cost someone their life, and you are attributing an importance to cryptocurrency that it does not deserve, sir.  Yours is an extremely inflated claim.

[slapper]

Well they kissed and made up. Sell your stocks bitchez

[americanpegasus]

There's no altcoin yet that has cost someone their life, and you are attributing an importance to cryptocurrency that it does not deserve, sir.  Yours is an extremely inflated claim.

That's like saying that the Internet never cost anyone their life back in 1992.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

There's no altcoin yet that has cost someone their life, and you are attributing an importance to cryptocurrency that it does not deserve, sir.  Yours is an extremely inflated claim.

That's like saying that the Internet never cost anyone their life back in 1992.

Says you.  But I don't think crypto is going to have anywhere near the importance of the internet.  And if those poor endangered Arabs need anonymity in their currency for some reason there is always fiat.  What is it you think these people are risking their lives to finance?

[TPTB_need_war]

Fluffy looks less fat here, appears he is big boned and wider than tall. Spagni so he is of Italian descent?

Evan looks younger in that photo than in the Evolution presentation. There is no doubt he comes across as an amiable person which is why initially I did not desire to put great effort into criticizing Dash's technology when it was first launched. I had even commented that he was very amiable. But haven't we all learned by now what a wolf in sheepskin is.

When Evan gives up the instant mine and masternode control, then we can conclude he has turned over a new leaf.

I noted fluffy stated he wasn't against the masternode conceptually as long as the barrier to entry wasn't so high. Well if he meant deposits which basically boils down to PoS, then apparently fluffy doesn't understand block chain security very in depth.

I must admit I am jealous of these guys youthful age, good health, and thus able to get drunk. I absolutely can't drink any more (fatty liver disease) and I am not healthy enough to enjoy life normally.

I was thinking when watching the video what it used to be like when I could waste time and energy on frivolous slapstick (although perhaps one could argue the camaraderie is useful for building synergies on projects, although I never found that to be true BEFORE open source at least). Really put in perspective what a shit life I have now. I fight for each morsel of production and energy. I can't waste, yet I do on this forum. I need to hang a mirror on the wall in front of me. I look so damn thin and unathletic in the pics I took today compared to January 2015. Embarrassing.

[slapper]

When Evan gives up the instant mine and masternode control, then we can conclude he has turned over a new leaf.

No, I have said it before and will say it again, the biggest problem was the emission cut from 84 million to 21 million. That was the biggest cheating and I remember Evan posting in the thread that "whales will not support unless we cut emission". Now we know that otoh was one of the many who called the cards.

Later with the masternode scheme mining rewards were cut even further, so less pressure on the market to keep prices artificially high.

Bad crypto has been discussed ad nauseam. They call it anonymous while proudly displaying the amounts held in wallets, the transfer amounts etc. All you see is brain crippled morons asking to "deanonymize" (which also might very well happen if it is worth it and it's not). I feel really bad for the newbies who get sucked into this scam by conniving cunts like toknormal, quizzie and the likes. I just don't have the energy to fight, I would know I used to be in DRK before real anon crypto came.

Giving up the instamine is never going to fix it.

[americanpegasus]

I was thinking when watching the video what it used to be like when I could waste time and energy on frivolous slapstick (although perhaps one could argue the camaraderie is useful for building synergies on projects, although I never found that to be true BEFORE open source at least). Really put in perspective what a shit life I have now. I fight for each morsel of production and energy. I can't waste, yet I do on this forum. I need to hang a mirror on the wall in front of me. I look so damn thin and unathletic in the pics I took today compared to January 2015. Embarrassing.

As Gordon Gecko said, the most precious asset isn't money.  It's time.  
  
Save your money and try to live another 15 years.  You may see biological/transhumanist immortality yet.  
  
If you cannot, rest easy knowing you have been a productive cell in the vaster universe, and enjoy a little time with the new VR toys.  Maybe consider freezing yourself with Alcor or another cryonics company if you can afford it.  
  

Says you.  But I don't think crypto is going to have anywhere near the importance of the internet.  And if those poor endangered Arabs need anonymity in their currency for some reason there is always fiat.  What is it you think these people are risking their lives to finance?

 
 
The real truth is that blockchains are going to have a much greater impact than the internet but philistines like you are too small-minded to see it yet.  Give it some time and you'll understand.

[americanpegasus]

Giving up the instamine is never going to fix it.

The whole thing has gone a lot further than it should, and everyone in Dash who understands its days are limited, yet persists in fostering the illusion, is negligent and immoral.  
  
What must happen is Dash's market cap must collapse and be absorbed by Monero.  It won't be pretty, and a lot of people who just honestly tried to be part of the cutting edge of crypto are going to get burned *bad*.  This will almost certainly be the humble little guys because the major holders will collaborate to liquidate first.  The Dash peasants will see the price start to drop, and assume it will 'come back'.  But it won't - not this time. By the time they finally figure out they've been had, Evan will have to go into hiding because his former supporters will be calling for his head and many genuine and talented people will be turned off of crypto for years.  
  
If Evan really feels bad about what he's done, he should liquidate his entire Dash holdings into XMR, offer to personally exchange the Monero he buys for Dash, then come on record and publicly support Monero from here on out.  It's going to be bloody and messy, but it will be the most honest thing he can do at this point.  Perhaps also we should start a Monero assistance fund for the inevitable Dash refugees.  Some people were genuinely interested in anonymous and fungible crypto, and ended up on the wrong side of the ocean through circumstances that were not their fault.  I pledge 100 XMR to such a fund, if one ever exists.