Combating Oligarchy

[ATguy]

So, you can decide how you spend your Bitcoins, or even which cryptocoin you use, but you won't be making any design decision for the Bitcoin Project, unless your code is accepted as a pull request on github.com/bitcoin. No democracy involved. Sorry about that. 

github.com/bitcoin  is not necessary Bitcoin. It is just one of Bitcoin full node implementations - Bitcoin Core, previously Bitcoin QT and Satoshi client. Bitcoin Core should finally move to github.com/bitcoincore and the github.com/bitcoin  can be used as a gateway to all Bitcoins full node implementations - this would be more realistic description of what github.com/bitcoin is. Wladimir should grow up and do the change, it is very important for decentralization of Bitcoin development.

[SpiryGolden]

Yeah I will be happy to dump my 500 coins if Bitcoin Blockstream Core wins this battle. Sadly they are controlling all media channels were people can inform themselves and choose. So this will be a hard battle.

I dont think you have 500 bitcoin.

Most of them are in cold storage I do have 51% on a ledger. And no Bitcoin is not a corporate play toy. It wasn't meant to be that. Since that's direction is heading then ...as you said I'll try to search a better uncontrolled by seceretive Elite Groups cryptocurrency. Thanks for your 2 bits of wise words. But still Bitcoin is controlled by tyrany that's why people don't know about this debate. Because that's what they are trying to hide , specially the Bitcoin Core group. You can see that this topic was moved to altcoins. And they did many faul moves just to hide this debate as much as possible.

Will a print screen satisfy you ?

[chopstick]

Gotta love how this thread was moved to altcoin discussion. Just goes to show how out of touch the people running this forum are!

[SpiryGolden]

Gotta love how this thread was moved to altcoin discussion. Just goes to show how out of touch the people running this forum are!

Yes. This is for keeping people out of info. They are 100% aware that people will go on Bitcoin Classic. They are certain. Bitcoin Classic gain 25% of Bitcoin nodes with all this supression. Imagine without supression. Just imagine. They are aware that they are the lossing part if they don't use their force to stop spreading the word about Bitcoin Classic or any other alternative to Bitcoin code itself.

[RealBitcoin]

Most of them are in cold storage I do have 51% on a ledger. And no Bitcoin is not a corporate play toy. It wasn't meant to be that. Since that's direction is heading then ...as you said I'll try to search a better uncontrolled by seceretive Elite Groups cryptocurrency. Thanks for your 2 bits of wise words. But still Bitcoin is controlled by tyrany that's why people don't know about this debate. Because that's what they are trying to hide , specially the Bitcoin Core group. You can see that this topic was moved to altcoins. And they did many faul moves just to hide this debate as much as possible.

Will a print screen satisfy you ?

Well anyone can photoshop that, only a signed message from that address can prove that it's yours.

But to be honest I dont care how much bitcoins you have.


But if you really have a lot of bitcoins it's in your interest too to not have bad code implemented in the software, otherwise you can lose a lot of money.

A few newbies leaving on the other hand is really no big deal.

[Nxtblg]

Gotta love how this thread was moved to altcoin discussion. Just goes to show how out of touch the people running this forum are!

Regardless of whether or not they're out of touch, it's now in the one of the most popular sections of Bitcointalk. I'm actually glad it's been moved because I hardly wander out of the altcoin ghetto.

[Lauda]

Gotta love how this thread was moved to altcoin discussion. Just goes to show how out of touch the people running this forum are!

Yes. This is for keeping people out of info. They are 100% aware that people will go on Bitcoin Classic. They are certain.

The same way that the forum administration "was 100% aware" that people will go to Bitcoin XT?  This is a privately owned forum. It seems that people fail to understand what this means.

[RealBitcoin]

Gotta love how this thread was moved to altcoin discussion. Just goes to show how out of touch the people running this forum are!

Yes. This is for keeping people out of info. They are 100% aware that people will go on Bitcoin Classic. They are certain.

The same way that the forum administration "was 100% aware" that people will go to Bitcoin XT?  This is a privately owned forum. It seems that people fail to understand what this means.

There is no public property, it's a contradiction, everything essentially is private or a coalition of private property.

But socialists cant comprehend this. Either there is private property or there isnt. If there is, then everything is private, otherwise it's a logical contradiction.

[chopstick]

Gotta love how this thread was moved to altcoin discussion. Just goes to show how out of touch the people running this forum are!

Yes. This is for keeping people out of info. They are 100% aware that people will go on Bitcoin Classic. They are certain.

The same way that the forum administration "was 100% aware" that people will go to Bitcoin XT?   This is a privately owned forum. It seems that people fail to understand what this means.

Yes Lauda, we all know the admins on this forum are biased heavily for Core. No one is saying the forum isn't privately owned. We knew that already.

[TPTB_need_war]

There is no public property

Who owns the atmosphere we breathe.

[RealBitcoin]

There is no public property

Who owns the atmosphere we breathe.

Everyone owns a proportional % of the air, that he consumes. But since the air we breathe is so abundant, it's hard to quantify.

And because of the abundance, the price is infinitessimal, tending towards 0, and it's rounded down, so it's effectively 0.


But you cannot say that it's a public property, because the word "public" has really no meaning when you assign it to the word "property".

To say that something is public, means that there is no owner of it, which is bogus, because everything has an owner.

[Lauda]

Yes Lauda, we all know the admins on this forum are biased heavily for Core. No one is saying the forum isn't privately owned. We knew that already.

That's like saying that I'm biased because I don't like you bring potentially dangerous stranger into my house. The logic isn't sound. Alternative implementations are welcome, contentious HF's aren't.

There is no public property, it's a contradiction, everything essentially is private or a coalition of private property.

But socialists cant comprehend this. Either there is private property or there isnt. If there is, then everything is private, otherwise it's a logical contradiction.

That's taking things a bit far, but okay. Additionally, it is interesting how some people think "freedom of speech" means that the moderators aren't allowed to delete their posts.  

[RealBitcoin]

That's taking things a bit far, but okay. Additionally, it is interesting how some people think "freedom of speech" means that the moderators aren't allowed to delete their posts. 

Well just think about it: property = something that has an owner  , public = that there is no owner , therefore public property is an oxymoron, a logical contradiction by itself.

So the only logical way to interpret 'public property' is if we say that it's owned by everybody, which means that everyone owns a % share of that item, which can be either weighted % or flat %.

So if we say that bitcoin is "public property" that means that I own as much % share of bitcoin, that I have in my balance.