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[bbc.reporter]

@azguard. You are right. There is already some news that Vettel is disappointed with the Ferrari team's boss, Maurizio Arrivabene and technical director, Mattia Binotto. Some commentators think that they are afraid of making risks because they might lose their jobs or maybe the were ordered to take safer steps in development. Maybe that is why James Allison left the team?

but where will then Vettel go?
In what team if this comes try, true is that ferrari is only shadow I must say from last big era I mean on Schumacher era when they dominate

You are right. Vettel has no where to go except to stay in Ferrari and help improve the team. A better option for them would be to get a new team principal and a new technical director. Maybe Ferrari should try to negotiate a deal for Ross Brawn's return. That would surely make the fans very happy. I know I would.

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Sorry about little delay MotoGP qualifying result

1.   Marc Marquez   ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   1m 30.189s [Lap 7/8]   325km/h (Top Speed)
2.   Cal Crutchlow   GBR LCR Honda (RC213V)   1m 30.981s +0.792s   [8/8]   327km/h
3.   Pol Espargaro   ESP Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)   1m 31.107s +0.918s   [9/9]   326km/h
4.   Aleix Espargaro   ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   1m 31.673s +1.484s   [9/9]   321km/h
5.   Jack Miller   AUS Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)   1m 31.754s +1.565s   [8/8]   325km/h
6.   Danilo Petrucci   ITA Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15)   1m 32.420s +2.231s   [8/8]   322km/h
7.   Nicky Hayden   USA Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   1m 32.944s +2.755s   [8/8]   319km/h
8.   Stefan Bradl   GER Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   1m 33.015s +2.826s   [8/8]   320km/h
9.   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP)   1m 33.090s +2.901s   [4/7]   330km/h
10.   Hector Barbera   ESP Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP)   1m 33.914s +3.725s   [5/9]   333km/h
11.   Scott Redding   GBR Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15)   1m 34.682s +4.493s   [3/7]   322km/h
12.   Jorge Lorenzo   ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   1m 36.840s +6.651s   [8/9]   320km/h
13.   Maverick Viñales   ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   1m 40.744s 310km/h   
14.   Bradley Smith   GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)   1m 41.129s 299km/h   
15.   Valentino Rossi   ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   1m 41.368s 308km/h   
16.   Eugene Laverty   IRL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2)   1m 41.532s 301km/h   
17.   Yonny Hernandez   COL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2)   1m 41.766s 306km/h   
18.   Alvaro Bautista   ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   1m 41.850s 297km/h   
19.   Mike Jones   AUS Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2)   1m 42.261s 296km/h   
20.   Loris Baz   FRA Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2)   1m 43.128s 303km/h   
21.   Tito Rabat   ESP Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)*   1m 44.096s 292km/h

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Formula 1 qualifying result

1. Lewis Hamilton   GBR Mercedes-Mercedes   1m 34.999s
2. Nico Rosberg   GER Mercedes-Mercedes   1m 35.215s
3. Daniel Ricciardo   AUS Red Bull-TAG Heuer   1m 35.509s
4. Max Verstappen NED Red Bull-TAG Heuer   1m 35.747s
5. Kimi Raikkonen   FIN Ferrari-Ferrari   1m 36.131s
6. Sebastian Vettel   GER Ferrari-Ferrari   1m 36.358s
7. Nico Hulkenberg   GER Force India-Mercedes   1m 36.628s
8. Valtteri Bottas   FIN Williams-Mercedes   1m 37.116s
9. Felipe Massa   BRZ Williams-Mercedes   1m 37.269s
10. Carlos Sainz Jr   ESP Toro Rosso-Ferrari   1m 37.326s
11. Sergio Perez   MEX Force India-Mercedes   1m 37.353s
12. Fernando Alonso   ESP McLaren-Honda   1m 37.417s
13. Daniil Kvyat   RUS Toro Rosso-Ferrari   1m 37.480s
14. Esteban Gutierrez MEX Haas-Ferrari   1m 37.773s
15. Jolyon Palmer   GBR Renault-Renault   1m 37.935s
16. Marcus Ericsson   SWE Sauber-Ferrari   1m 39.356s
17. Romain Grosjean FRA Haas-Ferrari   1m 38.308s
18. Kevin Magnussen   DEN Renault-Renault   1m 38.317s
19. Jenson Button   GBR McLaren-Honda   1m 38.327s
20. Pascal Wehrlein GER MRT-Mercedes   1m 38.548s
21. Felipe Nasr   BRZ Sauber-Ferrari   1m 38.583s
22. Esteban Ocon   FRA MRT-Mercedes   1m 38.806s

[Dux2K]

Think that  in tomorrow's race in formula one one of red bull drivers will win the race i have some feeling about it i think to place bet onone of them to win

[Dux2K]

MotoGP was surprise is this chance now for rossi hard to say with marques out in race rossi finished 2nd and he lower the gap between  two of them. Was this needed for rossi yes also hire performance from Crutchlow and congrats on winning

[cicciobtc]

MotoGP was surprise is this chance now for rossi hard to say with marques out in race rossi finished 2nd and he lower the gap between  two of them. Was this needed for rossi yes also hire performance from Crutchlow and congrats on winning

great comeback of Valentino Rossi from fifteenth place to second place, he has dedicated the podium to Simoncelli died on the track 5 years ago

[tokeweed]

I think the best thing that could happen for the fans is for Rosberg's engine to bog down and for Hamilton to win the race.  . That would surely get things interesting again as far as the driver's championship is concerned.  And more headaches for the German.  

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MotoGP race result

1.   Cal Crutchlow   GBR LCR Honda (RC213V) 40m 48.543s
2.   Valentino Rossi   ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 40m 52.761s
3.   Maverick Viñales   ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 40m 53.852s
4.   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP) 40m 57.700s
5.   Pol Espargaro   ESP Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 41m 2.842s
6.   Jorge Lorenzo   ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 41m 8.668s
7.   Scott Redding   GBR Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15) 41m 16.912s
8.   Bradley Smith   GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 41m 17.324s
9.   Danilo Petrucci   ITA Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15) 41m 17.335s
10.   Jack Miller   AUS Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V) 41m 17.358s
11.   Stefan Bradl   GER Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 41m 20.352s
12.   Alvaro Bautista   ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 41m 36.277s
13.   Yonny Hernandez   COL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2) 41m 36.292s
14.   Eugene Laverty   IRL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2) 41m 42.854s
15.   Mike Jones   AUS Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2) 41m 44.418s
16.   Tito Rabat   ESP Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* 41m 54.938s
17.   Nicky Hayden   USA Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 42m 11.147s
Hector Barbera   ESP Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP) DNF
Aleix Espargaro   ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) DNF
Marc Marquez   ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) DNF
Loris Baz   FRA Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2) DNF

[zend7]

Today looks like we can make a good parlay out of the Mercedeses and win big time if there is some sportsbook that allow it as directbet.eu doesn't allow it.

What I had in mind was a combination of 4 bets which bring the odds about 3.15 or a bit more. Specifically these bets were , First lap leader Hamilton 1.77, Hamilton in podium 1.23, Rosberg in Podium 1.27 and mercedes winning car 1.15.

I am still trying to find a specific sportsbook who accepts such parlay but in the bitcoin world it looks like impossible for now.

[marioantonini]

Today looks like we can make a good parlay out of the Mercedeses and win big time if there is some sportsbook that allow it as directbet.eu doesn't allow it.

What I had in mind was a combination of 4 bets which bring the odds about 3.15 or a bit more. Specifically these bets were , First lap leader Hamilton 1.77, Hamilton in podium 1.23, Rosberg in Podium 1.27 and mercedes winning car 1.15.

I am still trying to find a specific sportsbook who accepts such parlay but in the bitcoin world it looks like impossible for now.

i don't think any bookmaers accept this bet, i don't have bet in parlay F1, but  in soccer you can't bet in parlay the same events (for example if you bet to chelsea-United over 1,5 can't bet in parlat over 2,5).
i think hamilton and rosberg podium with mercedes win can't is accepted

[cicciobtc]

Who win F1 United States GP?

Lewis Hamilton @1.70
Nico Rosberg @3.60
Daniel Ricciardo @9
Max Verstappen @11
Sebastian Vettel @50
Kimi Raikkonen @50
Nico Hulkenberg @200


Hamilton must win, Rosberg may settle for second place.
 So I feel very good the quote of Hamilton at 1.70

[LTU_btc]

1) Hamilton
2) Rosberg
3) Ricciardo
I'm sad for Ricciardo, he lost 2nd place today due to too early pitstop. And it's minimazed chances for Hamilton to reach Rosberg in championship. Now Hamilton need, that something unrealistic would happen in last 3 races if he wants to win championship,

[Capradina]

1) Hamilton
2) Rosberg
3) Ricciardo
I'm sad for Ricciardo, he lost 2nd place today due to too early pitstop. And it's minimazed chances for Hamilton to reach Rosberg in championship. Now Hamilton need, that something unrealistic would happen in last 3 races if he wants to win championship,

It's not something sad thing friend!!. Because I'm sure ricciardo will become the champion on the next match, because I see ricciardo was indeed more appropriate to get a champion on appeal rosberg or hamilton. so, we just look at the next match. This is something that is not yet final, matches .I'm sure ricciardo will play in a way that is remarkable and will win the next match

[Dux2K]

Race was great again Alonso drive like it was in old days great to see him passing and finish at 5th place
Lewis was good from start to finish only max was bad luck with car and Ferrari mechanic have done it again no words for them

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Full race results for the 18th round of the 2016 Formula 1 World Championship (F1), the United States Grand Prix at the Circuit of the Americas

1. Lewis Hamilton   GBR Mercedes-Mercedes   56 laps / 1h 38m 12.618s
2. Nico Rosberg   GER Mercedes-Mercedes   +4.5s
3. Daniel Ricciardo   AUS Red Bull-TAG Heuer   +19.6s
4. Sebastian Vettel   GER Ferrari-Ferrari   +43.1s
5. Fernando Alonso   ESP McLaren-Honda   +92.5s
6. Carlos Sainz Jr   ESP Toro Rosso-Ferrari   +93.4s
7. Felipe Massa   BRZ Williams-Mercedes   +1 lap
8. Sergio Perez   MEX Force India-Mercedes   +1 lap
9. Jenson Button   GBR McLaren-Honda   +1 lap
10. Romain Grosjean FRA Haas-Ferrari   +1 lap
11. Daniil Kvyat   RUS Toro Rosso-Ferrari   +1 lap
12. Kevin Magnussen   DEN Renault-Renault   +1 lap*
13. Jolyon Palmer   GBR Renault-Renault   +1 lap
14. Marcus Ericsson   SWE Sauber-Ferrari   +1 lap
15. Felipe Nasr   BRZ Sauber-Ferrari   +1 lap
16. Valtteri Bottas   FIN Williams-Mercedes   +1 lap
17. Pascal Wehrlein GER MRT-Mercedes   +1 lap
18. Esteban Ocon   FRA MRT-Mercedes   +2 laps

Not Classified

Rtd. Kimi Raikkonen   FIN Ferrari-Ferrari 38 laps completed
Rtd. Max Verstappen   NED Red Bull-TAG Heuer 28 laps completed
Rtd. Esteban Gutierrez MEX Haas-Ferrari 16 laps completed
Rtd. Nico Hulkenberg   GER Force India-Mercedes 1 lap completed

*Magnussen handed a post-race five-second time penalty for an illegal overtake on Daniil Kvyat

[marioantonini]

Rosberg have really lucky, the red bull can fight for the 2th place, but first Verstappen ko, later Ricciardo change tyre and Rosberg change with Virtual safety car and don't lose time.
Rosberg can end every time second and win the title, Hamilton can hope only to any damage to rosberg for win

[BitcoinSupremo]

Full race results for the 18th round of the 2016 Formula 1 World Championship (F1), the United States Grand Prix at the Circuit of the Americas

1. Lewis Hamilton   GBR Mercedes-Mercedes   56 laps / 1h 38m 12.618s
2. Nico Rosberg   GER Mercedes-Mercedes   +4.5s
3. Daniel Ricciardo   AUS Red Bull-TAG Heuer   +19.6s
4. Sebastian Vettel   GER Ferrari-Ferrari   +43.1s
5. Fernando Alonso   ESP McLaren-Honda   +92.5s
6. Carlos Sainz Jr   ESP Toro Rosso-Ferrari   +93.4s
7. Felipe Massa   BRZ Williams-Mercedes   +1 lap
8. Sergio Perez   MEX Force India-Mercedes   +1 lap
9. Jenson Button   GBR McLaren-Honda   +1 lap
10. Romain Grosjean FRA Haas-Ferrari   +1 lap
11. Daniil Kvyat   RUS Toro Rosso-Ferrari   +1 lap
12. Kevin Magnussen   DEN Renault-Renault   +1 lap*
13. Jolyon Palmer   GBR Renault-Renault   +1 lap
14. Marcus Ericsson   SWE Sauber-Ferrari   +1 lap
15. Felipe Nasr   BRZ Sauber-Ferrari   +1 lap
16. Valtteri Bottas   FIN Williams-Mercedes   +1 lap
17. Pascal Wehrlein GER MRT-Mercedes   +1 lap
18. Esteban Ocon   FRA MRT-Mercedes   +2 laps

Not Classified

Rtd. Kimi Raikkonen   FIN Ferrari-Ferrari 38 laps completed
Rtd. Max Verstappen   NED Red Bull-TAG Heuer 28 laps completed
Rtd. Esteban Gutierrez MEX Haas-Ferrari 16 laps completed
Rtd. Nico Hulkenberg   GER Force India-Mercedes 1 lap completed

*Magnussen handed a post-race five-second time penalty for an illegal overtake on Daniil Kvyat

Impressive Fernando Alonso or it was because Raikkonen and Verstappen were out. Well I cannot say it which was the case, all I can say I am very happy to see McLaren progressing really a lot in a very fast pace. Next year we may see them fight with Ferrari and Red Bull and why not sometimes even against Mercedes. I believe Honda can do this and bring back the beauty to this sport. I don't know about you but I have had enough of Mercedes winning almost every race.

[cicciobtc]

Standing F1:

1)Nico Rosberg  Mercedes    331
2)Lewis Hamilton  Mercedes   305

3)Daniel Ricciardo  Red Bull Racing  227

4)Sebastian Vettel  Ferrari  177
5)Kimi Raikkonen   Ferrari  170
6)Max Verstappen  Red Bull Racing  165

7)Sergio Perez  Force India 84
8)Valtteri Bottas Williams   81

9)Nico Hulkenberg  Force India 54
10)Fernando Alonso McLaren 52
11)Felipe Massa Williams  49


Rosberg has a good advantage of 26 points in three races remaining. He just 2 second places and a third place to become champion.

Interesting the fight for fourth place between Vettel, Raikkonen and Verstappen.

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Impressive Fernando Alonso or it was because Raikkonen and Verstappen were out. Well I cannot say it which was the case, all I can say I am very happy to see McLaren progressing really a lot in a very fast pace. Next year we may see them fight with Ferrari and Red Bull and why not sometimes even against Mercedes. I believe Honda can do this and bring back the beauty to this sport. I don't know about you but I have had enough of Mercedes winning almost every race.

well i hope for that two years have pass and they didnt get anything only 2 5th places both taken by alonso
think that honda wanted to much at start but now progress is seen in good long term
i strongly believe that in next year we will see then once on podium

[tokeweed]

Race was great again Alonso drive like it was in old days great to see him passing and finish at 5th place
Lewis was good from start to finish only max was bad luck with car and Ferrari mechanic have done it again no words for them

Yup surprisingly.  They were not really good at qualifying but on race day they did well.  Even Jenson Button got in the top 10.  I think the new Honda engines are now being used by them.  It would be sad to see Button go and McLaren become contenders again next season.  The McClaren engines might improve drastically next year.

Ross Brawn to Ferrari please.  I mean really..  They need someone to revamp and revitalize the team.