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April 06, 2016, 09:22:49 PM
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invest your bitcoins to borrowers most of the time you can make profit but here you have to ask for valid collateral
which has to be 120% or more than the loan. If you are ready to take the plunge then go for it.

120% is not enough now. The price of the collateral changes very fast. To be secure, you need at least 140%.

What in the world are you saying ? The point of collateral is to use it to secure yourself from being crossed over, so everything above 100 is
just extra profit in the case where it must be liquidated. 120% is more than enough. Anyways borrowing bitcoins is very tricky bussiness, and is not for everyone.
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April 07, 2016, 10:42:48 AM
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invest your bitcoins to borrowers most of the time you can make profit but here you have to ask for valid collateral
which has to be 120% or more than the loan. If you are ready to take the plunge then go for it.

120% is not enough now. The price of the collateral changes very fast. To be secure, you need at least 140%.

What in the world are you saying ? The point of collateral is to use it to secure yourself from being crossed over, so everything above 100 is
just extra profit in the case where it must be liquidated. 120% is more than enough. Anyways borrowing bitcoins is very tricky bussiness, and is not for everyone.
But I believe if we lend bitcoins with proper collateral with excess value then both borrowers and lenders will depend on each other. I guess, lending must be a smartest way to make our bitcoins grow. But, needs to be done with care and dedication to avoid any possible scam.

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April 07, 2016, 01:47:26 PM
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First Global Credit is a service provider that allows you to buy or short stock, ETFs,(5:1 leverage)  metal or futures (1:1)markets. Currently over 250 choices using your BTC as collateral. Only liquid markets so you can get in and out easily. The other benefit is that you can move your bitcoin collateral into fiat and back into bitcoin (2:1 leverage), all the time you are trading live markets.
It is a real market position with underlying trades in the exchange. First Global makes money if you make money. There is a clear cost structure, no spread where we make more money by trading against our customers.
The company is running a competition right now with live bitcoin account prizes. But the company has been going since 2014 and has Jon Matonis (Bitcoin Foundation Pres) on the board.
We can also add markets you may want to trade if they are liquid and meet certain risk criteria.
New services coming for bitcoin investment.
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April 07, 2016, 05:07:35 PM
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invest your bitcoins to borrowers most of the time you can make profit but here you have to ask for valid collateral
which has to be 120% or more than the loan. If you are ready to take the plunge then go for it.

120% is not enough now. The price of the collateral changes very fast. To be secure, you need at least 140%.

What in the world are you saying ? The point of collateral is to use it to secure yourself from being crossed over, so everything above 100 is
just extra profit in the case where it must be liquidated. 120% is more than enough. Anyways borrowing bitcoins is very tricky bussiness, and is not for everyone.
But I believe if we lend bitcoins with proper collateral with excess value then both borrowers and lenders will depend on each other. I guess, lending must be a smartest way to make our bitcoins grow. But, needs to be done with care and dedication to avoid any possible scam.

Bitcoin bitcoin has always been risky, many people has been scammed and they lost their money in lending, never trust anyone without a valid collateral otherwise you can get doomed so quickly.
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April 08, 2016, 11:43:43 AM
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Investments for your bitcoin can generally be separated into several categories.

(1) High risk, high return short-term trading strategy ("buy low, sell high"): But can you read the market well enough to generate the best trading strategy? For every buyer of a coin, there is a seller, so who is doing it wrong?
(2) Moderate risk, moderate return portfolio investment strategy e.g. Keza (http://www.getkeza.com) as an investment platform.  But you need to invest time in selecting the right investment portfolios based on the composition, underlying beta and future outlook.
(3) Low risk, low return secured lending strategy (collateralised lending).  But need to vet borrowers based on past track record too.

Avoid HYIP, Ponzi schemes, and fanciful, unrealistic promises.

http://themerkle.com/bitcoin-investment-startup-keza-unveils-ios-beta-app/
https://www.producthunt.com/tech/keza
http://getkeza.com/ (It's free to apply for a Keza account)
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April 08, 2016, 12:02:13 PM
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Investments for your bitcoin can generally be separated into several categories.

(1) High risk, high return short-term trading strategy ("buy low, sell high"): But can you read the market well enough to generate the best trading strategy? For every buyer of a coin, there is a seller, so who is doing it wrong?
(2) Moderate risk, moderate return portfolio investment strategy e.g. Keza (http://www.getkeza.com) as an investment platform.  But you need to invest time in selecting the right investment portfolios based on the composition, underlying beta and future outlook.
(3) Low risk, low return secured lending strategy (collateralised lending).  But need to vet borrowers based on past track record too.

Avoid HYIP, Ponzi schemes, and fanciful, unrealistic promises.

http://themerkle.com/bitcoin-investment-startup-keza-unveils-ios-beta-app/
https://www.producthunt.com/tech/keza
http://getkeza.com/ (It's free to apply for a Keza account)
So basically you are saying that critical thought needs to be applied to any investment strategy? Your reasoning is absolutely sound but not really the point. The key, I think, is not looking for one good place to invest your bitcoin but looking at your criteria for investment. For instance, I need liquidity or I cannot tolerate losing principal. Then look to split your holdings over a variety of portals, also taking into account counterparty risk!
Getkeza might be a part of that strategy. Taking a position in gold futures, or Google, or Betfair or S&P Futures or Tesla on www.firstglobalcredit.com website might also be a sound addition to the portfolio. FGC also gives you the ability to move the bitcoin securing the trades in and out of fiat at the same time giving 2 bites of the 'profit apple'. That could also be a useful part of the strategy as well?  As might bitbond or BTCJam, especially while the bitcoin price is trading in a range therefore limiting the problem of having repayments being greatly out of kilter with the initial debt profile. I think liquidity is a key issue for many investors and having access to over 250 mainstream markets like the firstglobalcredit platform provides might be very helpful.
Getkeza is a cool concept however.

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April 09, 2016, 10:34:38 AM
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Is there somewhere complete list of all proven exchanges?
We could organized voting for the best exchange, or something like that.
No doubt Bittrex and Poloniex, are the best ones, but i wonder how good are C CEX, Bleutrade, Yobit and how they are in comparison, with newer exchanges. I believe first 10 places are very interesting for everybody.. Cool
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April 09, 2016, 10:52:25 AM
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Investments for your bitcoin can generally be separated into several categories.

(1) High risk, high return short-term trading strategy ("buy low, sell high"): But can you read the market well enough to generate the best trading strategy? For every buyer of a coin, there is a seller, so who is doing it wrong?
(2) Moderate risk, moderate return portfolio investment strategy e.g. Keza (http://www.getkeza.com) as an investment platform.  But you need to invest time in selecting the right investment portfolios based on the composition, underlying beta and future outlook.
(3) Low risk, low return secured lending strategy (collateralised lending).  But need to vet borrowers based on past track record too.

Avoid HYIP, Ponzi schemes, and fanciful, unrealistic promises.

http://themerkle.com/bitcoin-investment-startup-keza-unveils-ios-beta-app/
https://www.producthunt.com/tech/keza
http://getkeza.com/ (It's free to apply for a Keza account)

Keza looks interesting. Where's the save-up and start your own business kind of investment here?

Is there somewhere complete list of all proven exchanges?
We could organized voting for the best exchange, or something like that.
No doubt Bittrex and Poloniex, are the best ones, but i wonder how good are C CEX, Bleutrade, Yobit and how they are in comparison, with newer exchanges. I believe first 10 places are very interesting for everybody.. Cool

No need, it's only BittrEX and Polo that would dominate. The other exchanges have only a fraction of their volumes.

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April 10, 2016, 06:57:57 AM
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Is there somewhere complete list of all proven exchanges?
We could organized voting for the best exchange, or something like that.
No doubt Bittrex and Poloniex, are the best ones, but i wonder how good are C CEX, Bleutrade, Yobit and how they are in comparison, with newer exchanges. I believe first 10 places are very interesting for everybody.. Cool

Why do you want to compare when you know the best exchanges in the market you can really rely upon???
But remember, never put your coins on any exchange even if it's the most trusted ones, because we really don't know the future as to what might happen and when...

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April 11, 2016, 06:22:43 PM
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Yes this is why i need several exchanges, because diversity is alway good, and you can do arbitrage.Every exchange have something unique and special. Just compare YOBIT, BITTREX, C-CEX. Conclusions are clear, and competition is most welcomed.
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Is there somewhere complete list of all proven exchanges?
We could organized voting for the best exchange, or something like that.
No doubt Bittrex and Poloniex, are the best ones, but i wonder how good are C CEX, Bleutrade, Yobit and how they are in comparison, with newer exchanges. I believe first 10 places are very interesting for everybody.. Cool
compare to anything, any exchanges have their respective advantages in terms of transaction costs, security and exchanges above already have a broad market.
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April 12, 2016, 03:47:30 PM
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I am very security councious. So I will keep most of my coins in the cold wallet. I will trade a small amount.


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April 12, 2016, 05:47:48 PM
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I am very security councious. So I will keep most of my coins in the cold wallet. I will trade a small amount.

Being security conscious and securing yourself is good, but be careful when trading, trading needs much experience to earn some profit and stay away from loss, if someone has no experience then trading can do the work of gambling in such cases, the person may don't lose all he invested but he would surely get a loss in it.
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I am very security councious. So I will keep most of my coins in the cold wallet. I will trade a small amount.

That is actually the best way.. To secure your wallet and store your coins and wait until the price goes high and then sell them and count the profit.
Better then investing them anywhere as no place is 100% safe now a days, we can't take risks of investing our coins to any website, and if we do that then we must do some research before doing it so that we don't face a loss.
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April 13, 2016, 09:00:40 PM
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invest your bitcoins to borrowers most of the time you can make profit but here you have to ask for valid collateral
which has to be 120% or more than the loan. If you are ready to take the plunge then go for it.

120% is not enough now. The price of the collateral changes very fast. To be secure, you need at least 140%.

What in the world are you saying ? The point of collateral is to use it to secure yourself from being crossed over, so everything above 100 is
just extra profit in the case where it must be liquidated. 120% is more than enough. Anyways borrowing bitcoins is very tricky bussiness, and is not for everyone.
But I believe if we lend bitcoins with proper collateral with excess value then both borrowers and lenders will depend on each other. I guess, lending must be a smartest way to make our bitcoins grow. But, needs to be done with care and dedication to avoid any possible scam.
But I think it is a risk, a risk for one of the party, suppose if the price of the bitcoin increases then the person who has got the loan will be liable to pay more what he has got(if calculated in dollar as standard), while if the price decrease the payer will get less (if calculated in dollar as standard)
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April 14, 2016, 04:42:11 AM
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I wonder if maybe investing in a local or regional BTC ATM outfit might work?  The "BTMs" in my city now charge a breathtaking 14% premium over BTC price (I do know that they have many expenses to cover, and perhaps not all that many people using them now).

I have touched base with a principal at one of these companies, perhaps an investment in loaning them money (to buy more BTMs) or even taking an equity stake in their company.
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April 14, 2016, 05:20:16 AM
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Don't try investing your bitcoin, its risky. If you want to grow your bitcoin, just find an easy way without risking your bitcoin.
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April 14, 2016, 09:25:45 AM
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Don't try investing your bitcoin, its risky. If you want to grow your bitcoin, just find an easy way without risking your bitcoin.

Investing anywhere without any research or searching history of that platform will obviously be risky for the investor.
If someone wants to invest some money somewhere then first of all just find out the history of it and see if it has positive results.
If it has positive results then you may go for it, but if it has some negative results as well and it is suspicious then don't invest otherwise you may lose your money.
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April 14, 2016, 09:48:28 AM
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Don't try investing your bitcoin, its risky. If you want to grow your bitcoin, just find an easy way without risking your bitcoin.

And what woud that be? As far as I know there is no easy and no risky way to grow the Bitcoin. But if you know some, please share with us.

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April 14, 2016, 12:26:23 PM
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Don't try investing your bitcoin, its risky. If you want to grow your bitcoin, just find an easy way without risking your bitcoin.

And what woud that be? As far as I know there is no easy and no risky way to grow the Bitcoin. But if you know some, please share with us.
It is not that bad to invest in your Bitcoin, if Bitcoin is getting more popular and also that the value will be more than there is no problem to do it and you will have some profit.
But you need to know also that it can be risky indeed if the value is going to reduce.
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