WTB In Hand Avalon ASIC

[alexeft]

option: find another 20K and invest in a BFL MiniRig @ 1500 GH/s.

comparatively, your 10K investment fetches you a third of a MiniRig (or 500GH/s) vs. Avalon's 66 GH/s... but it's your cash..

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

That's wise. Perhaps he'd better buy some GPus 

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[scyth3]

Bump, still interested.

[Dalkore]

Bump, still interested.

I bet you are.  Isn't going to happen though unless you are paying a huge and I mean huge premium.

[scyth3]

I bet you are.  Isn't going to happen though unless you are paying a huge and I mean huge premium.

Well, I have not gotten any real offers. I think that is due to the fact that no one really has one yet. My offer still stands at $10,000 for anyone that might be interested. 

[Dalkore]

I bet you are.  Isn't going to happen though unless you are paying a huge and I mean huge premium.

Well, I have not gotten any real offers. I think that is due to the fact that no one really has one yet. My offer still stands at $10,000 for anyone that might be interested. 

Too low, that is only $250 BTC @ ($40/usd).  They went for BTC100 at the time so you are only offering a $4,000 dollar premium over their cost.  I think you will find with where Bitcoins are going, you will need to offer more, like $15-20K.

[scyth3]

Too low, that is only $250 BTC @ ($40/usd).  They went for BTC100 at the time so you are only offering a $4,000 dollar premium over their cost.  I think you will find with where Bitcoins are going, you will need to offer more, like $15-20K.

The difficulty should skyrocket when the bulk of the orders ship. Also is your math off or is it me?

[Littleshop]

Too low, that is only $250 BTC @ ($40/usd).  They went for BTC100 at the time so you are only offering a $4,000 dollar premium over their cost.  I think you will find with where Bitcoins are going, you will need to offer more, like $15-20K.

The difficulty should skyrocket when the bulk of the orders ship. Also is your math off or is it me?

Well in two weeks an IN HAND A.A. will produce $4400.  In two more weeks it might do $3500.  Two weeks after that maybe $2500.  You are only offering around six weeks revenue.  Most people are going to want more then that.

[Dalkore]

Too low, that is only $250 BTC @ ($40/usd).  They went for BTC100 at the time so you are only offering a $4,000 dollar premium over their cost.  I think you will find with where Bitcoins are going, you will need to offer more, like $15-20K.

The difficulty should skyrocket when the bulk of the orders ship. Also is your math off or is it me?

Well in two weeks an IN HAND A.A. will produce $4400.  In two more weeks it might do $3500.  Two weeks after that maybe $2500.  You are only offering around six weeks revenue.  Most people are going to want more then that.

And you can't forget that we don't know if the price is going higher. 

[scyth3]

And you can't forget that we don't know if the price is going higher. 

BTC price going up is uncertain, but difficulty going up is certain.

[Dalkore]

And you can't forget that we don't know if the price is going higher. 

BTC price going up is uncertain, but difficulty going up is certain.

The problem is the most people believe in the scenario I support. 

[Littleshop]

And you can't forget that we don't know if the price is going higher. 

BTC price going up is uncertain, but difficulty going up is certain.

It might be, but you are talking about an IN HAND unit.  We know what the difficulty is now and we can estimate reasonably accurately what it is in the next cycle. 

[Dalkore]

And you can't forget that we don't know if the price is going higher. 

BTC price going up is uncertain, but difficulty going up is certain.

It might be, but you are talking about an IN HAND unit.  We know what the difficulty is now and we can estimate reasonably accurately what it is in the next cycle. 

^^^^^  This

[scyth3]

Seems like there is no winning this argument for me. When I first made my offer, someone calls me a bluffer. Now after BTC price skyrockets, my offer has become a lowball. I am OBO for anyone that has one in-hand to sell.

[ironcross360]

Well Ill go to a chineese manufacterer and sell you a fake Avalon LOL

[ProfMac]

Seems like there is no winning this argument for me. When I first made my offer, someone calls me a bluffer. Now after BTC price skyrockets, my offer has become a lowball. I am OBO for anyone that has one in-hand to sell.

Bitcoin is a bit of an ugly audience to play to.

[ProfMac]

Seems like there is no winning this argument for me. When I first made my offer, someone calls me a bluffer. Now after BTC price skyrockets, my offer has become a lowball. I am OBO for anyone that has one in-hand to sell.

I don't know if this thread might interest you.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148101.msg0#new

[scyth3]

Seems like there is no winning this argument for me. When I first made my offer, someone calls me a bluffer. Now after BTC price skyrockets, my offer has become a lowball. I am OBO for anyone that has one in-hand to sell.

I don't know if this thread might interest you.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148101.msg0#new

I don't think he is selling, just a feeler. Thanks for your help.

[Dalkore]

Honestly, I want you to get what your looking for.   Its just with even the conservative calculations I have done.  $10,000 is not a realistic offer.  I would match and increase this offer right now, just to put it to fact. 

[Bogart]

In theory, I will have an Avalon in-hand next week.

If it were purely a business decision, I might offer to sell it the same day for $25,000.

But emotionally, I really want my Avalon.  I don't want to just sell it right away for fiat.  I took the gamble of ordering it almost 6 months ago, and paid 114 BTC for it.  To sell it now for sure and easy money would be a cop-out.

[scyth3]

Bump