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[marioantonini]

1 Marc MARQUEZ Honda SPA 248
2 Valentino ROSSI Yamaha ITA 196
3 Jorge LORENZO Yamaha SPA 182
4 Dani PEDROSA Honda SPA 155
5 Maverick VIÑALES Suzuki SPA 149
6 Cal CRUTCHLOW Honda GBR 105
7 Andrea DOVIZIOSO Ducati ITA 104
8 Andrea IANNONE Ducati ITA 96
9 Pol ESPARGARO Yamaha SPA 96
10 Hector BARBERA Ducati SPA 84
11 Eugene LAVERTY Ducati IRL 71
12 Aleix ESPARGARO Suzuki SPA 69
13 Scott REDDING Ducati GBR 55
14 Alvaro BAUTISTA Aprilia SPA 54
15 Danilo PETRUCCI Ducati ITA 50
16 Stefan BRADL Aprilia GER 49
17 Jack MILLER Honda AUS 42
18 Bradley SMITH Yamaha GBR 42
19 Michele PIRRO Ducati ITA 36
20 Tito RABAT Honda SPA 27
21 Loris BAZ Ducati FRA 24
22 Yonny HERNANDEZ Ducati COL 13
23 Alex LOWES Yamaha GBR 3
24 Nicky HAYDEN Honda USA 1






52-point lead with only four races to go. Marquez has already won. Interesting the fight for second place between Lorenzo and Rossi, and for fourth place between Pedrosa and the new talent Vinales

i remember the Formula 1 2007, when Hamilton have 17 point more to Raikkonen whit only 2 race (and winner earn only 10 point), but Hamilton crash in the first and get only 2 point in the second and Raikkonen win the title.
All can happen in sport 

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[BitcoinSupremo]

1 Marc MARQUEZ Honda SPA 248
2 Valentino ROSSI Yamaha ITA 196
3 Jorge LORENZO Yamaha SPA 182
4 Dani PEDROSA Honda SPA 155
5 Maverick VIÑALES Suzuki SPA 149
6 Cal CRUTCHLOW Honda GBR 105
7 Andrea DOVIZIOSO Ducati ITA 104
8 Andrea IANNONE Ducati ITA 96
9 Pol ESPARGARO Yamaha SPA 96
10 Hector BARBERA Ducati SPA 84
11 Eugene LAVERTY Ducati IRL 71
12 Aleix ESPARGARO Suzuki SPA 69
13 Scott REDDING Ducati GBR 55
14 Alvaro BAUTISTA Aprilia SPA 54
15 Danilo PETRUCCI Ducati ITA 50
16 Stefan BRADL Aprilia GER 49
17 Jack MILLER Honda AUS 42
18 Bradley SMITH Yamaha GBR 42
19 Michele PIRRO Ducati ITA 36
20 Tito RABAT Honda SPA 27
21 Loris BAZ Ducati FRA 24
22 Yonny HERNANDEZ Ducati COL 13
23 Alex LOWES Yamaha GBR 3
24 Nicky HAYDEN Honda USA 1






52-point lead with only four races to go. Marquez has already won. Interesting the fight for second place between Lorenzo and Rossi, and for fourth place between Pedrosa and the new talent Vinales

i remember the Formula 1 2007, when Hamilton have 17 point more to Raikkonen whit only 2 race (and winner earn only 10 point), but Hamilton crash in the first and get only 2 point in the second and Raikkonen win the title.
All can happen in sport 

And Hamilton in 2008 won by luck the title too after a hard fought battle with Felipe Massa. I am sure if he did lose this championship he would be under heavy depression since then so it's a very good thing that he won back the title then.

However in MotoGP is quite different as chances of crashing with others are really low compared to Formula 1 , in MotoGP you may fall down alone but it is very uncommon that you to go hit somebody else after the race started well except that Italian guy of the Ducati which I don't remember the name now, I think it's Andrea Iannone, so called Andrea Cannone (The cannon) in Italy because he hit other people.

Still  I think MotoGP case is closed with Marquez as a winner for this year.

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52-point lead with only four races to go. Marquez has already won. Interesting the fight for second place between Lorenzo and Rossi, and for fourth place between Pedrosa and the new talent Vinales

i remember the Formula 1 2007, when Hamilton have 17 point more to Raikkonen whit only 2 race (and winner earn only 10 point), but Hamilton crash in the first and get only 2 point in the second and Raikkonen win the title.
All can happen in sport 

And Hamilton in 2008 won by luck the title too after a hard fought battle with Felipe Massa. I am sure if he did lose this championship he would be under heavy depression since then so it's a very good thing that he won back the title then.

However in MotoGP is quite different as chances of crashing with others are really low compared to Formula 1 , in MotoGP you may fall down alone but it is very uncommon that you to go hit somebody else after the race started well except that Italian guy of the Ducati which I don't remember the name now, I think it's Andrea Iannone, so called Andrea Cannone (The cannon) in Italy because he hit other people.

Still  I think MotoGP case is closed with Marquez as a winner for this year.

yea anything can happen considering that gap is big but reachable
nice to mentioned that in 2007 was like that and with that we can add that year when Hamilton took title over Masa with one point margin Brazil GP

this is motosport anything can happen one bad choice and everything is open again

[tokeweed]

Keep an eye out for the McClarens in practice.  They will be testing Honda's latest engine upgrades.  But actual use would have to wait until the race in Austin to avoid any penalties for the Japanese Grand Prix.  Hopefully the upgrades are good enough to put them a tad higher on the grid in the future remaining races.

[azguard]

Keep an eye out for the McClarens in practice.  They will be testing Honda's latest engine upgrades.  But actual use would have to wait until the race in Austin to avoid any penalties for the Japanese Grand Prix.  Hopefully the upgrades are good enough to put them a tad higher on the grid in the future remaining races.

i read that and after today's practice it will be clear will they have some better engine at the end of this season but they shown progress so far considering last season i mean

[azguard]

Full qualifying results for round 16 of the 2016 Formula 1 World Championship (F1), the Malaysian Grand Prix at the Sepang International Circuit.

1. Lewis Hamilton   GBR Mercedes-Mercedes   1m 32.850s
2. Nico Rosberg   GER Mercedes-Mercedes   1m 33.264s
3. Max Verstappen NED Red Bull-TAG   1m 33.420s
4. Daniel Ricciardo   AUS Red Bull-TAG   1m 33.467s
5. Sebastian Vettel   GER Ferrari-Ferrari   1m 33.584s
6. Kimi Raikkonen   FIN Ferrari-Ferrari   1m 33.632s
7. Sergio Perez   MEX Force India-Mercedes   1m 34.319s
8. Nico Hulkenberg   GER Force India-Mercedes   1m 34.489s
9. Jenson Button   GBR McLaren-Honda   1m 34.518s
10. Felipe Massa   BRA Williams-Mercedes   1m 34.671s

11. Valtteri Bottas   FIN Williams-Mercedes   1m 34.577s
12. Romain Grosjean   FRA Haas-Ferrari   1m 35.001s
13. Esteban Gutierrez   MEX Haas-Ferrari   1m 35.097s
14. Kevin Magnussen   DEN Renault-Renault   1m 35.277s
15. Daniil Kvyat   RUS Toro Rosso-Ferrari   1m 35.369s
16. Carlos Sainz   ESP Toro Rosso-Ferrari   1m 35.374s

17. Marcus Ericsson   SWE Sauber-Ferrari   1m 35.816s
18. Felipe Nasr   BRA Sauber-Ferrari   1m 35.949s
19. Jolyon Palmer   GBR Renault-Renault   1m 36.999s
20. Esteban Ocon   FRA Manor-Mercedes   1m 37.451s
21. Pascal Wehrlein   GER Manor-Mercedes   1m 38.587s
22. Fernando Alonso   ESP McLaren-Honda   1m 41.155s

[marioantonini]

More of tomorrow f1 depend to start.
Generally, Hamilton don't have a good start, if the 2 red bull overtaking to start the race can are nice, but if Hamilton start and to the first lap are first, the race are end 

[azguard]

More of tomorrow f1 depend to start.
Generally, Hamilton don't have a good start, if the 2 red bull overtaking to start the race can are nice, but if Hamilton start and to the first lap are first, the race are end 

i totally agree with you
last few races he blow up from pole but maybe is better for him to start from 3 4 row they he is in winning condition for sure
for me he better drives when he is on low starting position

[azguard]

Full race results for the 16th round of the 2016 Formula 1 World Championship (F1), the Malaysian Grand Prix at Sepang

1. Daniel Ricciardo   AUS Red Bull-TAG Heuer   56 laps / 1h 37m 12.776s
2. Max Verstappen   NED Red Bull-TAG Heuer   +2.4s
3. Nico Rosberg   GER Mercedes-Mercedes   +25.5s
4. Kimi Raikkonen   FIN Ferrari-Ferrari   +28.7s
5. Valtteri Bottas   FIN Williams-Mercedes   +61.5s
6. Sergio Perez   MEX Force India-Mercedes   +63.7s
7. Fernando Alonso   ESP McLaren-Honda   +65.2s
8. Nico Hulkenberg   GER Force India-Mercedes   +74.0s
9. Jenson Button   GBR McLaren-Honda   +81.8s
10. Jolyon Palmer   GBR Renault-Renault   +95.4s

11. Carlos Sainz Jr   ESP Toro Rosso-Ferrari   +98.8s
12. Marcus Ericsson   SWE Sauber-Ferrari   +1 lap
13. Felipe Massa   BRZ Williams-Mercedes   +1 lap
14. Daniil Kvyat   RUS Toro Rosso-Ferrari   +1 lap
15. Pascal Wehrlein GER MRT-Mercedes   +1 lap
16. Esteban Ocon   FRA MRT-Mercedes   +1 lap

Not Classified

Rtd. Felipe Nasr   BRZ Sauber-Ferrari   +
Rtd. Lewis Hamilton   GBR Mercedes-Mercedes   +
Rtd. Esteban Gutierrez MEX Haas-Ferrari   +
Rtd. Kevin Magnussen   DEN Renault-Renault   +
Rtd. Romain Grosjean FRA Haas-Ferrari   +
Rtd. Sebastian Vettel   GER Ferrari-Ferrari   +56 laps

[cicciobtc]

Standing F1:

1)Nico Rosberg  Mercedes    288
2)Lewis Hamilton  Mercedes   265
3)Daniel Ricciardo  Red Bull Racing  204
4)Kimi Raikkonen   Ferrari  160
5)Sebastian Vettel  Ferrari  153
6)Max Verstappen  Red Bull Racing  147
7)Valtteri Bottas Williams   80
8)Sergio Perez  Force India 74
9)Nico Hulkenberg  Force India 50
10)Fernando Alonso McLaren 42
11)Felipe Massa Williams  39
12)Daniil Kvyat  Toro Rosso 31
13)Carlos Sainz Toro Rosso 30

23-point lead to 5 runs from the end is a good advantage for Rosberg

[marioantonini]

I start to not apprecciate the Ferrari, i'm italian, i'm Ferrari fan, but i really heat the liar.
Vettel have a really crazy start, and the ferrari team, live to italian television talk "Verstappen close Sebastian, for this crash against Rosberg".
Tot the end of race, later Vettel have penalizated for crash, talk "is only unlucky".

Really happy for ricciardo, really a good boy

[tokeweed]

Yeah, good for Ricciardo winning the race.  He's one of my favorite drivers out there.  And the race between the two Red Bulls was a little bit entertaining.  Too bad Hamilton's engine went on fire.  It would have been nice to see him gain more points for the driver's championship and seeing Rosberg cringe and whine again would be priceless. 

[azguard]

Race was good also good performance from McLaren they seem to get improved from this race big time
Also reading some article that Hamilton is really mad about this and that he want explanation they have 6 this years engines and 2 last year engines and that his is only one with problems
Expect to see any news about this today or tomorrow at least if anyone have something for this post here link i want to read what was that

[azguard]

Who is going where?
2017 F1 driver line-up so far

Mercedes
Nico Rosberg (Confirmed)
Lewis Hamilton (Confirmed)

Ferrari
Sebastian Vettel (Confirmed)
Kimi Raikkonen (Confirmed)

Red Bull TAG-Heuer/Renault
Daniel Ricciardo (Confirmed)
Max Verstappen (Confirmed)

Williams-Mercedes
TBA
TBA
Possible Candidates – Valtteri Bottas, Felipe Nasr, Pascal Wehrlein, Alex Lynn, Lance Stroll

McLaren-Honda
Fernando Alonso (Confirmed)
Stoffel Vandoorne (Confirmed)

Force India-Mercedes
Nico Hulkenberg (Confirmed)
Sergio Perez (Confirmed)

Toro Rosso-Renault
Carlos Sainz (Confirmed)
TBA
Possible Candidates – Daniil Kvyat, Pierre Gasly

Renault
TBA
TBA
Possible Candidates – Kevin Magnussen, Felipe Nasr, Valtteri Bottas, Esteban Ocon, Sergey Sirotkin, Jolyon Palmer

Sauber-Ferrari
TBA
TBA
Possible Candidates – Marcus Ericsson, Felipe Nasr, Antonio Giovinazzi

Manor-Mercedes
TBA
TBA
Possible candidates: Pascal Wehrlein, Esteban Ocon, Alexander Rossi, Rio Haryanto

Haas-Ferrari
TBA
TBA
Possible candidates: Romain Grosjean, Esteban Gutierrez, Felipe Nasr

[tokeweed]

Who is going where?
2017 F1 driver line-up so far



Williams-Mercedes
TBA
TBA
Possible Candidates – Valtteri Bottas, Felipe Nasr, Pascal Wehrlein, Alex Lynn, Lance Stroll

I would love to see Pascal Wehrlein to Williams and let's see what he can do with their car.  I'm guessing he could enter Q3 consistently every week.  

It will take a while before he can get a drive in Mercedes as we can see that either Rosberg and Hamilton aren't planning to retire or leave the team just yet.  So Wehrlein will have to wait for around 3 - 4 years.  It would be better for him to get a drive in better teams than Manor.

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[marioantonini]

i don't understand the world of Lewis Hamilton later the crash of engine, i hope are only frustrating word for the bad result and Lewis don't think really this. I have read "i ask to mercedes, why all problem are to my car? I think anibody don't like see i win other title"

i wait 2-3 day for see the new interwiew

[azguard]

i don't understand the world of Lewis Hamilton later the crash of engine, i hope are only frustrating word for the bad result and Lewis don't think really this. I have read "i ask to mercedes, why all problem are to my car? I think anibody don't like see i win other title"

i wait 2-3 day for see the new interwiew

i have found some info about this

Mercedes F1 team principal Toto Wolff has refuted the idea the series of engine failures Lewis Hamilton has suffered will put a tilt on the world title race towards Nico Rosberg but has concede the German has enjoyed the majority of luck in 2016.

Hamiton was denied a seventh win of the season by a rare Mercedes power unit failure 16 laps from the finish and coupled with Rosberg's recovery drive to third having been hit into a spin at the first turn the defending F1 world champion trails his team-mate by 23 points.

The dramatic failure is another one in a line of engine problems the British driver has suffered this year which saw him endure a difficult start to the season – falling 43 points behind Rosberg at one point – while he saw his race compromised at Spa by enforced grid penalties for engine changes

whole text can be read here http://www.crash.net/f1/news/234171/1/wolff-certain-engine-blows-wont-dictate-title-battle.html

[marioantonini]

yes, already because Hamilton don't understand, in F1 you can win a title already without dominated (the Rosberg daddy have won a title with only 1 gp win).
Hamilton are first, with more of 22 second to Ricciardo, and continue pushing for every lap a best lap. Why ? Probably the power unit crash already , but why risk ? Rosberg every time are first, control the race to the end

[azguard]

The official 2017 MotoGP pre-season tests will be held on the following dates and locations:

MotoGP
1. Malaysia, Sepang: January 30-February 1
2. Australia, Phillip Island: February 15-17
3. Qatar, Losail: March 10-12

Moto2/Moto3
1. Spain, Jerez: March 9-10
2. Qatar, Losail: March 17-19

The venues will thus remain the same as this season, when the second Sepang MotoGP test was replaced by a new outing at Phillip Island.

Prior to 2017, the official post-season Valencia test will be held on November 15-16.

Valencia will see Jorge Lorenzo make his Ducati debut, Maverick Vinales at Yamaha, Andrea Iannone at Suzuki, Aleix Espargaro at Aprilia, Bradley Smith and Pol Espargaro at KTM - plus the first official MotoGP laps for rookies Alex Rins, Johann Zarco, Sam Lowes and Jonas Folger.

The 2017 racing season is scheduled to begin at Losail on the evening of March 26.