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January 31, 2013, 05:04:03 AM
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I don't have the copier, so I can't put it in the copier to test it. It appears to be very clean, and doesn't "look" as though it has been used, but I didn't know if there was any test I could do on it, to determine for sure whether it has been used or not.



This is the cartridge I have.


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January 31, 2013, 05:17:29 AM
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look at the price

you ALWAYS get what you pay for.

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January 31, 2013, 05:21:07 AM
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If it is using the word Canon on it and doesn't come sealed in a Canon retail box with hologram it is at best a fake and at worst a used fake.

Note I got no problem with off brand toner but Canon is a trademark of Canon so there is an honest off brand manufacturer calling their product "Canon L50 compatible" and then there are the dishonest ones trying to pass theirs off as a genuine Canon (or HP or xyz) part.  If you can't trust them enough to be honest with the labelling who knows what else they are faking. I mean it is very easy to design a toner cartridge which has 1/4th the toner (and more plastic makes it weight about right) so even new it could produce less pages then a used one would.
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January 31, 2013, 05:21:41 AM
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look at the price

you ALWAYS get what you pay for.

I'm selling it.  And need to know what to make people pay for Smiley  

I purchased it (along with a ton of other stuff) at a bankruptcy sale of an office.  So I don't know if it was used or not.  The packaging it was in was a silver wrapper you would expect it to come in, but it was open.  

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January 31, 2013, 05:22:11 AM
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If it is using the word Canon on it and doesn't come sealed in a Canon retail box with hologram it is at best a fake and at worst a used fake.

Note I got no problem with off brand toner but Canon is a trademark of Canon so there is an honest off brand manufacturer calling their product "Canon L50 compatible" and then there are the dishonest ones trying to pass theirs off as a genuine Canon (or HP or xyz) part.  If you can't trust them enough to be honest with the labelling who knows what else they are faking. I mean it is very easy to design a toner cartridge which has 1/4th the toner (and more plastic makes it weight about right) so even new it could produce less pages then a used one would.

I should have been more clear in my original post on how I came into possession of it.  

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January 31, 2013, 05:25:13 AM
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Yeah looking at the post 2 up that does make it tough.  My guess is that the bankrupt company isn't trying to pull a scam.  They likely wouldn't remove the toner until it was used completed and then probably wouldn't hang on to it.  If it was a printer cart I would say check the printer to see if it has a MICR toner cart installed.  That would indicate they probably started printing checks at one time and the "spare" toner is probably the original and partially used.

Being a copier that doesn't apply so my guess is it is new.  No real way to tell, not without access to a compatible copier.  The higher end toner carts have microchip so loading it into the correct copier should show the number of copies made (somewhere in the setup menus Smiley ).

BTW: My first job in IT was tech support for Cannon. 
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January 31, 2013, 05:30:17 AM
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Yeah looking at the post 2 up that does make it tough.  My guess is that the bankrupt company isn't trying to pull a scam.  They likely wouldn't remove the toner until it was used completed and then probably wouldn't hang on to it.  If it was a printer cart I would say check the printer to see if it has a MICR toner cart installed.  That would indicate they probably started printing checks at one time and the "spare" toner is probably the original and partially used.

Being a copier that doesn't apply so my guess is it is new.  No real way to tell, not without access to a compatible copier.  The higher end toner carts have microchip so loading it into the correct copier should show the number of copies made (somewhere in the setup menus Smiley ).

BTW: My first job in IT was tech support for Cannon. 

That's what I was worried about.  It weighs 2lbs 12.6oz.  I'll try to find the weight online of a new cartridge, but I doubt I'll be able to find that. 


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January 31, 2013, 10:08:19 AM
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If it is new and unused then it should have a tear out strip of plastic that unseals the toner compartment.

If that's not there, then it's highly likely to have been used.

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January 31, 2013, 01:18:55 PM
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I purchased it (along with a ton of other stuff) at a bankruptcy sale of an office.  So I don't know if it was used or not.  The packaging it was in was a silver wrapper you would expect it to come in, but it was open. 

It could even be an empty that was waiting to be refilled or recycled. A lot of times liquidation companies will bring crap in to sell at liquidation or estate sales that wasn't even from the company, even scummier ones will sell their knock-off chinese vases and such at estates sales since dummies think it might be an antique.

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