Bangladesh considering abandoning Islam as its official religion

[SyGambler]

that's really great , I couldn't imagine that Bangladesh may do such a thing but they are in the right road
hopefully we will see this more and more especially in Asia , religions should never run and rule countries

[magnific61]

Many of people have problem with religion. Especially with Islam.
They are willing all other regimes but İslam.
For example, United Kingdom is governed by monarchy but no problem. Many of countries have a dictator on.
But when a country declares something against İslam, they begin applausing
Devil must be happy about you

[Lethn]

For example, United Kingdom is governed by monarchy but no problem. Many of countries have a dictator on.

You're a total moron, people died to remove the Monarchy from power, the queen is purely a figurehead, there was a civil war over it, go and learn some fucking history, you clearly have something wrong with you, next you'll be ranting about Jews. If you want to talk a load of bullshit about your religion then I'll watch with amusement, but posting fake history and trying to spread it to other people to try and convince them of your point of view is ridiculous.

[magnific61]

For example, United Kingdom is governed by monarchy but no problem. Many of countries have a dictator on.

You're a total moron, people died to remove the Monarchy from power, the queen is purely a figurehead, there was a civil war over it, go and learn some fucking history, you clearly have something wrong with you, next you'll be ranting about Jews. If you want to talk a load of bullshit about your religion then I'll watch with amusement, but posting fake history and trying to spread it to other people to try and convince them of your point of view is ridiculous.

if you really believe in that, i offer you to look at mirror while saying "moron"

[SebastianJu]

magnific61


I'm not sure what you say. I know there are civilized islam countries. But you coming up with the sharia... comeon... those are NOT the civilized muslim countries we speak about. Those would rather free rapists because the women was not hidden correctly with a burka.

Or even worse killing the own daugther only because she wants to be free.

Don't tell me that is hearsay... it happens in my country too. Results of twisted minds destorted by rules coming from dark ages.

You know what... you exactly sound like one of these shitheads that would prefer living in the civilized country but cry about not having the sharia here. Guess you would be more happy living where the sharia rules right? Well, I doubt you would. I'm so very sure that you do so many things here and live in so much freedom that you would not want to stay there.

Well, I might be wrong but I know alot of those guys. Babbling nonsense because they feel like not getting what they deserve. Speaking about things they would surely not like having in their live. I wonder how you would feel having to see someone being hacked off the hand. Though maybe you watch beheading videos and it doesn't concern you? Not sure.

I'm only sick of these kids that want to live in the dark age but don't want to live in the dark age. You can't have both.

Well, I'm not afraid. There are enough people that would fight for freedom against religious domination. Well, in a way george bush did holy wars too. Babbling something from god told him to attack the irak and such bullshit. But the problem there are the other radicals. Christian radicals. Something everyone should be aware of too.

[magnific61]

magnific61


I'm not sure what you say. I know there are civilized islam countries. But you coming up with the sharia... comeon... those are NOT the civilized muslim countries we speak about. Those would rather free rapists because the women was not hidden correctly with a burka.

Or even worse killing the own daugther only because she wants to be free.

Don't tell me that is hearsay... it happens in my country too. Results of twisted minds destorted by rules coming from dark ages.

You know what... you exactly sound like one of these shitheads that would prefer living in the civilized country but cry about not having the sharia here. Guess you would be more happy living where the sharia rules right? Well, I doubt you would. I'm so very sure that you do so many things here and live in so much freedom that you would not want to stay there.

Well, I might be wrong but I know alot of those guys. Babbling nonsense because they feel like not getting what they deserve. Speaking about things they would surely not like having in their live. I wonder how you would feel having to see someone being hacked off the hand. Though maybe you watch beheading videos and it doesn't concern you? Not sure.

I'm only sick of these kids that want to live in the dark age but don't want to live in the dark age. You can't have both.

Well, I'm not afraid. There are enough people that would fight for freedom against religious domination. Well, in a way george bush did holy wars too. Babbling something from god told him to attack the irak and such bullshit. But the problem there are the other radicals. Christian radicals. Something everyone should be aware of too.

Prejudice prejudice prejudice!
Look friend,
Islam is not like other religions. It has own laws and rules. It includes every section of human life from craddle to grave. The first  condition is education. Because  you can't hold anybody without teaching. And you have to provide convenient good life conditions to people for preventing crime.
A real muslim knows that his every action is watched and if even he could hide that in world, he will eventualy pay it.
 You can't understand islam by comparison with others.
You talk about women in islam;
Woman is the most important and venerable person in islam. Woman is mother at first. Woman is like a precious jevel and should been protected from bad eyes and purposes. Therefore islam orders scarf. But if one woman doesn't care this order, she doesn't go out of islam. Just acts against an order and its her own responsibility.
Who kills own daughter? Islam has no order like that.  It has no connection with islam. 
Shortly, you may see islam from dark age but they are also seeing your life style same. Naked women with freedom like animals. No jealousness like pigs. Woman goes hand to hand, bed to bed like a free prostitute. Is that freedom? Maybe!  But that is man's freedom. Not woman's. In modern societies woman is sexual object in general. Now i told about woman in islam. If you wanna know something, please ask without prejudice. I try telling with pleasure.

[SebastianJu]

Prejudice prejudice prejudice!
Look friend,
Islam is not like other religions. It has own laws and rules. It includes every section of human life from craddle to grave. The first  condition is education. Because  you can't hold anybody without teaching. And you have to provide convenient good life conditions to people for preventing crime.
A real muslim knows that his every action is watched and if even he could hide that in world, he will eventualy pay it.

What you describe is a life in fear. You are good because you fear the wrath of god or better the damages coming from middle age punishment rules. What good is it to life a better life out of fear?

And education... I'm not sure what you speak about. The real radicals are closing schools for women. And what would be teached? I'm sure it's not different from radical christians in the US. That god created world and NO, of course there is no evolution and such unholy stories.

You can't understand islam by comparison with others.
You talk about women in islam;
Woman is the most important and venerable person in islam. Woman is mother at first. Woman is like a precious jevel and should been protected from bad eyes and purposes.

I know that women are seen that way. Still you can do anything with them. How does it end often enough when a girl is raped? Who is guilty? There is no equality.

And if you really would have experience with woman then you would know that they would not want to be heightened like a princess when it means they have to hide and are incarcerated. They want to be equals. If other men are like carnivores who will hunt every woman that is not hidden then these men are at fault. The solution is not to punish the women with having to hide.

Besides that... isn't it allowed to beat your wife as a husband? And what about honour? Killing your own daugther to reestablish your honour? That might be anachronistic but it happens. And you want the sharia, where people are stoned and hands are cut off. I really don't get you. Don't you see that in fact you demand violence in your life? You will get everything.

Therefore islam orders scarf. But if one woman doesn't care this order, she doesn't go out of islam. Just acts against an order and its her own responsibility.
Who kills own daughter? Islam has no order like that.  It has no connection with islam. 

I'm not sure who exactly kills the own daugther, but it happens regularly in countries muslim immigrated to. It only can be worse in the countries they are coming from since for sure the bigger radicals will not move to a country full of sin, right?

Shortly, you may see islam from dark age but they are also seeing your life style same. Naked women with freedom like animals. No jealousness like pigs. Woman goes hand to hand, bed to bed like a free prostitute. Is that freedom? Maybe!  But that is man's freedom. Not woman's. In modern societies woman is sexual object in general. Now i told about woman in islam. If you wanna know something, please ask without prejudice. I try telling with pleasure.

Naked women with freedom like animals... I you only could read that sentence out of a mind that has no religious rules in mind. You would wave your head over it.

And what is that? "But that is man's freedom. Not woman's." You really think men have to rule or what? You still live in very patriarchalic thought worlds. Everyone should be free. And there is no rule besides those coming from religions that say that woman have to be ruled by man.

[designerusa]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3473136/Bangladesh-considering-abandoning-Islam-official-religion-following-wake-extremist-attacks.html

Bangladesh could drop Islam as the country's official religion following a string of extremist attacks against people of other faiths. The supreme court in the South Asia nation has began to hear arguments which challenge Islam's status as the official state religion. It comes after a spate of attacks against people of other religions such as Hindus, Christians, and minorities Shi'ites, which have been blamed on Islamic extremists.

Definitely a step in the right direction. Religion must have no place in the government. The news from the Islamic world is mixed. Once secular countries such as Turkey and Indonesia are rapidly becoming Islamized. And the only good news is coming from Bangladesh.

this is a very good news.. if it happens, islamic world is getting a little bit healtier.. religion and government stuffs must be separated for the sake of a country's sake for sure..

[BADecker]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3473136/Bangladesh-considering-abandoning-Islam-official-religion-following-wake-extremist-attacks.html

Bangladesh could drop Islam as the country's official religion following a string of extremist attacks against people of other faiths. The supreme court in the South Asia nation has began to hear arguments which challenge Islam's status as the official state religion. It comes after a spate of attacks against people of other religions such as Hindus, Christians, and minorities Shi'ites, which have been blamed on Islamic extremists.

Definitely a step in the right direction. Religion must have no place in the government. The news from the Islamic world is mixed. Once secular countries such as Turkey and Indonesia are rapidly becoming Islamized. And the only good news is coming from Bangladesh.

this is a very good news.. if it happens, islamic world is getting a little bit healtier.. religion and government stuffs must be separated for the sake of a country's sake for sure..

You don't understand. If this happens, it truly is healthier. But not Islam healthier. Rather Islam destruction. It would only be Islam healthier if the killing were allowed to go on. Why? Because the root and foundations of Islam, the Koran and the Hadiths, both say to kill the infidels.

[clickerz]

Its a good move for Bangladesh as they recognized  and respects other faith. Peace can be achieved through respect on each others religion and more so they must push the interfaith dialogue more often.

[Lethn]

Prejudice prejudice prejudice! 

That pretty much sums up any post you make quite well.

[jjacob]

Secular and independent bloggers are getting chopped up in Bangladesh.
Expect more violence if this move gains momentum.

[SebastianJu]

Secular and independent bloggers are getting chopped up in Bangladesh.
Expect more violence if this move gains momentum.

If true then it shows that sharia, demanded because of rapists, is misused as wished. Which is always the case when "belief" is ruling. It opens space to all kind of misuse.

Even when there are normal moslems promising to rule the country in a good way... past has shown that they might start that way but slowly getting more radical. So when I would live in such a country, I would never ever vote for a party that wants to rule after religious rules.

[magnific61]

Prejudice prejudice prejudice! 

That pretty much sums up any post you make quite well.

So many people are prejudiced about Islam. Whereas they don't know anything about Islam. Hearsays only, islamophobic media words.
I live in a country has secular system. We have lived very bad years. Country lost almost 50 years for wrong interpretation of secular system.
By the way Islam has own system and can't be adapted to secular system. By forbid, by ban you cannot prevent a belief, contrary, you expand it.

[SebastianJu]

By forbid, by ban you cannot prevent a belief, contrary, you expand it.

That's the difference to secular systems. Only because islamic systems forbid other beliefs way too often you should not fear that secular systems forbid the islam. Everyone is free to believe what he wants to believe. And a belief ends where you hurt the rights of others.

Well, I can't believe all this "we want a moderate islam" when it comes up in a secular country. You are even worse demanding the sharia. What is your belief? Salafism?

I wish religious people wouldn't try to put their belief over all other people.

[magnific61]

By forbid, by ban you cannot prevent a belief, contrary, you expand it.

That's the difference to secular systems. Only because islamic systems forbid other beliefs way too often you should not fear that secular systems forbid the islam. Everyone is free to believe what he wants to believe. And a belief ends where you hurt the rights of others.

Well, I can't believe all this "we want a moderate islam" when it comes up in a secular country. You are even worse demanding the sharia. What is your belief? Salafism?

I wish religious people wouldn't try to put their belief over all other people.

There is prejudice! Who said that islam forbids other beliefs? This is not true.
You can believe in every way however you want. A muslim tells you his religion, its up to you accept or decline. No force no forbid.

[Lethn]

There is prejudice! Who said that islam forbids other beliefs? This is not true.
You can believe in every way however you want. A muslim tells you his religion, its up to you accept or decline. No force no forbid.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/apostasy.aspx

Go on, justify it, this should be good

You don't get a free pass from criticism just because you're a muslim you idiot, no religion does.

[SebastianJu]

By forbid, by ban you cannot prevent a belief, contrary, you expand it.

That's the difference to secular systems. Only because islamic systems forbid other beliefs way too often you should not fear that secular systems forbid the islam. Everyone is free to believe what he wants to believe. And a belief ends where you hurt the rights of others.

Well, I can't believe all this "we want a moderate islam" when it comes up in a secular country. You are even worse demanding the sharia. What is your belief? Salafism?

I wish religious people wouldn't try to put their belief over all other people.

There is prejudice! Who said that islam forbids other beliefs? This is not true.
You can believe in every way however you want. A muslim tells you his religion, its up to you accept or decline. No force no forbid.

Please don't act like you don't see things happening left and right in other countries. For example christians are killed often in some islamic countries.

But you know what... salafism is by now well known as the last step before terrorism. That is why salafism groups are observed quite well. I guess you live in france. The immigrants in the banlieues surely have not the best life and yes some take the worst way out. But this is a normal thing to happen if people feel like it is not going well for them. The worse the crazier the people become.

I know very well that there are islamic countries that live a free islam. No one dares to try to enforce the sharia and other rules that are obviously not made for our times. Most countries dropped those stone age rules but they had them once. And you come on with the wish to go back to stoneage times?

If you would be moderate, ok. I know that there are other moslems than you. They surely give freedom to woman and everyone. You wouldn't. And that makes you dangerous. Depending on if your life goes in the direction you want it to you might even turn way more radical. Giving up and putting all your hope in a life with virgins in heaven. And don't tell me it's prejudice. It happens surely around you too.

Even if you would want a moderate islam. Demanding that for a states religion is dangerous again. You surely know the muslim brotherhood. That is the organisation behind all the terror of islamic terror around the world. (Not IS though.) But not only terror, they try to take over countries with moderate promises, then enforce stricter rules.

So in any way... islam as a governmental rule is dangerous. In general, religious rules in a government are dangerous and everyone needs to fight them. Religion can still exist freely as long as no other persons get harmed from it. So you can still despise homosexuals. But if you feel the urge to kill them in the name of god because of sharia then you would be rightfully a terrorist.
And no... if you want the sharia then you can't claim others will do the killing. It means you would kill others just because of your religion too. Because you feel the religion gives you the right or the need to do so. And don't tell me my logic is erraneous here.

What I want to say is... the islam is a problem when stoneage rules are demanded, when other persons are restricted in their right to live freely as they wish. The islam is dangerous when getting power in a government. Those demanding violence in the name of god are dangerous. Unfortunately you are one of those too.

It's the general attitude of the religion.

I'm sorry for you that you got in contact with such radical persons.

[magnific61]

By forbid, by ban you cannot prevent a belief, contrary, you expand it.

That's the difference to secular systems. Only because islamic systems forbid other beliefs way too often you should not fear that secular systems forbid the islam. Everyone is free to believe what he wants to believe. And a belief ends where you hurt the rights of others.

Well, I can't believe all this "we want a moderate islam" when it comes up in a secular country. You are even worse demanding the sharia. What is your belief? Salafism?

I wish religious people wouldn't try to put their belief over all other people.

There is prejudice! Who said that islam forbids other beliefs? This is not true.
You can believe in every way however you want. A muslim tells you his religion, its up to you accept or decline. No force no forbid.

Please don't act like you don't see things happening left and right in other countries. For example christians are killed often in some islamic countries.

But you know what... salafism is by now well known as the last step before terrorism. That is why salafism groups are observed quite well. I guess you live in france. The immigrants in the banlieues surely have not the best life and yes some take the worst way out. But this is a normal thing to happen if people feel like it is not going well for them. The worse the crazier the people become.

I know very well that there are islamic countries that live a free islam. No one dares to try to enforce the sharia and other rules that are obviously not made for our times. Most countries dropped those stone age rules but they had them once. And you come on with the wish to go back to stoneage times?

If you would be moderate, ok. I know that there are other moslems than you. They surely give freedom to woman and everyone. You wouldn't. And that makes you dangerous. Depending on if your life goes in the direction you want it to you might even turn way more radical. Giving up and putting all your hope in a life with virgins in heaven. And don't tell me it's prejudice. It happens surely around you too.

Even if you would want a moderate islam. Demanding that for a states religion is dangerous again. You surely know the muslim brotherhood. That is the organisation behind all the terror of islamic terror around the world. (Not IS though.) But not only terror, they try to take over countries with moderate promises, then enforce stricter rules.

So in any way... islam as a governmental rule is dangerous. In general, religious rules in a government are dangerous and everyone needs to fight them. Religion can still exist freely as long as no other persons get harmed from it. So you can still despise homosexuals. But if you feel the urge to kill them in the name of god because of sharia then you would be rightfully a terrorist.
And no... if you want the sharia then you can't claim others will do the killing. It means you would kill others just because of your religion too. Because you feel the religion gives you the right or the need to do so. And don't tell me my logic is erraneous here.

What I want to say is... the islam is a problem when stoneage rules are demanded, when other persons are restricted in their right to live freely as they wish. The islam is dangerous when getting power in a government. Those demanding violence in the name of god are dangerous. Unfortunately you are one of those too.

It's the general attitude of the religion.

I'm sorry for you that you got in contact with such radical persons.

Killed muslims in christian countries are more than killed christians in islam countries if we don't count war. If we count war, then comes a new question that "what they had there?"
Islam also has corrupted sects like Vahabi, Selefi. They don't accept others as real muslims and they are more near to terror and therefore easy to use them for imperial purposes. Christianity also has those kind sects like Evangelists, isn't it? They have an idea to help Jesus Arrival. When Jesus will come? When world falls in chaos and blood. So we need to put the world in war, chaos and blood for helping Jesus Arrival
Christians and muslims have one difference; Muslim terrorists are ignorant but mostly christians are wise.
Actually both of religion's members are used by materialist power. You may call them Illuminati, You may call them Global financial monsters.... Whatever if you call them they are managing everything on world. They aren't atheists but worse of being atheist. They are satanist

[n0ne]

that's really great , I couldn't imagine that Bangladesh may do such a thing but they are in the right road
hopefully we will see this more and more especially in Asia , religions should never run and rule countries

Bangladesh has tried their best to make islam as their official religion, but got defeated and then agreed to the values of human emotions which is highly appreciable.