remove investor-based games

[Holdaaja]

But if they are very clear about how it works I don't see why it is worse than any other gambling.

Please click on the green text in my sig and try to understand why it is not about you or your money, it is about your lack of concern for how you profit, even if that profit is derived from money stolen from other people.

BTW, please don't try claiming that *everyone* who participates does so knowing fully what they are participating in. That is an assumption I have already disproven by way of the pm's I have received from people who genuinely didn't understand what a ponzi was after sending money to one.

There are people from all over the world using this forum. They don't always understand what they are reading, so you can't guarantee that all participants are willingly losing their money.

This goes with simple dice gambling too.
I have seen many times people in this forum thinking primedice is rigged when they get 5 lose streak with 50% win change.
But of course it isn't their fault that someone who is bad with math plays their game thinking martinagle is invincible.

Here is 93 pages of people wondering if martinagle works or not.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=610339.0

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[justspare]

If you are stupid enough to gamble or invest in a ponzi, it is completely your fault. We aren't gonna remove investor-based games just so people stop losing their money.

[Avirunes]

many people lose money in hyip program, are you agree if sub forum investor-based game removed ?

Well there are still some users who love to invest in those hyip.Hyip is just like gambling so there is nothing bad in it.However there are many users who gets profit from investor-based games even if one scams out as they have some nice profits from the previous ponzis.

At the moment warning in that board is enougj to warn users.But still if users weep out after reading it and losing in hyip's , then its their fault.

[Zeke2345]

The warning is enough of a deterrent the extra trust tag is uncalled for and a bully tactic.
Its ironic that it is done by people with green trust as they usually state the trust has no bearing ignoring or glossing over it does not let people do any business in any form without people being hesitant. They can not join a signature campaign and even if you are against signatures,you have to recognize people are going to be less helpful if they where gone. That would erode the environment here and leave the chosen few,maybe thats the plan.
If you spread the issue to the forum and not just this investor based sub forum it looks like a agenda to keep the shop closed and gang tactic any new face that wants to set up a new business. Its bad enough that people hijack ideas and railroad others to make a profit but thats life.
Let live..After all if this was a real issue the owner of the forum would cancel the section with little discussion needed. Its there for a reason.

[Emerge]

Can't the investor based games be just what it is and have the FORUM say it's a ponzi that having pretentious DT members spam their negs?

[cryptodevil]

Can't the investor based games be just what it is and have the FORUM say it's a ponzi that having pretentious DT members spam their negs?

Is it our pretentiousness that bothers you or the fact our action is having a strong effect on the scammers and those who wish to help them scam in return for a share in the loot?

The IBG section is what it is and will continue to be what it is, a place where ponzi scam threads live and a place where members of the forum community have decided that participation is collaboration and your intention to seek profit from theft should be communicated to other members who may encounter you.

It isn't complicated.

[Makingsure]

alot of you guys say these members such as cryptodevil take it too far but i would have to counter that you all don't take it serious enough
this is the biggest btc forum in the world, new members join everyday, im sure of it
there is no official policing, and therefore it takes the trust system and the members of DT TO BE THE POLICE HERE
they don't have to either, remember theres no financial gain for them, so it's really just out of caring for an overall healthier forum that i think they do it.
you can look at those boards and add the tens of btc lost by newbies everyday, anyone with a heart that would piss right off (me included i have no easy words for any scams of any sort)
in MY perfect forum world there would not be this board, but they also would not spam "legit" gambling boards, they would not be here at all
this would be a board of intellectual discussion, project discussion, marketplace, and such, mature shit, none of the crap there at all haha ;p
but that's my look at it so suck it up guys SOMEONE needs to police these boards
and bottom line is what has been said;
if you participate at all prepare to get tagged, as even "money you made" is STOLEN from others, making you no better
just don't go there , its not hard, look at my profile prob not ONE visit to that board haha (man i love my shitcoins tho ;p)

addition;  i think its funny so many of you think people like mexxer  cryptodevil  gleb,and suchmoon as such assholes
if they were such asses would they spend their time helping this noobie communities ass out so much?
no , they would be like veterns vegas , bobsurplus or spots, spend their time scamming you instead
grow a fricken brain
jesus, people will even cry when you help them around here....

[swogerino]

People who are too stupid to perceive the risks shouldn't keep their money anyway. They're the ones that keep the scammers going, so we're not losing anything. They navigated from the gambling section to the investor-based games section.

[Iseecookies]

Can I set up a live cam craps game in investor games or is this shady as well?

I know no one was thinking of it and I was thinking maybe I pay some people to set up webcams for this on the street.
Maybe we might catch a shooting or fight but things should work out as long the cams keep rolling. Once I establish a system I hope people will come in under my affiliate system and build a pyramid underneath me. Kind of like how I did it with herion.