DASH scam exposed at the Satoshi Roundtable retreat!

[monsterer]

/facepalm because anon solves a problem right? A war over the war over anon sending of funds, anyone ever take a step back and realize just how stupid this monero/dash thing really is? Legit non criminal anon sending of funds...seems silly unless using for criminal endeavors.

Until you find yourself being extorted because you own a large amount of currency.

[TechorMarketing]

/facepalm because anon solves a problem right? A war over the war over anon sending of funds, anyone ever take a step back and realize just how stupid this monero/dash thing really is? Legit non criminal anon sending of funds...seems silly unless using for criminal endeavors.

Until you find yourself being extorted because you own a large amount of currency.

Privacy is important to all people, including honest law abiding citizens:
www.npr.org/2015/01/23/377716623/why-should-we-care-about-keeping-secrets

Speaking of criminals, which list do you think contains more enticing targets to attempt to extort?
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dash/#!rich
http://moneroblocks.info/richlist

Take a look at both block explorers above and answer honestly.

[generalizethis]

/facepalm because anon solves a problem right? A war over the war over anon sending of funds, anyone ever take a step back and realize just how stupid this monero/dash thing really is? Legit non criminal anon sending of funds...seems silly unless using for criminal endeavors.

The US government once offered an encryption chip to businesses that was secure except that the US government had the keys--they're argument was that you could remain encrypted from corporate spies, but it would allow the government to check for illegality.

No one used it.

Why?

If I'm a military contractor, do I trust that those with the keys aren't in collusion with the US government? If I'm wealthy and support a particular candidate for senate, do I trust that if the candidate who wins is the candidate-I-backed's opponent, that he or she won't use those keys to undermine my business or create policy's that undermine my business? In general, no one should trust their government has their best interest at heart financially or otherwise (sometimes it's not in their interest to do so). Implied government trust shows an incredible lack of foresight, imagination and what history has pointed out over and over and over and over "absolute power corrupts absolutely," and if information is power, I'm guarding mine with my life, because I like being empowered and not being a slave.

"Legit non criminal anon sending of funds...seems silly unless using for criminal endeavors" besides showing an absurd trust that hackers or others won't use this information, also shows an implicit trust that the government keeping tabs on your information can mandate itself from never doing you or any good citizen harm with that information--which is absurd since every election cycle re-determines who a good citizen is. It's is laughable that anyone could make this guarantee when governments are showing by the very action of gathering more and more information that they intend to use it--why grab it if you aren't going to use it? And my guess is that they will use it to market and control people who say things like, "Legit non criminal anon sending of funds...seems silly unless using for criminal endeavors."

/sigh.

Also, for anyone who doesn't take future possible threats seriously or thinks history doesn't repeat itself, see "operation chokepoint" for a current example of a government using financial controls to try to punish behavior (or even eliminate it) without making it illegal.

[rangedriver]

Btw, all my tests came back negative, including HIV, Hepa C, Hepa B, blood culture, urine culture, and prostate cancer enzyme.

Also my gastroenteritis doc further pointed out that the pain I am experiencing just inside the lowest right rib is not due to the fatty liver, but rather my stomach.

You still need to get tested for candida, cholesterol and testosterone.

I still stand with my conviction that it's mold poisioning, most likely from the combination of air conditioners and building damp.

Thus, I bet you any money in the world your cholesterol is elevated and your testosterone is very low.

Candida is often a by-product of mycotoxicosis as it pertains to the same family (molds, yeasts, fungi).

Months on antibiotics would have allowed the gut flora to turn fungal, hence the white tongue.

Liver can be detoxed fairly easy with an olive oil flush, and also milk thistle.

[TPTB_need_war]

Don't feel the troll stoat. Put him on Ignore.

Btw, all my tests came back negative, including HIV, Hepa C, Hepa B, blood culture, urine culture, and prostate cancer enzyme.

Also my gastroenteritis doc further pointed out that the pain I am experiencing just inside the lowest right rib is not due to the fatty liver, but rather my stomach.

You still need to get tested for candida, cholesterol and testosterone.

I doubt Metabolic Analysis Profile (Organic Acids) nor comprehensive digestive stool analysis (CDSA) tests are available in Davao. What other test for candida?

I still stand with my conviction that it's mold poisioning, most likely from the combination of air conditioners and building damp.

Thus, I bet you any money in the world your cholesterol is elevated and your testosterone is very low.

Candida is often a by-product of mycotoxicosis as it pertains to the same family (molds, yeasts, fungi).

Months on antibiotics would have allowed the gut flora to turn fungal, hence the white tongue.

I am never bloated nor gassy. I don't have stomach cramps. I have a very focused pain, that feels like a soreness at the lowest right rib.

How to treat? I tried all these natural crap cures and all they did was fuck me up worse:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maura-henninger-nd/five-steps-to-treating-ca_b_4810659.html

I am doing better past 3 days by eating tuna, fruit, oatmeal, and vegetables. They say don't eat fruit, but the fruit seems to make me feel better (in moderation) so far.

[americanpegasus]

Can you go live somewhere else for a month or two? 

[rangedriver]

How to treat?

It really can only be a case of carrying on with the diagnostics. You can't treat something if you don't know what it is.

If you can't test for Candida, at the very least get cholesterol and testosterone bloods done. This is often a cheap indicator in respect of mold toxicity (and Lyme disease) and in any event should be a handy bit of evidence in a general sense.

Another cheap and easy test is C-Reactive protein which is a general inflammatory marker.

Also, AmericanPegasus's advice of getting away for a few months is right on the money - definitely something you should consider if you're able to. You might find that everything falls into place once you get out of your current working/living environment.

In the meantime though definitely get cholesterol and testosterone checked if you're able to.

[stoat]

Don't feel the troll stoat. Put him on Ignore.

Btw, all my tests came back negative, including HIV, Hepa C, Hepa B, blood culture, urine culture, and prostate cancer enzyme.

Also my gastroenteritis doc further pointed out that the pain I am experiencing just inside the lowest right rib is not due to the fatty liver, but rather my stomach.

You still need to get tested for candida, cholesterol and testosterone.

I doubt Metabolic Analysis Profile (Organic Acids) nor comprehensive digestive stool analysis (CDSA) tests are available in Davao. What other test for candida?

I still stand with my conviction that it's mold poisioning, most likely from the combination of air conditioners and building damp.

Thus, I bet you any money in the world your cholesterol is elevated and your testosterone is very low.

Candida is often a by-product of mycotoxicosis as it pertains to the same family (molds, yeasts, fungi).

Months on antibiotics would have allowed the gut flora to turn fungal, hence the white tongue.

I am never bloated nor gassy. I don't have stomach cramps. I have a very focused pain, that feels like a soreness at the lowest right rib.

How to treat? I tried all these natural crap cures and all they did was fuck me up worse:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maura-henninger-nd/five-steps-to-treating-ca_b_4810659.html

I am doing better past 3 days by eating tuna, fruit, oatmeal, and vegetables. They say don't eat fruit, but the fruit seems to make me feel better (in moderation) so far.

I'll stop sticking these pins in this efigy of you I made if you cease FUDing ETH

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I am thinking my Hepatitis C test will be positive. That makes the most sense with the symptoms I have now. And I am actually hoping that is the result, because there are 4 month treatment cures for Hepatitis C now (just in the past year or so become available), but one problems is the treatments cost ~ $85,000 and I don't have that much money, and even if I had health insurance (which I don't), they wouldn't pay for it until my liver reaches cirrhosis. But I did read one of the treatment regimens is available for example in Egypt for $300 per month.

TPTB, if your Hep C test is positive try and come to Australia. New funding for Hep C treatment literally starts TODAY. Australia has universal health care, so once inside the medical system you're genrally not hounded by bean counters, you just need to get 'inside' the system as a foreigner.

Idea: get a travel visa with TOP health insurance cover, come to OZ, go to hospital and present with your symptoms, get diagnosed, get Hep C treatment, get cured, code your coin (or join monero), change the world.

http://www.hepatitisaustralia.com/newsarticles/hepatitis-c-treatment-coming-to-pbs/23/2/2016

Good luck!!

It sounds like you have few options, the worst of which would be to wait until liver cirrhosis. I hope you can get treated quickly at a price you can afford so the level of focus and productivity you had in the past returns.

You have a lot of supporters here. Good luck!

TPTB, you might want to look into help from Gilead, the pharmaceutical company.  They might provide free drug for those who have no insurance--a lot of other companies do for other drugs.  You'll have to see what the results of your test are.  What are your symptoms if you don't mind my asking?

Bought some Dash today, don't regret it but goddamn.  Should have bought ETH for the short-term gain.  

Edit:  Read too fast.  Glad your tests are negative.  You sound like you're a bit of a hypochondriac, maybe?  Good to know it's not hep. 

[TPTB_need_war]

How to treat?

It really can only be a case of carrying on with the diagnostics. You can't treat something if you don't know what it is.

If you can't test for Candida, at the very least get cholesterol and testosterone bloods done. This is often a cheap indicator in respect of mold toxicity (and Lyme disease) and in any event should be a handy bit of evidence in a general sense.

Another cheap and easy test is C-Reactive protein which is a general inflammatory marker.

Also, AmericanPegasus's advice of getting away for a few months is right on the money - definitely something you should consider if you're able to. You might find that everything falls into place once you get out of your current working/living environment.

In the meantime though definitely get cholesterol and testosterone checked if you're able to.

Thanks. I changed my working environment to open air with a newly installed ceiling fan.

Sorry for the noise in this thread. I will get more tests.

I am not hypochondriac, as these are real debilitating effects (or at least have been ... see recent changes). Throughout my life I would say nothing and just fight my way through ailments.

But again how to treat the candida/mold? I guess diet and change of venue? I had told my gf, I really should relocate to a colder, drier climate. But I don't think I can afford to relocate to Australia right now for a vacation (but I will check into it). The other problem is my gf can't get a visa to go with me.  

Also it is very expensive to eat in Australia. I remember the prices are very high there, even much higher than the USA. I could return to the USA, but again a major financial dislocation as there are no relatives that will offer me a place to stay (not even my mother). Also my car and my current set up (computers, etc) are all here where I am. Very disruptive.

Going to Australia for medical tests/treatment may be plausible given kennyP's suggestion. But as far as ongoing treatment and staying there, that is less plausible at this juncture. But maybe even just getting away from a while might be helpful (and get some more medical tests), but I only have about $15,000 and then I am completely bankrupted. So I am in a very precarious financial state. Best would be to work and produce first, but that is what I had been trying to do with very limited coding productivity/continuity due to the illness.

The radical change in diet that past few days (no rice at all!) is causing some changes, but I can't yet access if these changes are sufficient. I am now completely off the supplements and able to function the past few days just with diet. I am still waking up after only 5 hours of sleep, but now I eat oatmeal and bit of tuna and then I fall asleep again by 4am to fill out my 8 - 9 hours sleep. This has been the pattern the past 3 days. Also the discoloration at my abdomen has become intermittent and also the pain would come and go. Also yesterday for my gf's bday at the beach, I was acting more normally such as acting like a silly young guy dancing, doing pullups, and I even took at jog up the mountain on Samal island. But the stomach pain returned after the jog but then it faded then came back again when I was hungry and then faded again after the sashi dinner. We will start tuna + vegetable soups today. Want to get away from eating canned (or fried) tuna during the day. So what I am saying is several things have been changed, so I want to see first what is the result of these changes.

Note from Googling low testosterone I see that even plastic bottle and cans can leech BPA and other EAs into food and water causing estrogen effects. Given the chinese dominate the Philippines economy and given the shenanigans they've been known to do (such as fumigating rice that is rancid so they can sell it), and given I buy distilled water in plastic bottles, and given the rental home has fiberboard ceilings, etc... it is possible for some environmental factors. I am trying to switch my food to entirely farm fresh, no frying. And no rice, no bread. But the oatmeal has so much insoluble fiber, I need some source of more soluble fiber thus the fruit.

Note that the lymph nodes at my throat act as though I am sick and I get a drip into my throat when ever I am feeling some disseminated inflammatory response all over my body (effects such as numbed lower legs, slight ache at the back of my head).

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Well damn it, you're correct and I should have held on to the meager 8 ETH I had a few weeks ago.  I had a sell order in for 0.02 and canceled it and blah blah blah.  That's what I get for being stupid. 

Bought more Dash, though.  Still looking for an actual place to spend it.

[generalizethis]

Well damn it, you're correct and I should have held on to the meager 8 ETH I had a few weeks ago.  I had a sell order in for 0.02 and canceled it and blah blah blah.  That's what I get for being stupid.  

Bought more Dash, though.  Still looking for an actual place to spend it.

I think Evan has a soda machine he drags around with him, but it may take a few plane rides. If you're lucky, the dash stripper will be there too!

[TPTB_need_war]

rangedriver, today I started adding boiled red kidney beans (24 hour soaking) to my diet in addition to oatmeal, steamed vegetables, and fresh tuna (soup and raw sashmi). No oil, no rice, no sugars, no bread. So I will complete cut out all carbos that aren't loaded with fiber. I will also moderate my fruit intake. Let's see if that will starve any pathogens/fungi in my body.

On this diet, I feel the inside of abdomen is an inferno, yet it is cold to the touch. Something is going on. And I have continued to be alert today. Sort of difficult to concentrate with this hot sensation inside my body, but isn't painful (not burning just feels very hot inside), just annoying or distracting.

[dEBRUYNE]

rangedriver, today I started adding boiled red kidney beans (24 hour soaking) to my diet in addition to oatmeal, steamed vegetables, and fresh tuna (soup and raw sashmi). No oil, no rice, no sugars, no bread. So I will complete cut out all carbos that aren't loaded with fiber. I will also moderate my fruit intake. Let's see if that will starve any pathogens/fungi in my body.

On this diet, I feel the inside of abdomen is an inferno, yet it is cold to the touch. Something is going on. And I have continued to be alert today. Sort of difficult to concentrate with this hot sensation inside my body, but isn't painful (not burning just feels very hot inside), just annoying or distracting.

This list might interest you, basically products that have a really high fiber ratio, no sugar and also fairly rich in protein:

http://greatist.com/health/surprising-high-fiber-foods

I'd recommend the first five or so.

[rangedriver]

rangedriver, today I started adding boiled red kidney beans (24 hour soaking) to my diet in addition to oatmeal, steamed vegetables, and fresh tuna (soup and raw sashmi). No oil, no rice, no sugars, no bread. So I will complete cut out all carbos that aren't loaded with fiber. I will also moderate my fruit intake. Let's see if that will starve any pathogens/fungi in my body.

On this diet, I feel the inside of abdomen is an inferno, yet it is cold to the touch. Something is going on. And I have continued to be alert today. Sort of difficult to concentrate with this hot sensation inside my body, but isn't painful (not burning just feels very hot inside), just annoying or distracting.

Another thing you might want to add is probiotic yoghurt as this will help rebuild the gut flora in your favor. The only way to kill candida is sugar starvation but it should be fairly easy to do.

However, mold mycotoxicosis is different from candida. If it transpires its mycotoxicosis then its almost certainly a consequence of your living environment - and that's going to be a challenge to defeat.

Tests will say for sure. If elevated cholesterol and low testosterone then you can narrow it down with these further bloods:-

http://parkridgemultimed.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Mold-Toxicity1.pdf

[qwizzie]

i cant help but admire how you guys managed to get this thread so far away in off-topic cyberspace that it will be extremely difficult to get it back on topic.
oh hell, i might as well join this off topic direction by answerring below question of The Pharmacist :

Well damn it, you're correct and I should have held on to the meager 8 ETH I had a few weeks ago.  I had a sell order in for 0.02 and canceled it and blah blah blah.  That's what I get for being stupid.  

Bought more Dash, though.  Still looking for an actual place to spend it.

https://dashtalk.org/threads/merchant-directory-listing-updated-feb-2016.3445/
https://dashtalk.org/forums/merchant-directory.46/


http://qwizzie.1apps.com/dash-merchants/


If anyone reading this is supporting Dash as payment option and want to have his/her service added to the Dash Merchant Directory Listing or have it placed on the Dash Merchant Map then please
post your request in here : https://dashtalk.org/threads/merchant-directory-listing-updated-feb-2016.3445/

thank you for reading this ...

edit : oh my, look at that Dash price rise  

[NextGenCrypto]

You know, since this topic already exists I'll just post it here:  When a major bug was found in the SDC implementation, the Monero community opened their arms and doors to any from the Shadowcash camp that chose to come join us.  Math is not an opinion, and we are not here to compete for ego size.  Our ultimate goal is to unite the efforts of everyone under a solitary banner.
 
No former Dash supporters will be mocked or ridiculed when the time comes for them to switch over.  This is not some one-chance choice.  They got involved with Dash because they thought it was private digital cash.  Some may have been mislead, but there is a lot of talent in the Dash universe.  The Cryptonote universe, especially the Monero community welcomes these individuals whole-heartedly. 
 
We are an honest and fair currency that aims to achieve what once was though to be impossible: truly private decentralized digital money.  I know the topic title here might ruffle some feathers, and I apologize on behalf of some of our eager colleagues.  But I think if you will stop thinking of us as competition, the choice will become quite clear:  There will come a time when every single Dash supporter has to defect to Monero, and those who do so soonest stand to benefit the most.  Fortunately the price has been held down significantly in the past 6 months... so consider this an early Christmas gift:  Monero now is under $1 USD and we welcome all talents and new members into the community. 
 
If you were a former Dash supporter, you are that no longer.  You are one of us, entrenched in the Monero camp and smiling at the grand future that awaits.  You'll look back on this moment in the 2020's and thank yourself. 
 
Welcome to our family.
 

Another moronic XMR post from this shill.

Get a life moron, nobody gives two shits about your shitcoin shilling.

[boolberry]

You know, since this topic already exists I'll just post it here:  When a major bug was found in the SDC implementation, the Monero community opened their arms and doors to any from the Shadowcash camp that chose to come join us.  Math is not an opinion, and we are not here to compete for ego size.  Our ultimate goal is to unite the efforts of everyone under a solitary banner.
  
No former Dash supporters will be mocked or ridiculed when the time comes for them to switch over.  This is not some one-chance choice.  They got involved with Dash because they thought it was private digital cash.  Some may have been mislead, but there is a lot of talent in the Dash universe.  The Cryptonote universe, especially the Monero community welcomes these individuals whole-heartedly.  
  
We are an honest and fair currency that aims to achieve what once was though to be impossible: truly private decentralized digital money.  I know the topic title here might ruffle some feathers, and I apologize on behalf of some of our eager colleagues.  But I think if you will stop thinking of us as competition, the choice will become quite clear:  There will come a time when every single Dash supporter has to defect to Monero, and those who do so soonest stand to benefit the most.  Fortunately the price has been held down significantly in the past 6 months... so consider this an early Christmas gift:  Monero now is under $1 USD and we welcome all talents and new members into the community.  
  
If you were a former Dash supporter, you are that no longer.  You are one of us, entrenched in the Monero camp and smiling at the grand future that awaits.  You'll look back on this moment in the 2020's and thank yourself.  
  
Welcome to our family.

It is nice to see the family growing and our adopted DASH siblings welcomed. I agree with everything you wrote above (except for the sub $1 USD XMR prices which are now behind us).

Welcome former DASH users! Together we can do great things

[Spoetnik]

Our friends are now saying DASH is going to kill people?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1379833.0

Apparently has issues with DASH marketing.....make what you will of what he said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKd7F-10lxM&feature=youtu.be&t=1522

EDIT: oh, apparently the arrogant guy slurring on the video is fluffy.

fluffypony was not spreading FUD. He speaks the truth.  Evan is welcome to be interviewed by Bitcoin Uncensored to address these concerns and answer some technical questions.

Something tells me that Evan will not be interested in being interviewed by someone who will ask difficult questions. Lets see if Evan proves me wrong and makes his community proud.

Evan do you have the courage to be interviewed this weekend?

Ceti's always been contextually challenged. In the context of someone believing Dash's claims of anonymity, using it, and then having their ID revealed to an authoritarian government, yes they very well could be killed. Ceti's a moron if he thinks Ric said that using Dash in and of itself will kill you--though my guess is he is trying to spin it however he can, even if it makes himself look like a fool.

..and YOU have been dominated by ME ENDLESSLY failing trying to defend Monero.
If i put together a highlight reel it would be simply hilarious.
You have a hell of a lot of fucking god damn nerve considering the sheer stupidity you post here non stop
ALL OF IT defending Monero.
You don't talk about anything else.

Don't believe me people ?
Just check this idiots post history.
He's made a career out of hanging out here shoving his own foot in his mouth.
As soon as i see this guys name i start laughing.. what a fucking clown.

[Spoetnik]

DASH appears to be in big trouble and has close to zero support from the technically competent participants of the Satoshi Roundtable retreat. Education is the best way to prevent more people from being hurt by DASH.

Evan the charlatan exposed:
https://youtu.be/PKd7F-10lxM?t=1522
https://youtu.be/PKd7F-10lxM?t=6519

Fluffypony speaks the truth.  Evan is welcome to be interviewed by Bitcoin Uncensored to address these concerns and answer some technical questions. Bitcoin Uncensored asked fluffypony difficult question about Monero on both this and on a previous episode of their show. fluffypony did not run from the truth. He answered some difficult questions:
https://soundcloud.com/bitcoinuncensored/e20-christmas-poo-122215#t=59:46

Something tells me that Evan will not be interested in being interviewed by someone who will ask difficult questions. Lets see if Evan proves me wrong and makes his community proud.

Evan do you have the courage to be interviewed this weekend? The answer to this question will have a large impact on the credibility (or lack thereof) of the DASH project.



Micheal Terpin is the PR guy that DASH hired.
https://dashtalk.org/threads/company-memo-we-just-fired-michael-terpin.7940/

Feel free to share your opinion about the legitimacy of DASH privacy claims and its future by voting here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1369389.msg13944409#msg13944409

Jr.

You a liar and full of shit.

I seen the headline so i checked out what you posted.
NO PROOF + weak accusations.

If anything you highlighted problems with Monero ..congrats your shit topic here had the opposite effect  

What did you post ?
Some *meaningless* meeting of shit coin pushers got together and Dash guys were not there ?
Uhhmm so what ?
Where is this scam proof ?

You post a challenge to a guy from Dash to address some concerns with giving him the chance yet..
So in advance of that you are saying Dash is a scam ?

hey " Jr. "
Stay in school.. your are fucking stupid.

EDIT:
By the way all of you..
I never have nor will i ever own 1 single Dash coin.
I don't give two shits about the project either.
What i do care about is the TRUTH.
Something sorely lacking around here.. with all you sleazy deceitful greedy shit coin peddlers.
So no don't even try and accuse me of being a Dash supporter.
And yeah at times i have criticized them and even had comments of mine deleted from their ANN for bashing them.