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March 16, 2016, 04:23:28 PM
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Show me one useful dapp that is not in beta that your average person on the street can use. Provide reasons why they would use a dapp instead of a regular app say a ipad.
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March 16, 2016, 04:36:31 PM
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Show me one useful dapp that is not in beta that your average person on the street can use. Provide reasons why they would use a dapp instead of a regular app say a ipad.
The tech itself has ONLY just come out of BETA!! Your very same question was similarly asked in the 90's about the Internet. Read the white and yellow papers engage your brain and begin to imagine the possibilities.

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March 16, 2016, 04:41:01 PM
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Show me one useful dapp that is not in beta that your average person on the street can use. Provide reasons why they would use a dapp instead of a regular app say a ipad.

That's the wrong question to ask.  It's not what can you do with the VM, it's how much load capacity will the system have (slim to none), and do they even have a viable consensus system (no - best case permissioned ledger, worst case none at all).

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March 17, 2016, 04:47:46 AM
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Show me one useful dapp that is not in beta that your average person on the street can use. Provide reasons why they would use a dapp instead of a regular app say a ipad.
The tech itself has ONLY just come out of BETA!! Your very same question was similarly asked in the 90's about the Internet. Read the white and yellow papers engage your brain and begin to imagine the possibilities.

Thats exactly the problem with ether followers too much "Think about the possibilities" and not enough "Hey look what i built with ether tech". Until ether proves that it can build a useful dapp and be useful to mainstream society it will remain a shitcoin to me.
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March 17, 2016, 04:48:22 AM
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Show me one useful dapp that is not in beta that your average person on the street can use. Provide reasons why they would use a dapp instead of a regular app say a ipad.

That's the wrong question to ask.  It's not what can you do with the VM, it's how much load capacity will the system have (slim to none), and do they even have a viable consensus system (no - best case permissioned ledger, worst case none at all).

So in other words its all speculation no actual achievements.
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March 17, 2016, 10:49:27 AM
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I bet youre the type that appreciates LTC cuz "silver to bitcoin gold",correct?
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March 17, 2016, 10:51:32 AM
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Venture capitalists drank the Dapp Koolaid.

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March 17, 2016, 12:25:22 PM
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Show me one useful dapp that is not in beta that your average person on the street can use. Provide reasons why they would use a dapp instead of a regular app say a ipad.
The tech itself has ONLY just come out of BETA!! Your very same question was similarly asked in the 90's about the Internet. Read the white and yellow papers engage your brain and begin to imagine the possibilities.

Everything I imagine can be done cheaply with conventional computing power.

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March 17, 2016, 12:29:27 PM
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I bet youre the type that appreciates LTC cuz "silver to bitcoin gold",correct?

I appreciate LTC because scrypt was a novel concept with real world use.

I appreciate namecoin because it showed decentralized secure DNS is possible.

I don't hold either - LTC was too early, but the blockchain technology is still used.

The utility of namecoin security can largely be achieved with DNSSEC without needing a local blockchain.

I don't appreciate ether because I don't see any utility for it, it may be a novel idea but I'm not sure it even properly works.

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March 17, 2016, 12:38:41 PM
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You appreciate LTC because it was a copycat of BTC?It has no use since there is no need for number 2.As you can see,btc is a niche "currency" or "store of value" so there is no place for a second wannabe fancoin.As long as its very innovative,like eth and maybe few others,theres no room for it,we got BTC for that purpose.
Edit: so far they delivered everything they promised, so for that reason i dont think its a scam.It may not succeed (nobody know,alot of variables),but no coin there actually succeded,maybe except for btc because of first runner's advantage.
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March 17, 2016, 12:45:09 PM
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You appreciate LTC because it was a copycat of BTC?It has no use since there is no need for number 2.

There is a need for a number 2.

If there were several different coins with the same utility as bitcoin, we wouldn't be having a block size flamefest right now.

Like Linux distributions. If like me you like RPM, you use RHEL or SuSE or Fedora.
If you like debian packages you use Debian or Mint.
If you don't value privacy and don't mind Amazon tracking you by default you use Ubuntu (yeah yeah I hear they fixed that...)

Competition is good for the market, monopoly is not.

Bitcoin for all practical purposes has a monopoly. That's why people are fighting over who controls it. Monopolies have a lot of power.

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March 17, 2016, 03:19:47 PM
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You appreciate LTC because it was a copycat of BTC?It has no use since there is no need for number 2.

There is a need for a number 2.

If there were several different coins with the same utility as bitcoin, we wouldn't be having a block size flamefest right now.

Like Linux distributions. If like me you like RPM, you use RHEL or SuSE or Fedora.
If you like debian packages you use Debian or Mint.
If you don't value privacy and don't mind Amazon tracking you by default you use Ubuntu (yeah yeah I hear they fixed that...)

Competition is good for the market, monopoly is not.

Bitcoin for all practical purposes has a monopoly. That's why people are fighting over who controls it. Monopolies have a lot of power.

Finally someone who gets it. I am tired of people saying we dont need altcoins. If bitcoin is the only coin in the future we will actually have a worse financial system than we have now, bitcoin is huge and it is entirely possible that at some point in the future miners could get greedy or bitcoin could be attacked. In a case like this people will need another coin they can transfer to. Bottom line it never hurts to have alternatives to fall back on if something goes wrong down the line.
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March 17, 2016, 03:21:07 PM
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I bet youre the type that appreciates LTC cuz "silver to bitcoin gold",correct?

I prefer stability over features yes.
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March 17, 2016, 03:40:20 PM
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You appreciate LTC because it was a copycat of BTC?It has no use since there is no need for number 2.

There is a need for a number 2.

If there were several different coins with the same utility as bitcoin, we wouldn't be having a block size flamefest right now.

Like Linux distributions. If like me you like RPM, you use RHEL or SuSE or Fedora.
If you like debian packages you use Debian or Mint.
If you don't value privacy and don't mind Amazon tracking you by default you use Ubuntu (yeah yeah I hear they fixed that...)

Competition is good for the market, monopoly is not.

Bitcoin for all practical purposes has a monopoly. That's why people are fighting over who controls it. Monopolies have a lot of power.

Finally someone who gets it. I am tired of people saying we dont need altcoins. If bitcoin is the only coin in the future we will actually have a worse financial system than we have now, bitcoin is huge and it is entirely possible that at some point in the future miners could get greedy or bitcoin could be attacked. In a case like this people will need another coin they can transfer to. Bottom line it never hurts to have alternatives to fall back on if something goes wrong down the line.

Yes competition is good. Bitcoin users however stick to btc. probably because they see nothing to ETH but a scam attempt considering most of them are.  What do ETH offer by the way?

Lets say Ubuntu is bitcoin after all its the most used derivative, easy to use, newbie can just use the graphical synaptic manager to install. no command line knowledge needed and so on..

so which is eth?

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March 19, 2016, 04:25:00 PM
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I bet youre the type that appreciates LTC cuz "silver to bitcoin gold",correct?

I prefer stability over features yes.
"stability" in crypto world?Are you kidding me ?Demand is small while supply is huge,if 1 big whale decide to dump everything it'll kill the coin and it would be unlikely to recover since it has no potential because it lacks features.And yes any big dump no matter the crypto can bring it to its knees,but features/potential to develop it is what keeps them afloat,not a motto "we're silver to bitcoin's gold".That is extremely naive ,try to be smart and use logic people,costs nothing.Yes,any crypto out there is good for speculation,but thats what theyre about.99.99% have no potential to develop.
The only reason LTC price is stable and follows btc price is because of chinese mining cartels,they own both BTC and LTC thanks to asics and most likely free electricity.
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March 19, 2016, 08:47:03 PM
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March 19, 2016, 09:26:56 PM
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Desperate

That would be those using ETH to steal speculators lunch money.

Others of us have more serious things to work on that could actually benefit society.

Smart contracts won't work. We've covered that in great detail in the Ethereum Paradox thread. No one has refuted this. No one. Vitalik is well aware of my challenge and has not rebutted me.

Also:

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Btw, proof-of-stake will never scale out user adoption, because it is a vested interest paradigm, and thus will be destroyed by its stake holders. No stake holder (in any context or business model) allows a competitor to profit. Only permissionless, decentralized systems scale.

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March 19, 2016, 09:59:52 PM
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Sliced bread is a scam and is shit. You need to learn to bake your own bread, nothing beats the smell or taste of a freshly baked loaf of homemade bread. An un-sliced loaf will also keep fresh a lot longer and if you use whole wheat is probably a heck of a lot more nutritious for you. At minimum it isn't full of preservatives and you know exactly what went into it.

I cut whatever sized slice meets my needs at the moment. For a sandwich, slightly thicker slices hold up better. For breakfast toast, slightly thinner slices work well. With a bowl of soup, a rather large thick cut slice, especially from one of the ends, is perfect.

Anyway sliced bread is clearly over-rated
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March 19, 2016, 10:10:31 PM
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Show me one useful dapp that is not in beta that your average person on the street can use. Provide reasons why they would use a dapp instead of a regular app say a ipad.
The tech itself has ONLY just come out of BETA!! Your very same question was similarly asked in the 90's about the Internet. Read the white and yellow papers engage your brain and begin to imagine the possibilities.

FAIL ..EPIC fucking FAIL !

- App's are not new.

- No the same question was not asked in the 90's because App's was not a thing yet.

- Comparison to the Internet is even more stupid that comparing ETH to Bitcoin.

- White papers are a stolen term from a regulated market with Laws and don't apply here.
  Saying that market jargon implies some legitimacy when their is none.
  What is stopping me from creating a Pyramid scheme coin and making a white paper for it ?

- He did engage his brain and asked the same question i have a couple times already.
  I think it's a great question with no real answer yet.

- Why do we need or should expect "DAPP's" to be used by the larger general masses ?

The technical response is "imagine the possibilities"

That is so bad of an answer i really hope you are embarrassed for *trying* to sound smart. (with a snotty tone)

Minecahe you have not said one thing here that is true, honest, fair or vaguely smart.
You might want to abandon your little ETH spamming Noob account here and then
log into one of your others.. or start yet ANOTHER one.

And ETH team i REALLY hope you did not hire this guy to spam here..
If you did ?
..get a refund  Cheesy

I have heard guys say in crypto soooooo many times that "marketers" are more important than dev's.
How is that marketing degree workin' out for ya shill's ?

ya uhh i went too college so i can post spam / hype messages on an internet message board.. for a scam coin. ROFL

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March 19, 2016, 10:16:39 PM
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I bet youre the type that appreciates LTC cuz "silver to bitcoin gold",correct?

Funny you are the only guy i have seen even say that and you acused me of that too..

Know what ? i went and counted and of your 45 mouthy NOOB account comments
you have said that catch phrase accusing people with it 8 times !

It's odd that your are so utterly obsessed with repeating that.. care to explain ?

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