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March 06, 2016, 07:46:02 AM
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3473136/Bangladesh-considering-abandoning-Islam-official-religion-following-wake-extremist-attacks.html

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Bangladesh could drop Islam as the country's official religion following a string of extremist attacks against people of other faiths. The supreme court in the South Asia nation has began to hear arguments which challenge Islam's status as the official state religion. It comes after a spate of attacks against people of other religions such as Hindus, Christians, and minorities Shi'ites, which have been blamed on Islamic extremists.

Definitely a step in the right direction. Religion must have no place in the government. The news from the Islamic world is mixed. Once secular countries such as Turkey and Indonesia are rapidly becoming Islamized. And the only good news is coming from Bangladesh.
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March 06, 2016, 08:22:44 AM
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March 06, 2016, 09:47:07 AM
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Secular countries are the most peaceful, that's a simple fact. It's a shame to see countries like Turkey fall further and further towards a religious based government, which actually goes against all the idea's of the founder of the country. Religion is so short sighted and only creates conflict.

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March 06, 2016, 01:45:12 PM
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I'm not sure if this is good decision.
If Bangladesh have serious issues with some radicals from Islam, they should stop and persecute this people, not criminalize and judge whole religion.
Can institution or religion as organization be responsible for individual acts of all Muslim people?
I don't think so.
Each person should be responsible for his own acts, not whole organization.

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March 06, 2016, 01:52:23 PM
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Definitely a step in the right direction. Religion must have no place in the government. The news from the Islamic world is mixed. Once secular countries such as Turkey and Indonesia are rapidly becoming Islamized. And the only good news is coming from Bangladesh.
India is pushing them to be secular over a long time. But they are still 'considering'.

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March 06, 2016, 02:43:05 PM
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I'm not sure if this is good decision.
If Bangladesh have serious issues with some radicals from Islam, they should stop and persecute this people, not criminalize and judge whole religion.
Can institution or religion as organization be responsible for individual acts of all Muslim people?
I don't think so.
Each person should be responsible for his own acts, not whole organization.


They did not say that they want to criminalize religions. They only should not be part of the goverment anymore.

Religions are a free choice that every individual can decide for themselfes.

That's all to it.

Surely radicals won't like that and attack.

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March 06, 2016, 03:07:42 PM
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I'm not sure if this is good decision.
If Bangladesh have serious issues with some radicals from Islam, they should stop and persecute this people, not criminalize and judge whole religion.
Can institution or religion as organization be responsible for individual acts of all Muslim people?
I don't think so.
Each person should be responsible for his own acts, not whole organization.


They did not say that they want to criminalize religions. They only should not be part of the goverment anymore.

Religions are a free choice that every individual can decide for themselfes.

That's all to it.

Surely radicals won't like that and attack.

Of course you would not want to criminalize religion.  People should be allowed to believe whatever bat shit crazy, bronze age story they want to believe in private.  But not in public.

Religion has no place in government and schools.

Over time, I think people hiring engineers and doctors would probably question their judgement and sanity when they profess that Earth is flat, that it is 7230 years old, or that there are flying horses.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHvxiQbQ37I

But the grip religion has on the society in most countries is truly incredible, so it will not happen overnight.

Intelligent, educated people around the world should speak out and expose the nonsense religion spouts out.

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March 06, 2016, 03:11:52 PM
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I'm not sure if this is good decision.
If Bangladesh have serious issues with some radicals from Islam, they should stop and persecute this people, not criminalize and judge whole religion.
Can institution or religion as organization be responsible for individual acts of all Muslim people?
I don't think so.
Each person should be responsible for his own acts, not whole organization.


They did not say that they want to criminalize religions. They only should not be part of the goverment anymore.

Religions are a free choice that every individual can decide for themselfes.

That's all to it.

Surely radicals won't like that and attack.

Exactly, what they're doing is just removing the religion from their politics, which is exactly how it should be, people who try to claim otherwise are just being deliberate pricks and are overreacting like when you say that a lot of Islamists have no problem with anti-semitism and seem to think persecuting homosexuals is okay.
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March 06, 2016, 06:42:36 PM
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Definitely a step in the right direction. However, I am afraid that it came too late for the minorities, especially the Hindus and the Buddhists. The Hindus have declined from 28% of the total population in 1941, to less than 8% by 2011. The Buddhists used to be the overwhelming majority in the Chittagong Hill Tracts until the 1970s. Now, they have been reduced to a minority.

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March 06, 2016, 08:33:48 PM
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3473136/Bangladesh-considering-abandoning-Islam-official-religion-following-wake-extremist-attacks.html

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Bangladesh could drop Islam as the country's official religion following a string of extremist attacks against people of other faiths. The supreme court in the South Asia nation has began to hear arguments which challenge Islam's status as the official state religion. It comes after a spate of attacks against people of other religions such as Hindus, Christians, and minorities Shi'ites, which have been blamed on Islamic extremists.

Definitely a step in the right direction. Religion must have no place in the government. The news from the Islamic world is mixed. Once secular countries such as Turkey and Indonesia are rapidly becoming Islamized. And the only good news is coming from Bangladesh.


I'll keep a wait and see attitude about that news.


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Any country doing this is taking a step in the right direction.   Religion is a barbarous relic of humanity's ugly past.  Burn the churches too.

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March 07, 2016, 12:21:57 AM
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If they do this, and then prosecute Islamites who harm others, to the full extent of the law (execution when necessary) Bangladesh might even become free.

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Bangladesh has %89 muslim population. In spite of so big  population if you prune islamic leaders like Kameruzzaman, Nizami, Azzam (they are all older than 70 years old.  Azzam was 92 years old) you can't secure your regyme. But you may keep it alive temporarily. If a 90 years lld man is a treat for your regyme, anyway your regyme collapsed. There's humanity crime in Bangladesh
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Indeed Banglades have a huge muslim majority and there will be surely some upheaval if the government trying to reform it as a secular state. Such action would be only good to make extremists show their hands in preparation for a showdown, but that surely going to be an ugly and bloody business.
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Bangladesh has %89 muslim population. In spite of so big  population if you prune islamic leaders like Kameruzzaman, Nizami, Azzam (they are all older than 70 years old.  Azzam was 92 years old) you can't secure your regyme. But you may keep it alive temporarily. If a 90 years lld man is a treat for your regyme, anyway your regyme collapsed. There's humanity crime in Bangladesh

You Turks stay out of Bangladesh. That country was always secular, and will remain as one. I have met a few Bangladeshis, and they are very progressive people unlike the Saudis and the Turks who follow stone age rituals and beliefs. The Saudis are trying hard to inject their Wahhabi toxin, by opening new madrassas and indoctrination centers. But it is not going to work.
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Bangladesh has %89 muslim population. In spite of so big  population if you prune islamic leaders like Kameruzzaman, Nizami, Azzam (they are all older than 70 years old.  Azzam was 92 years old) you can't secure your regyme. But you may keep it alive temporarily. If a 90 years lld man is a treat for your regyme, anyway your regyme collapsed. There's humanity crime in Bangladesh

You Turks stay out of Bangladesh. That country was always secular, and will remain as one. I have met a few Bangladeshis, and they are very progressive people unlike the Saudis and the Turks who follow stone age rituals and beliefs. The Saudis are trying hard to inject their Wahhabi toxin, by opening new madrassas and indoctrination centers. But it is not going to work.
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Indeed Banglades have a huge muslim majority and there will be surely some upheaval if the government trying to reform it as a secular state. Such action would be only good to make extremists show their hands in preparation for a showdown, but that surely going to be an ugly and bloody business.

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I just hope they will really do that and prove they belong to free world. Having official religion belong to dark medieval age and it is really about time to end that once for all. Religion should be personal choice of every single person and religious practice one of basic human rights, but religion should stay out of politic.
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March 07, 2016, 05:27:43 PM
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I just hope they will really do that and prove they belong to free world. Having official religion belong to dark medieval age and it is really about time to end that once for all. Religion should be personal choice of every single person and religious practice one of basic human rights, but religion should stay out of politic.

Bangladesh is a common law nation. This means that - if the people realized it - they can individually require payment from anyone who harms them or murders their relatives... using government to do it.

Any question of government religion is there only to confuse the people. It has no meaning under common law. The only thing hat has meaning under common law is, did you harm your neighbor in your use of your freedom.

Government officials of Bangladesh know this. That's why they try to confuse the people. If the people knew how they have been screwed by government people in many ways, they would use government to individually demand repayment from the government person who harmed them... repayment in the form of some actual property... and maybe imprisonment or execution of the really bad government people.

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