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April 13, 2016, 01:11:50 PM
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OK for all those that don't quite get bonus I'm going to simplify it :

You invest 1 BTC on first day with 20% bonus and let's for the purpose of this calculation say 1 BTC = 10000 WAVES

First day 20% bonus you would get 1.2BTC equivalent of WAVES = 12000 WAVES
Second day and till the end of 10% bonus you would get with 1.1BTC equivalent of WAVES = 11000 WAVES
No bonus with 1 BTC would be same so 1 BTC = 10000 WAVES

So those investing the same 1 BTC later when there is no bonus will get less waves than those that invested yesterday for 20% or 10% that starts today.

Nope...

There's 85M Waves for the ICO.

So the first 24 hours everyone gets the 20% bonus, right?

Let's say 4000 BTC got brought in, that's 21,500 Waves per BTC.
But there can't be a 20% bonus yet, because you would need 102M Waves to do that, but there's only 85M available.

Imagine someone putting 50,000 BTC in at the 10% phase? ...

Only in the end of the ICO you can calculate / know your real bonus.
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April 13, 2016, 01:12:39 PM
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20% bonus is already in the accounts .I think is on the fly ,Y/N?

Yes bonus is being added on the fly.

Can you explain how this is calculated? I mightbe wrong, but isn't the 85 milion waves just being equally devided between the people who participate? How can investors in the first 24 hours get a 20% bigger share? There aren't more waves available in the first 24 hours right? If 85 milion is 100% and there aren't more waves one can never get 120% or 102 milion waves. Do investors after the 24 hour mark get a less than equal share per invested btc than the people who did invest in the first 24 hours?
I'm really, really curious about your calculation.

I'm not 100% sure but this is what I think is happening.  Dev's please correct me if I'm wrong.  For example.  Someone buys 1btc of waves, with the 20% bonus, they will receive a 1.2btc.  For today, people who buy will get 1.1btc and so on.  Make sense?

Not really hard to calculate since you know the amount invested after 24 hours, and total.

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April 13, 2016, 01:13:04 PM
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20% bonus is already in the accounts .I think is on the fly ,Y/N?

Yes bonus is being added on the fly.

Can you explain how this is calculated? I mightbe wrong, but isn't the 85 milion waves just being equally devided between the people who participate? How can investors in the first 24 hours get a 20% bigger share? There aren't more waves available in the first 24 hours right? If 85 milion is 100% and there aren't more waves one can never get 120% or 102 milion waves. Do investors after the 24 hour mark get a less than equal share per invested btc than the people who did invest in the first 24 hours?
I'm really, really curious about your calculation.

If you invested let's say 1 BTC you would get 1.2 BTC equivalent of waves

Think about this:

The first 24 hours, everyone who bought got a 20% bonus (or 1.2 BTC equivalent of waves).
Ehm...
Impossible, because they cancel each other out.

So there is no way to calculate your bonus right now, only in the end when every BTC is in.

its on the fly.The bonus is already in u account.When you see a reduction IS FOR THE TOTAL AMOUNT (( BUY+ BONUS ))
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April 13, 2016, 01:13:48 PM
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I tried joining the Facebook group 4 or so days ago, but the request is still pending. Is that supposed to happen?
Is there a group? I thought they only have a page for waves platform.

It's wavesplatform. It has a join button.
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April 13, 2016, 01:14:04 PM
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20% bonus is already in the accounts .I think is on the fly ,Y/N?

Yes bonus is being added on the fly.

Can you explain how this is calculated? I mightbe wrong, but isn't the 85 milion waves just being equally devided between the people who participate? How can investors in the first 24 hours get a 20% bigger share? There aren't more waves available in the first 24 hours right? If 85 milion is 100% and there aren't more waves one can never get 120% or 102 milion waves. Do investors after the 24 hour mark get a less than equal share per invested btc than the people who did invest in the first 24 hours?
I'm really, really curious about your calculation.

If you invested let's say 1 BTC you would get 1.2 BTC equivalent of waves

Think about this:

The first 24 hours, everyone who bought got a 20% bonus (or 1.2 BTC equivalent of waves).
Ehm...
Impossible, because they cancel each other out.

So there is no way to calculate your bonus right now, only in the end when every BTC is in.

its on the fly.The bonus is already in u account.When you see a reduction IS FOR THE TOTAL AMOUNT (( BUY+ BONUS ))

No, because you can't calculate 20% bonus for an unknown amount. Jezus, math people.

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April 13, 2016, 01:15:03 PM
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Is the bonus already added to the wallet or is that something for after the sale?

Bonuse are being added on the fly.

No they aren't. Math doesn't work that way.

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April 13, 2016, 01:16:07 PM
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Is the bonus already added to the wallet or is that something for after the sale?

Bonuse are being added on the fly.

No they aren't. Math doesn't work that way.

The only thing we know for sure: the amount of Waves in your ICO account decreases on the fly  Grin
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April 13, 2016, 01:16:42 PM
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BLESSED R THE POOR IN SPIRIT!
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April 13, 2016, 01:18:31 PM
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well i dont see how you can make money with investing in the ICO. its still open for 48 days. Everyone which wants to buy, will be able to get it.

It might be hard to imagine, but I am certain that a lot of people will not hear about/be willing to buy waves until after its launch. The initial price is ultimately determined by the ico-investors so as long as nobody sells for less than they paid you will make money.
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April 13, 2016, 01:18:59 PM
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OK for all those that don't quite get bonus I'm going to simplify it :

You invest 1 BTC on first day with 20% bonus and let's for the purpose of this calculation say 1 BTC = 10000 WAVES

First day 20% bonus you would get 1.2BTC equivalent of WAVES = 12000 WAVES
Second day and till the end of 10% bonus you would get with 1.1BTC equivalent of WAVES = 11000 WAVES
No bonus with 1 BTC would be same so 1 BTC = 10000 WAVES

So those investing the same 1 BTC later when there is no bonus will get less waves than those that invested yesterday for 20% or 10% that starts today.

Nope...

There's 85M Waves for the ICO.

So the first 24 hours everyone gets the 20% bonus, right?

Let's say 4000 BTC got brought in, that's 21,500 Waves per BTC.
But there can't be a 20% bonus yet, because you would need 102M Waves to do that, but there's only 85M available.

Imagine someone putting 50,000 BTC in at the 10% phase? ...

Only in the end of the ICO you can calculate / know your real bonus.

Yeah you are correct I just simplified it ICO won't end today else your calculation would stand - you will still get 20% more waves at the end of the ICO than those that will invest last day, but we won't know exact numbers till this closes.

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April 13, 2016, 01:20:34 PM
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Is the bonus already added to the wallet or is that something for after the sale?

Bonuse are being added on the fly.

No they aren't. Math doesn't work that way.

The only thing we know for sure: the amount of Waves in your ICO account decreases on the fly  Grin

Yep, and if somehow they are attempting to add bonus on the fly. That number means almost nothing until the end of the ICO either. So just sit back and have a drink, cause no one knows the final number of coins they get.

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April 13, 2016, 01:28:20 PM
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Is the bonus already added to the wallet or is that something for after the sale?

Bonuse are being added on the fly.

No they aren't. Math doesn't work that way.

Of course it works this way.
The 20% bonus was not notable during the first 24 hours because EACH btc investment had the added 20%. This way it made no difference because your share was the same as if no one had gotten a bonus.
Now as the proportion of 10% and 5% bonus investments get bigger during april and may, your 20% bonus will become more and more notable.

example of how the bonus is added on the fly:

peter 100btc (counts as 120btc)  //20% bonus
bob 50btc (counts as 60btc)  //20% bonus
__24h passed__
max 50btc (counts as 55btc) //10% bonus

before the 24h passed the bonus did not make a difference. peter had 66.6% of the waves and bob had 33.3%. wether the 20% were added or not.
after the 24h period the bonus becomes notable as bob now owns 25.5% of waves and max owns only 23.4% but they both paid 50btc.
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April 13, 2016, 01:29:07 PM
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https://blog.wavesplatform.com/waves-newsletter-no-5-after-day-one-d1a3978cfd98#.mmu7znw6n

"Don’t forget that till the end of may there’s 10% bonus on your deposits."

Shouldn't there be end of april ? Because another source saying there will be 5% bonus in May.

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April 13, 2016, 01:31:30 PM
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I had sent BTC to ICO adress at 2016-04-12 15:43:39

But in dashboard the timestamp of tx is 2016-04-13 00:59:07

so i am eligible for 20% bonus, you identified this issue and will fix it, right?
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April 13, 2016, 01:34:11 PM
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IS there a testnet for waves? I would like to check it out to see what all the hype is about.
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April 13, 2016, 01:34:39 PM
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I tried joining the Facebook group 4 or so days ago, but the request is still pending. Is that supposed to happen?
Is there a group? I thought they only have a page for waves platform.

It's wavesplatform. It has a join button.

It's not official group. Just a random user opened that group. The important page is official Wavesplatform.
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April 13, 2016, 01:35:16 PM
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IS there a testnet for waves? I would like to check it out to see what all the hype is about.
will be up in a couple days

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April 13, 2016, 01:35:26 PM
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I was wondering if the actual number of donation displayed around 4600 btc was including the bonus if we should add the bonus to this figure ? thank you in advance.
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April 13, 2016, 01:37:36 PM
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I tried joining the Facebook group 4 or so days ago, but the request is still pending. Is that supposed to happen?
Is there a group? I thought they only have a page for waves platform.

It's wavesplatform. It has a join button.

It's not official group. Just a random user opened that group. The important page is official Wavesplatform.
Is it the group or the user?
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April 13, 2016, 01:37:45 PM
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IS there a testnet for waves? I would like to check it out to see what all the hype is about.
will be up in a couple days

Ok thanks for fast reply. Will be looking forward to checking it out.
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