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January 24, 2013, 04:34:14 PM
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A while ago, I was helping a guy out accepting a money transfer then paying a hosting provider. I received the money order then paid the guys hosting who informed me that he was breaking their TOS. But I had already sent the wire transfer (we both have chase so I just sent it from my account) and the wire is non reversible. Now low and behold davide is emailing me months later telling me that it was never received and I need a scammer tag. Well, since he accused me here is the scam accusation of myself and my side of the story.

From what I was told by a developer, this method of paying for hosting is commonly used by people who plan to spam or create illegal services. That way it cannot be directly traced back to them, but instead to me the person who made the payment. He says I could make the payment for him to avoid issues with delays and restrictions on his country paying to my country but most likely he just didnt want his name tied to it.

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January 24, 2013, 04:47:10 PM
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A while ago, I was helping a guy out accepting a money transfer then paying a hosting provider. I received the money order then paid the guys hosting who informed me that he was breaking their TOS. But I had already sent the wire transfer (we both have chase so I just sent it from my account) and the wire is non reversible. Now low and behold davide is emailing me months later telling me that it was never received and I need a scammer tag. Well, since he accused me here is the scam accusation of myself and my side of the story.

From what I was told by a developer, this method of paying for hosting is commonly used by people who plan to spam or create illegal services. That way it cannot be directly traced back to them, but instead to me the person who made the payment. He says I could make the payment for him to avoid issues with delays, but most likely he just didnt want his name tied to it.

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I'm "davide".

I was never told before this post that i would broke the TOS of webnx.com, the hosting provider that asks to pay the first time only by wire for new customers. From the second payment, they accept credit card. In fact, i asked the hosting provider if it was ok for them to me to pay via another person (i told them i would give my money to a third part in america that would route the money to their bank account). The only goal of this was that i needed the server up and running as soon as possible. One or two week, the time required for a wire sent from Italy to the US, was way too much. I ended up using realiablesite.com that offered me a great deal and you can ask them if they had problems with me hosting child porn, a thing that jasinlee keep threatening me like if do it. I'm not sure if he wrote it in the first post too or only in the mail we exchanged. I really don't want to bother reading it another time.

I waited months for jasinlee here to provide me with a proof that he paid the (around) 500/700$ i had to wire to webnx, but he never sent me nothing. Today a story of a friend of mine url: (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135387.0) that got scammed 700€ made me remember of this event of my life and made me hungry about being so stupid to think that maybe he hadn't scammed me. So i tried to contact him and asked about a proof of payment, but i received nothing more that threats and finally this thread accusing me.

I staid in touch with webnx even a couple of weeks after he sent the wire, but their financial department confirmed me that they never received the money he should had sent.

If he sent the money to the wrong account, that is possible, he should have them back by now (4 months elapsed).

So, resuming the wall of text, i'm treated like if i was the scammer from the OP here, that won't prove me that he did the payment to the hosting provider whom confirms me they never received anything from him.

Someone must have my money.

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btw: since that i asked every other day to webnx about the status of my payment they ended up believing that i was trying to scam them and stated that they don't want to do any business with me anymore no matter what. So threated as a scammer from the hosting provider, jasinlee and the scammer that tried to scam me before him (i was again treated like if i was the spammer, url: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=105099.0).
So for me it was a double fail, lost my money and the deal for the server (it was a really great deal).

I really don't have a lot of time to lose arguing here, i just want my money back or a proof that he did send it to webnx and that i will to go after webnx.

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February 04, 2013, 09:52:27 PM
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So, jasinlee, where is the money?

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February 04, 2013, 10:09:35 PM
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A while ago, I was helping a guy out accepting a money transfer then paying a hosting provider. I received the money order then paid the guys hosting who informed me that he was breaking their TOS. But I had already sent the wire transfer (we both have chase so I just sent it from my account) and the wire is non reversible. Now low and behold davide is emailing me months later telling me that it was never received and I need a scammer tag. Well, since he accused me here is the scam accusation of myself and my side of the story.

From what I was told by a developer, this method of paying for hosting is commonly used by people who plan to spam or create illegal services. That way it cannot be directly traced back to them, but instead to me the person who made the payment. He says I could make the payment for him to avoid issues with delays and restrictions on his country paying to my country but most likely he just didnt want his name tied to it.

If you actually paid you should have proof such as a receipt.

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February 05, 2013, 01:18:58 AM
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A while ago, I was helping a guy out accepting a money transfer then paying a hosting provider. I received the money order then paid the guys hosting who informed me that he was breaking their TOS. But I had already sent the wire transfer (we both have chase so I just sent it from my account) and the wire is non reversible. Now low and behold davide is emailing me months later telling me that it was never received and I need a scammer tag. Well, since he accused me here is the scam accusation of myself and my side of the story.

From what I was told by a developer, this method of paying for hosting is commonly used by people who plan to spam or create illegal services. That way it cannot be directly traced back to them, but instead to me the person who made the payment. He says I could make the payment for him to avoid issues with delays and restrictions on his country paying to my country but most likely he just didnt want his name tied to it.

If you actually paid you should have proof such as a receipt.

I sent the money, then sent him the confirmation number. If he goes digging in his email he will find it.

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February 05, 2013, 02:01:01 AM
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A while ago, I was helping a guy out accepting a money transfer then paying a hosting provider. I received the money order then paid the guys hosting who informed me that he was breaking their TOS. But I had already sent the wire transfer (we both have chase so I just sent it from my account) and the wire is non reversible. Now low and behold davide is emailing me months later telling me that it was never received and I need a scammer tag. Well, since he accused me here is the scam accusation of myself and my side of the story.

From what I was told by a developer, this method of paying for hosting is commonly used by people who plan to spam or create illegal services. That way it cannot be directly traced back to them, but instead to me the person who made the payment. He says I could make the payment for him to avoid issues with delays and restrictions on his country paying to my country but most likely he just didnt want his name tied to it.

If you actually paid you should have proof such as a receipt.

I sent the money, then sent him the confirmation number. If he goes digging in his email he will find it.
Can you provide screenshots in both cases?

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February 05, 2013, 02:43:24 AM
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I will look for it, I am sure its in my email somewhere if I didnt delete it. I seem to recall emailing theymos or another mod about this potential scam also although I cannot recall when it was. I will check my pms also maybe its in there. I do not understand the reasoning of him coming back after 5 months and saying oh yeah you remember that time you did this service for me and now after X amount of time I feel as if you did me wrong. Feels like a shakedown to me and to be honest it was semi expected considering the warnings I got from some of the developers about doing this for him in the first place right after I sent the money.

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February 05, 2013, 05:56:38 AM
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Here is his confirmation email with the "confirmation number": (?)



And yet, again, i run business on the web from the age of 15, but i'm the scammer because i wanted jasinlee to setup a server i would have used for pedo stuff. Just ask webnx if they ever setted up a server for me, or what:


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February 05, 2013, 02:55:07 PM
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For the record, jasinlee sent me a screenshot (of his Chase account) with the confirmation from Chase that he has sent $469 via Chase QuickPay on 09/06/2012, with the message as 'hosting', and a Payment Transaction number. Did Webnx.com refund you if they've refused you the server?

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February 05, 2013, 03:05:22 PM
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For the record, jasinlee sent me a screenshot (of his Chase account) with the confirmation from Chase that he has sent $469 via Chase QuickPay on 09/06/2012, with the message as 'hosting', and a Payment Transaction number. Did Webnx.com refund you if they've refused you the server?
They deny that they ever received the money.
Maybe it was webnx?
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February 05, 2013, 03:28:07 PM
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For the record, jasinlee sent me a screenshot (of his Chase account) with the confirmation from Chase that he has sent $469 via Chase QuickPay on 09/06/2012, with the message as 'hosting', and a Payment Transaction number. Did Webnx.com refund you if they've refused you the server?
They deny that they ever received the money.
Maybe it was webnx?
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If that's so, jasinlee could probably get an official receipt or statement from the bank confirming the sent funds, and present webnx with it. It could be webnx's side as both of you have presented quite good claims on the matter.

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February 05, 2013, 04:09:19 PM
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If that's so, jasinlee could probably get an official receipt or statement from the bank confirming the sent funds, and present webnx with it. It could be webnx's side as both of you have presented quite good claims on the matter.

Did the screen shot include that the payment was picked up?
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February 05, 2013, 04:13:35 PM
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It says it was accepted, yes it does.

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February 05, 2013, 04:16:32 PM
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If that's so, jasinlee could probably get an official receipt or statement from the bank confirming the sent funds, and present webnx with it. It could be webnx's side as both of you have presented quite good claims on the matter.

Did the screen shot include that the payment was picked up?

The first sentence:
'We wanted to let you know that your payment to WEBNX(accounts@webnx.com) was accepted.

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February 06, 2013, 04:58:12 AM
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How is nobody pointing out the guy was trying host child porn??? That seems to be most important part of this???

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February 06, 2013, 05:59:09 AM
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How is nobody pointing out the guy was trying host child porn??? That seems to be most important part of this???
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February 06, 2013, 06:23:34 AM
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How is nobody pointing out the guy was trying host child porn??? That seems to be most important part of this???
6th post... Can i have you banned please?

Perhaps you should edit this post? You can't blame people for not siding with you when you (hopefully accidentally) semi admit to being a pedophile.

And yet, again, i run business on the web from the age of 15, but i'm the scammer because i wanted jasinlee to setup a server i would have used for pedo stuff. Just ask webnx if they ever setted up a server for me, or what:

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February 06, 2013, 06:32:01 AM
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I was being ironic. The sense of the post was: I run business on the web from the age of 15, but of course I'm a pedophile. Now, pedophile gets caught from the police, correct? I'm much older than 15 and have no problems with the law, and I pay my taxes. So how can I be a pedophile? It was a term made up to discredit me from the conversation and hey, it wokrked.

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February 06, 2013, 06:39:04 AM
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I want to know why you need someone else to wire money to pay for your hosting? That is the shadiest thing EVER... You could promise me anything to get me to do that. Also I like how he keeps throwing around, that he has run businesses on the web since 15 LOL yea cause you were really running a web business at 15, lets get real.

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February 06, 2013, 06:42:11 AM
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Do you want to see a pic of my bank account? Or maybe a pic of me visiting the google hq las September is enought?
Fuck you off everyone, I was scammed and I get threated like shit. No, worse, like a pedophile.

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