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http://www.infowars.com/captain-kirks-predecessor-star-trek-was-rand-corporation-predictive-programming/

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“The things that intrigues me the most”, Hunter said, “is that it is actually based on the Rand Corporation’s projection of things to come. Except for the fictional characters, it will be like getting a look into the future and some of the predictions will surely come true in our lifetime.”

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Predictive programming as a way to introduce certain “possible” technologies is an aspect highlighted in great detail by researcher Alan Watt. Watt, naively described on Wikipedia as a “conspiracy theorist”, is the first to accurately and thoroughly communicate the concept of predictive programming:

“A subtle form of psychological conditioning provided by the media to acquaint the public with planned societal changes to be implemented by our leaders.

If and when these changes are put through, the public will already be familiarized with them and will accept them as ‘natural progressions’; thus lessening any possible public resistance and commotion.”

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As Daniel Brandt wrote in his article Philanthropists at War, the interlocking system of “foundations” and think tanks after WWII were part of the push by central banks to establish, by stealth, a one world government. And this global system of control, as Carroll Quigley brought to light in his Tragedy and Hope, would not be some idealized “let’s all come together in peace” sort of political utopia. Rather this thousand-headed creature was forced into being and controlled by the major central banks on the planet acting in concert.


So, what predictions from Star Trek do you think have already become reality?  I have a few ideas...

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Amanda_Rogers

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Picard, suspicious about the accident, told Data to investigate the deaths of Rogers' biological parents. It seemed that the circumstances were very rare; a tornado escaped the weather modification network and landed right on Rogers' house with a force which was inconsistent with the size of the tornado.

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I think Allan was talking about the social programing. Like culture amalgamation and technologies we see today like the I-pad and the flip phone.
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February 03, 2013, 06:43:39 AM
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http://www.infowars.com/captain-kirks-predecessor-star-trek-was-rand-corporation-predictive-programming/

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“The things that intrigues me the most”, Hunter said, “is that it is actually based on the Rand Corporation’s projection of things to come. Except for the fictional characters, it will be like getting a look into the future and some of the predictions will surely come true in our lifetime.”

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Predictive programming as a way to introduce certain “possible” technologies is an aspect highlighted in great detail by researcher Alan Watt. Watt, naively described on Wikipedia as a “conspiracy theorist”, is the first to accurately and thoroughly communicate the concept of predictive programming:

“A subtle form of psychological conditioning provided by the media to acquaint the public with planned societal changes to be implemented by our leaders.

If and when these changes are put through, the public will already be familiarized with them and will accept them as ‘natural progressions’; thus lessening any possible public resistance and commotion.”

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As Daniel Brandt wrote in his article Philanthropists at War, the interlocking system of “foundations” and think tanks after WWII were part of the push by central banks to establish, by stealth, a one world government. And this global system of control, as Carroll Quigley brought to light in his Tragedy and Hope, would not be some idealized “let’s all come together in peace” sort of political utopia. Rather this thousand-headed creature was forced into being and controlled by the major central banks on the planet acting in concert.


So, what predictions from Star Trek do you think have already become reality?  I have a few ideas...

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Amanda_Rogers

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Picard, suspicious about the accident, told Data to investigate the deaths of Rogers' biological parents. It seemed that the circumstances were very rare; a tornado escaped the weather modification network and landed right on Rogers' house with a force which was inconsistent with the size of the tornado.


I hope you know that in the star trek universe there is no need for money as you can get anything you need?
Why would the banks help establishing that?
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February 03, 2013, 06:47:58 AM
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http://www.infowars.com/captain-kirks-predecessor-star-trek-was-rand-corporation-predictive-programming/

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“The things that intrigues me the most”, Hunter said, “is that it is actually based on the Rand Corporation’s projection of things to come. Except for the fictional characters, it will be like getting a look into the future and some of the predictions will surely come true in our lifetime.”

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Predictive programming as a way to introduce certain “possible” technologies is an aspect highlighted in great detail by researcher Alan Watt. Watt, naively described on Wikipedia as a “conspiracy theorist”, is the first to accurately and thoroughly communicate the concept of predictive programming:

“A subtle form of psychological conditioning provided by the media to acquaint the public with planned societal changes to be implemented by our leaders.

If and when these changes are put through, the public will already be familiarized with them and will accept them as ‘natural progressions’; thus lessening any possible public resistance and commotion.”

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As Daniel Brandt wrote in his article Philanthropists at War, the interlocking system of “foundations” and think tanks after WWII were part of the push by central banks to establish, by stealth, a one world government. And this global system of control, as Carroll Quigley brought to light in his Tragedy and Hope, would not be some idealized “let’s all come together in peace” sort of political utopia. Rather this thousand-headed creature was forced into being and controlled by the major central banks on the planet acting in concert.


So, what predictions from Star Trek do you think have already become reality?  I have a few ideas...

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Amanda_Rogers

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Picard, suspicious about the accident, told Data to investigate the deaths of Rogers' biological parents. It seemed that the circumstances were very rare; a tornado escaped the weather modification network and landed right on Rogers' house with a force which was inconsistent with the size of the tornado.


I hope you know that in the star trek universe there is no need for money as you can get anything you need?
Why would the banks help establishing that?



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Federation citizens possess what a 20th century capitalist would refer to as "money" only in a limited way. What corresponds most closely to "money" in the Federation is referred to as "credits". These are earned by working, the more and harder one works, the more "credits" an individual earns. One can then use these to purchase food, transportation, living space, etc. Once one spends a credit, it disappears, it is not transferable to the store or anyone else (except parents to children). It is simply deducted from one's total. To get more, one must work more. Credits cannot be traded, except for some controlled gamboling instances, and cannot be stolen. The deduction and accumulation of credits is more of a bookkeeping system than anything else. As above, production units that produce transporters, food, etc. do not trade money for inputs, but simply get what was decided upon by the participatory planning process.

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February 03, 2013, 07:34:17 AM
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blahblahblah....
That's fan fiction by some economy nerds.
Meanwhile http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federation_credit has a more informed description.
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February 03, 2013, 08:52:32 PM
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I hope you know that in the star trek universe there is no need for money as you can get anything you need?
Why would the banks help establishing that?

It's not about getting whatever you need.  That's just the sales pitch.  It's about getting rid of cash and replacing it with digital "credits" which are, of course, doled out by the banks.

http://betterthancash.org/about/our-members/

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February 03, 2013, 09:10:29 PM
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I hope you know that in the star trek universe there is no need for money as you can get anything you need?
Why would the banks help establishing that?

It's not about getting whatever you need.  That's just the sales pitch.  It's about getting rid of cash and replacing it with digital "credits" which are, of course, doled out by the banks.

http://betterthancash.org/about/our-members/

One of the movies with Piccard and the borgs travelling back in time, has a short scene on earth where there are protesers in the background with bill boards. They are to far away to be read, but it suggest that wealth is not distributed in a consensual way.

Have there ever been any mentioning of power costs as cheap or expensive in Star trek?

I'm thinking that if power is abundant and they have replicators, how would a traditional economy work if there is no scarcity?


 
 
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February 03, 2013, 10:43:37 PM
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I hope you know that in the star trek universe there is no need for money as you can get anything you need?
Why would the banks help establishing that?

It's not about getting whatever you need.  That's just the sales pitch.  It's about getting rid of cash and replacing it with digital "credits" which are, of course, doled out by the banks.

http://betterthancash.org/about/our-members/

Aah, so you mean like star trek is actually advertisement for the banks with the aim to make us lose cash?
I don't think so.
There is very little talk about money or credit in star trek and when it is talked about it feels more like a socialist system.
Not sure that is the message the banks would like to spread.
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February 03, 2013, 11:27:33 PM
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People still don't get what is happening to the world. They're taking down nations that are not part of the zionist banking system. They destroy any paper trails of property ownership. Induce global inflation to bring in a crisis of banking.

and more

To prevent a wall of text and to make a long story short.

Slavery.. They don't want your money they want you not to have money. To make you more willing to go with ideas that you would never go for.

TV is a programing tool to shape the ideas of people. Time to grow up.
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February 04, 2013, 12:17:59 AM
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So, what predictions from Star Trek do you think have already become reality?  I have a few ideas...

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Amanda_Rogers

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Picard, suspicious about the accident, told Data to investigate the deaths of Rogers' biological parents. It seemed that the circumstances were very rare; a tornado escaped the weather modification network and landed right on Rogers' house with a force which was inconsistent with the size of the tornado.

Yeah I'm sure the "THEY HAVE WEATHER WEAPONS!!!11" rant is somewhere in there.
http://youtu.be/ejvvPIaYrSo

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February 05, 2013, 06:59:19 PM
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People still don't get what is happening to the world. They're taking down nations that are not part of the zionist banking system. They destroy any paper trails of property ownership. Induce global inflation to bring in a crisis of banking.

and more

To prevent a wall of text and to make a long story short.

Slavery.. They don't want your money they want you not to have money. To make you more willing to go with ideas that you would never go for.

TV is a programing tool to shape the ideas of people. Time to grow up.


LOL.,., not watching tv is pointless if you follow that up with watching conspiracy youtubes.
Woo., fear the zionist slavers.
You can always go live in china or something.
No zionist bankers slaving you there.

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February 05, 2013, 07:06:22 PM
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You can always go live in china or something.
No zionist bankers slaving you there.

You're right and that is some very sound advice.

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Infowars.com. Yeah, I'm not clicking that.

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People still don't get what is happening to the world. They're taking down nations that are not part of the zionist banking system. They destroy any paper trails of property ownership. Induce global inflation to bring in a crisis of banking.

and more

To prevent a wall of text and to make a long story short.

Slavery.. They don't want your money they want you not to have money. To make you more willing to go with ideas that you would never go for.

TV is a programing tool to shape the ideas of people. Time to grow up.


LOL.,., not watching tv is pointless if you follow that up with watching conspiracy youtubes.
Woo., fear the zionist slavers.
You can always go live in china or something.
No zionist bankers slaving you there.



I am Very disappointed. I suggest to you not to fear anyone. Stop putting down people trying to warn others. I'm not a bible thumper here I'm not talking speculation or delusional beliefs. No aliens or UFO's and weird Sasquatch and LochNess sightings either. I'm not talking about ghosts, vibrational crystals, Chakras or the Kabala and the Illuminatti or the Zionist. There are so many half truths on youtube   

These are facts.

I don't know how much you know about history and cyclical events or how money is used. How the media is used and government is circumvented. These things in history occur and reoccur like the life cycle of a fruit or anything in life. They start new and fresh and become corrupt and die. These cycles happen in businesses and governments and as something like a car or truck. They break down. Some last longer than others.
   
Empires start and die like weekend house parties. After their done there is a mess that needs to be cleaned up.

Much more and almost too much to explain. If you think everything is fine then don't let me disturb you. However please don't dismiss this if you have not gone and looked into it.



Anyone who has, understands what is at stake here.

Edit: Alex Jones is an idiot making money on fear buy using news events. As he put it "turd in the punch bowl"

NOW if you can understand how he's allowed to be on alternative media while we shoot JFK and Martin Luther King then you will be starting to see the JFK speech in a different light.

America has been rotted out

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February 05, 2013, 07:46:07 PM
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NOW if you can understand how he's allowed to be on alternative media while we shoot JFK and Martin Luther King then you will be starting to see the JFK speech in a different light.

America has been rotted out

That is something Alex Jones could have said  Smiley



Oh please explain, what is this thread about? You are linking Alex Jones site, using the same rhetoric and demonstrate the same paranoid thought process.

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they keep laughing, then they start choking on their laughter, and then they go and catch their breath. Then they start laughing even more.
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NOW if you can understand how he's allowed to be on alternative media while we shoot JFK and Martin Luther King then you will be starting to see the JFK speech in a different light.

America has been rotted out

That is something Alex Jones could have said  Smiley



Oh please explain, what is this thread about? You are linking Alex Jones site, using the same rhetoric and demonstrate the same paranoid thought process.

Alex Jones is an Conspiracy evangelist. Truth is quite different and not served to the general public. The difference between knowledge and wisdom.

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NOW if you can understand how he's allowed to be on alternative media while we shoot JFK and Martin Luther King then you will be starting to see the JFK speech in a different light.

America has been rotted out

That is something Alex Jones could have said  Smiley


Oh please explain, what is this thread about? You are linking Alex Jones site, using the same rhetoric and demonstrate the same paranoid thought process.

Alex Jones is an Conspiracy evangelist. Truth is quite different and not served to the general public. The difference between knowledge and wisdom.

Sir  

That too sounds very Alex Jones-ish. I see you mentioned above you went ahead and listen to one of his collages now. (Allen Watt)
Been there done that, it's just unbearable. The guy is even more into esoteric woo and the point of the show is something like hero worship.


But that didn't answer my question. What is this thread supposed to accomplish?
I'm still waiting for somebody to make a fool of oneself by bringing up the HAARP Conspiracy Theory. Oh and Chemtrail can't forget Chemtrails. Go for it while I prepare a bag of popcorn Smiley

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February 06, 2013, 12:04:00 AM
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Star trek?

Well yes. We are in an economy crysis, if the situation keep getting worse and worse, a third world war can happen. It is not an impossible scenario. Wich is exactly what happened in Star Trek, the third world war. And then, 5 april 2063, a spaceship will take off, it will activate it's warp drive and... well it is history  Smiley
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NOW if you can understand how he's allowed to be on alternative media while we shoot JFK and Martin Luther King then you will be starting to see the JFK speech in a different light.

America has been rotted out

That is something Alex Jones could have said  Smiley


Oh please explain, what is this thread about? You are linking Alex Jones site, using the same rhetoric and demonstrate the same paranoid thought process.

Alex Jones is an Conspiracy evangelist. Truth is quite different and not served to the general public. The difference between knowledge and wisdom.

Sir  

That too sounds very Alex Jones-ish. I see you mentioned above you went ahead and listen to one of his collages now. (Allen Watt)
Been there done that, it's just unbearable. The guy is even more into esoteric woo and the point of the show is something like hero worship.


But that didn't answer my question. What is this thread supposed to accomplish?
I'm still waiting for somebody to make a fool of oneself by bringing up the HAARP Conspiracy Theory. Oh and Chemtrail can't forget Chemtrails. Go for it while I prepare a bag of popcorn Smiley

Here have a listen to facts then I hope you have a genuine thirst for it. If your wasting my time then there is no point in continuing this trolling your in process of.

Here start at 1:03:00 and listen for your self. Now that you are armed with the general plan on how to circumvent your own government you can apply that to all estates of our lives. Now after that has all been said, keep in mind that this is being applied globally. In other words these forms of "take overs" are being applied to all countries.

As a final and redundant note this is happening in banking right now.

Please if you are disagreeing just to troll me then fine. Well played but to actually believe that everything is fine is quite a more dangerous place to stand. IMO
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February 06, 2013, 02:31:19 AM
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I hope you know that in the star trek universe there is no need for money as you can get anything you need?
Why would the banks help establishing that?

It's not about getting whatever you need.  That's just the sales pitch.  It's about getting rid of cash and replacing it with digital "credits" which are, of course, doled out by the banks.

http://betterthancash.org/about/our-members/

One of the movies with Piccard and the borgs travelling back in time, has a short scene on earth where there are protesers in the background with bill boards. They are to far away to be read, but it suggest that wealth is not distributed in a consensual way.

Have there ever been any mentioning of power costs as cheap or expensive in Star trek?

I'm thinking that if power is abundant and they have replicators, how would a traditional economy work if there is no scarcity?

having the ability to replicate things wouldn't eliminate scarcity because physical space would still be limited. These conflicting interests would need to be reconciled in some way and in a society where resources were practically infinite, central planning could probably do a decent enough job with just that 1 task (figuring out whose body gets placed where and how much space should be between that body and the next body) With that being said a market would still always be the preferred method for settling legitimate rivalries.

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