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There is a huge difference: $0.88 on Bloombit $1.21 on OpenLedger $3.70 on Yobit I would say it safe to assume Yobit does not give us much insight into the possible price; market maker(s) just having some fun on there. I said "much higher" regarding the price. I wasn't trying to deceive. Maybe instead of just looking at the price, what about perceived safety of trading there? That might be a part of things. I won't touch Bloombit and am unfamiliar with OpenLedger. What about volume and how much of it is real (across the board.) We don't really know. I can't easily read the volume on Bloombit, but in general the volume doesn't seem huge anywhere. Not saying the price is accurate, but we don't know what is really going on here. Is it market makers or people from the the actual ICO's? I guess we will find out soon enough. There does seem to be a lot of Hype with LISK... Sorry, I didn't mean to suggest you were trying to deceive. You make some good points regarding trustability and there is certainly a lot of hype. I'm sticking with my 'up to $0.50' prediction for now, but happy to be wrong. If LISK is at .50, that would be a huge success. I can't imagine people are buying LISK on Yobit and not any on the other two exchanges as why not just hedge their bets?
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BTC = Black Swan. BTC = Antifragile - "Some things benefit from shocks; they thrive and grow when exposed to volatility, randomness, disorder, and stressors and love adventure, risk, and uncertainty. Robust is not the opposite of fragile.
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May 21, 2016, 03:51:48 PM |
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I'm laughing at the people who would sell for $0.50 BTC on standby. I expect FUD threads from early sellers as they attempt to vindicate their terrible decisions. They will be left behind. No tears for them.
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May 21, 2016, 04:42:26 PM |
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I have 1 btc in LISK. At the end of the ICO and adding the 10% bonus due that would have been 6,519.20....from that final figure.
They just gave the bonus. It is not 10% it is 7.3 %. I asked others it is more or less all getting 7% from end of ICO...amounts they were given.
So did they have some new money come in after the ICO ended or something. Seems fishy as hell.
Whatever only 1 BTC we will see. But I talked to guys with 15 BTC in Lisk an it was the same ratio (at the 10% bonus mark anyway)
so anyway price speculation wise...it is kinda like i'm off to the races with more then 1/4 of the 'bonus' going poof.... not the kinda news
you want tossed about before launch in 3 days imho.
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10% of 5500 lisk (aprox value of 1 btc of lisk at ico price) soooo 10% is 1k coins from 5500 lisk? Interesting...... my original ICO amount after it closed is 6519.20 lisk WITH 10% bonus....so w/o the 10% supposed bonus it WAS 5867.28 Lisk BUT the bonus paid out was 6,039 or about 7.36% for a 'bonus' Again seems "fishy' we will see what 'launch' does in 3 days. But seems NOT to match the figures I was given by the site as the amount of lisk I should have at the end of the ICO. ...so that was short from the amount x 10% ie 7.3% in reality bonus and seems to 'correspond' with others ..this is not a 'fluke' with my account again seems kinda 'off' to put it mildly just tossing it out there.....I only have 1 BTC in this..so it is NOT such a big deal....but the 'silence about it is deafening" by the lisk team That's because you're applying the bonus the wrong way. You need to apply it to the BTC, then divide it by the average Lisk ICo price: 1 BTC +10% bonus = 1.1 BTC 1.1 BTC * Exchange rate: 0.0001821238671 BTC/LISK = 6039.XXX LSK The amount stated before was just an estimate. https://blog.lisk.io/ico-bonuses-are-now-applied-to-your-exchanges-8b50e0adf9e5#.rjv2a71w7 https://blog.lisk.io/lisk-ico-statistics-ac36fbb94fe3#.wjdj7f2fsJust using the figures they gave me at the ICO ending.....10% bonus SHOULD work either way if it is a 10% bonus on LISK I had at ICO ending amount in lisk (just saying math is math) But I will go with your facts that it was just an 'estimate' thou it was not presented that way 'at the time' and I DID ask ..was told was final figure. again just wanted SOME kind of explanation.......will withhold judgement..... people have already talked about it. Almost everyone calculated it exactly like you did, including myself. Everyone is satisfied with the answer provided by the lisk team. That is the reason nobody is complaining.
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May 21, 2016, 05:17:23 PM |
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I have 1 btc in LISK. At the end of the ICO and adding the 10% bonus due that would have been 6,519.20....from that final figure.
They just gave the bonus. It is not 10% it is 7.3 %. I asked others it is more or less all getting 7% from end of ICO...amounts they were given.
So did they have some new money come in after the ICO ended or something. Seems fishy as hell.
Whatever only 1 BTC we will see. But I talked to guys with 15 BTC in Lisk an it was the same ratio (at the 10% bonus mark anyway)
so anyway price speculation wise...it is kinda like i'm off to the races with more then 1/4 of the 'bonus' going poof.... not the kinda news
you want tossed about before launch in 3 days imho.
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10% of 5500 lisk (aprox value of 1 btc of lisk at ico price) soooo 10% is 1k coins from 5500 lisk? Interesting...... my original ICO amount after it closed is 6519.20 lisk WITH 10% bonus....so w/o the 10% supposed bonus it WAS 5867.28 Lisk BUT the bonus paid out was 6,039 or about 7.36% for a 'bonus' Again seems "fishy' we will see what 'launch' does in 3 days. But seems NOT to match the figures I was given by the site as the amount of lisk I should have at the end of the ICO. ...so that was short from the amount x 10% ie 7.3% in reality bonus and seems to 'correspond' with others ..this is not a 'fluke' with my account again seems kinda 'off' to put it mildly just tossing it out there.....I only have 1 BTC in this..so it is NOT such a big deal....but the 'silence about it is deafening" by the lisk team That's because you're applying the bonus the wrong way. You need to apply it to the BTC, then divide it by the average Lisk ICo price: 1 BTC +10% bonus = 1.1 BTC 1.1 BTC * Exchange rate: 0.0001821238671 BTC/LISK = 6039.XXX LSK The amount stated before was just an estimate. https://blog.lisk.io/ico-bonuses-are-now-applied-to-your-exchanges-8b50e0adf9e5#.rjv2a71w7 https://blog.lisk.io/lisk-ico-statistics-ac36fbb94fe3#.wjdj7f2fsJust using the figures they gave me at the ICO ending.....10% bonus SHOULD work either way if it is a 10% bonus on LISK I had at ICO ending amount in lisk (just saying math is math) But I will go with your facts that it was just an 'estimate' thou it was not presented that way 'at the time' and I DID ask ..was told was final figure. again just wanted SOME kind of explanation.......will withhold judgement..... people have already talked about it. Almost everyone calculated it exactly like you did, including myself. Everyone is satisfied with the answer provided by the lisk team. That is the reason nobody is complaining. How is it possible that list is over four dollars
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mistercashking
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May 21, 2016, 07:50:55 PM |
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I have 1 btc in LISK. At the end of the ICO and adding the 10% bonus due that would have been 6,519.20....from that final figure.
They just gave the bonus. It is not 10% it is 7.3 %. I asked others it is more or less all getting 7% from end of ICO...amounts they were given.
So did they have some new money come in after the ICO ended or something. Seems fishy as hell.
Whatever only 1 BTC we will see. But I talked to guys with 15 BTC in Lisk an it was the same ratio (at the 10% bonus mark anyway)
so anyway price speculation wise...it is kinda like i'm off to the races with more then 1/4 of the 'bonus' going poof.... not the kinda news
you want tossed about before launch in 3 days imho.
later
10% of 5500 lisk (aprox value of 1 btc of lisk at ico price) soooo 10% is 1k coins from 5500 lisk? Interesting...... my original ICO amount after it closed is 6519.20 lisk WITH 10% bonus....so w/o the 10% supposed bonus it WAS 5867.28 Lisk BUT the bonus paid out was 6,039 or about 7.36% for a 'bonus' Again seems "fishy' we will see what 'launch' does in 3 days. But seems NOT to match the figures I was given by the site as the amount of lisk I should have at the end of the ICO. ...so that was short from the amount x 10% ie 7.3% in reality bonus and seems to 'correspond' with others ..this is not a 'fluke' with my account again seems kinda 'off' to put it mildly just tossing it out there.....I only have 1 BTC in this..so it is NOT such a big deal....but the 'silence about it is deafening" by the lisk team That's because you're applying the bonus the wrong way. You need to apply it to the BTC, then divide it by the average Lisk ICo price: 1 BTC +10% bonus = 1.1 BTC 1.1 BTC * Exchange rate: 0.0001821238671 BTC/LISK = 6039.XXX LSK The amount stated before was just an estimate. https://blog.lisk.io/ico-bonuses-are-now-applied-to-your-exchanges-8b50e0adf9e5#.rjv2a71w7 https://blog.lisk.io/lisk-ico-statistics-ac36fbb94fe3#.wjdj7f2fsJust using the figures they gave me at the ICO ending.....10% bonus SHOULD work either way if it is a 10% bonus on LISK I had at ICO ending amount in lisk (just saying math is math) But I will go with your facts that it was just an 'estimate' thou it was not presented that way 'at the time' and I DID ask ..was told was final figure. again just wanted SOME kind of explanation.......will withhold judgement..... people have already talked about it. Almost everyone calculated it exactly like you did, including myself. Everyone is satisfied with the answer provided by the lisk team. That is the reason nobody is complaining. How is it possible that list is over four dollars Because it's the best altcoin ever made.
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May 21, 2016, 07:55:09 PM |
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Price should dump after launch. Same marketcap like XCR is realistic. Don't get fooled by Yobit devs pumping their IOUs.
Why should anyone buy LISK above IPO price?
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May 21, 2016, 07:57:34 PM |
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Price should dump after launch. Same marketcap like XCR is realistic. Don't get fooled by Yobit devs pumping their IOUs.
Why should anyone buy LISK above IPO price?
follow your leader or else
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Stealthcoin, Ark and Safemoon my life 3 investment failures while bashing Ethereum at 0.20cent. Bye bye
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May 21, 2016, 07:59:40 PM |
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LISK 1000X ICO GO GO
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CryptoCoinWareHouse
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May 21, 2016, 08:22:07 PM |
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When on the 24th time is it going to start trading AND are we going to be able to transfer it to exchange before trading
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May 21, 2016, 08:38:11 PM |
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I'm laughing at the people who would sell for $0.50 BTC on standby. I expect FUD threads from early sellers as they attempt to vindicate their terrible decisions. They will be left behind. No tears for them. Oh yes, there is no way price will go under $1 , it is just a question what dollar increment if we are talking $2 or $5
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May 21, 2016, 09:06:50 PM |
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Wowie...Bloombit's very-thin-orderbook price is up too: someone ate through almost all the extant sell orders. As I write, there's only one sell order at 0.01 for only 0.3 IOU-Lisk. Other than that teeny order, the sellbook is empty.
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May 21, 2016, 09:41:44 PM |
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I'm laughing at the people who would sell for $0.50 BTC on standby. I expect FUD threads from early sellers as they attempt to vindicate their terrible decisions. They will be left behind. No tears for them. Oh yes, there is no way price will go under $1 , it is just a question what dollar increment if we are talking $2 or $5 Initial reception is hard to predict, especially on low liquidity. My guess is a few exchanges will list Lisk right off the bat. It will either plunge or skyrocket there. However, as established exchanges like Poloniex start adding it, it will become more stable.
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May 22, 2016, 02:38:38 AM |
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I have 1 btc in LISK. At the end of the ICO and adding the 10% bonus due that would have been 6,519.20....from that final figure.
They just gave the bonus. It is not 10% it is 7.3 %. I asked others it is more or less all getting 7% from end of ICO...amounts they were given.
So did they have some new money come in after the ICO ended or something. Seems fishy as hell.
Whatever only 1 BTC we will see. But I talked to guys with 15 BTC in Lisk an it was the same ratio (at the 10% bonus mark anyway)
so anyway price speculation wise...it is kinda like i'm off to the races with more then 1/4 of the 'bonus' going poof.... not the kinda news
you want tossed about before launch in 3 days imho.
later
10% of 5500 lisk (aprox value of 1 btc of lisk at ico price) soooo 10% is 1k coins from 5500 lisk? Interesting...... my original ICO amount after it closed is 6519.20 lisk WITH 10% bonus....so w/o the 10% supposed bonus it WAS 5867.28 Lisk BUT the bonus paid out was 6,039 or about 7.36% for a 'bonus' Again seems "fishy' we will see what 'launch' does in 3 days. But seems NOT to match the figures I was given by the site as the amount of lisk I should have at the end of the ICO. ...so that was short from the amount x 10% ie 7.3% in reality bonus and seems to 'correspond' with others ..this is not a 'fluke' with my account again seems kinda 'off' to put it mildly just tossing it out there.....I only have 1 BTC in this..so it is NOT such a big deal....but the 'silence about it is deafening" by the lisk team That's because you're applying the bonus the wrong way. You need to apply it to the BTC, then divide it by the average Lisk ICo price: 1 BTC +10% bonus = 1.1 BTC 1.1 BTC * Exchange rate: 0.0001821238671 BTC/LISK = 6039.XXX LSK The amount stated before was just an estimate. https://blog.lisk.io/ico-bonuses-are-now-applied-to-your-exchanges-8b50e0adf9e5#.rjv2a71w7 https://blog.lisk.io/lisk-ico-statistics-ac36fbb94fe3#.wjdj7f2fsJust using the figures they gave me at the ICO ending.....10% bonus SHOULD work either way if it is a 10% bonus on LISK I had at ICO ending amount in lisk (just saying math is math) But I will go with your facts that it was just an 'estimate' thou it was not presented that way 'at the time' and I DID ask ..was told was final figure. again just wanted SOME kind of explanation.......will withhold judgement..... people have already talked about it. Almost everyone calculated it exactly like you did, including myself. Everyone is satisfied with the answer provided by the lisk team. That is the reason nobody is complaining. How is it possible that list is over four dollars Because it's the best altcoin ever made. no doubt about that
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May 22, 2016, 05:52:23 AM |
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I'm laughing at the people who would sell for $0.50 BTC on standby. I expect FUD threads from early sellers as they attempt to vindicate their terrible decisions. They will be left behind. No tears for them. Oh yes, there is no way price will go under $1 , it is just a question what dollar increment if we are talking $2 or $5 Initial reception is hard to predict, especially on low liquidity. My guess is a few exchanges will list Lisk right off the bat. It will either plunge or skyrocket there. However, as established exchanges like Poloniex start adding it, it will become more stable. Well I THOUGHT that because you could BUY in the LISK ICO with Shapeshift that they would have it from the get go. Perhaps I assumed wrong
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ruletheworld
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May 22, 2016, 09:11:49 AM |
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I'm laughing at the people who would sell for $0.50 BTC on standby. I expect FUD threads from early sellers as they attempt to vindicate their terrible decisions. They will be left behind. No tears for them. Oh yes, there is no way price will go under $1 , it is just a question what dollar increment if we are talking $2 or $5 Initial reception is hard to predict, especially on low liquidity. My guess is a few exchanges will list Lisk right off the bat. It will either plunge or skyrocket there. However, as established exchanges like Poloniex start adding it, it will become more stable. Well I THOUGHT that because you could BUY in the LISK ICO with Shapeshift that they would have it from the get go. Perhaps I assumed wrong Nope that isn't true. The reason they had Shapeshift in the ICO was to allow to buy LISK with other cryptocurrencies instead of Bitcoin. Since the ICO coins are just IOUs and not real tokens, they don't need to be on any exchange. Once the 'real' coin gets released, they need to be listed on an exchange, and shapeshift won't work without the largest exchanges either.
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May 22, 2016, 01:28:58 PM |
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I'm laughing at the people who would sell for $0.50
BTC on standby. I know what you mean. I actually stuck my neck out and bought 500 Bloombit IOU-Lisk for ~0.86 BTC. Holdin 'em 'til launch!
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May 22, 2016, 01:32:15 PM |
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Initial reception is hard to predict, especially on low liquidity. My guess is a few exchanges will list Lisk right off the bat. It will either plunge or skyrocket there. However, as established exchanges like Poloniex start adding it, it will become more stable.
If the clime is right, Lisk will skyrocket after it's listed on Polo. I saw exactly that when Synero & one other was listed there. But as for what'll happen on launch, I don't know either. I hope it'll jump up, but that's an iffy hope. How many ICO buyers are HODLers? How many of them are going to dump so as to get on board the Waves train before it shuts its doors on May 1? Who knows...
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May 22, 2016, 03:35:04 PM |
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All those predicting $2-$5 ranges per LISK should buy some
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May 22, 2016, 04:16:26 PM |
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I think it's is interesting to read the summary of the yesterday meeting : - https://blog.lisk.io/lisk-community-meeting-summary-649874444faa#.qp7a92bbzthis part : Question by fanyanjun: Which exchange can buy? Question by arnaud1: Is there some news about OKcoin, or poloniex?
Max: I can’t make any statements regarding exchanges. Unfortunately, today you won’t get any information about that. Please wait for launch and the exchanges announcements. Question by lux-1: Will you get to the poloniex soon?
Max: Due to my NDAs I can’t talk about exchanges.
other interesting questions in the summary.
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