Let's talk about poker!

[the rise]

Team play is able to control probability of cards that haven't/already appeared, there are many people who play not alone to boost profits that exceed our estimates in poker game, all technical and analytical things done together in limited chat, this is not a cheat way because there is no rules in a single table related to this technique.

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[Bionicgalaxy]

Is poker a game of skill, or a game of chance? Many times asked question, no one can agree on what a game of poker is. There is studies and court decisions regarding the skill / chance debate, there is couple endless threads on this forum too. But I don't wish to open that discussion again.

For beginning I wish to ask where are you playing, and can we meet on some site?
I like to play on betcoin.ag, cash game on tables 0.05/0.1 and 0.1/0.25 mbtc. Tournaments are also something I like to play, but just when I have time to sit few hours freely, what is rarely in past few weeks.

My nickname there is Underworld.

Based on my experience in poker it is a combination of skill and a game chance because in skill if you don't have any skill to bluff your opponents they still won't fold. While in a game of chance ofcourse if you have a chance that you have a  better card on your hands than your opponent you have a 100 % chance that you will win.

[Lady Coquet]

Is poker a game of skill, or a game of chance? Many times asked question, no one can agree on what a game of poker is. There is studies and court decisions regarding the skill / chance debate, there is couple endless threads on this forum too. But I don't wish to open that discussion again.

For beginning I wish to ask where are you playing, and can we meet on some site?
I like to play on betcoin.ag, cash game on tables 0.05/0.1 and 0.1/0.25 mbtc. Tournaments are also something I like to play, but just when I have time to sit few hours freely, what is rarely in past few weeks.

My nickname there is Underworld.

In my own personal opinion poker is a game of chance because if you have given a great card automatically you will win in that round but if you have given a bad card that's automatically you will lose so it's better to fold.

[michkima]

Is poker a game of skill, or a game of chance? Many times asked question, no one can agree on what a game of poker is. There is studies and court decisions regarding the skill / chance debate, there is couple endless threads on this forum too. But I don't wish to open that discussion again.

For beginning I wish to ask where are you playing, and can we meet on some site?
I like to play on betcoin.ag, cash game on tables 0.05/0.1 and 0.1/0.25 mbtc. Tournaments are also something I like to play, but just when I have time to sit few hours freely, what is rarely in past few weeks.

My nickname there is Underworld.

In my own personal opinion poker is a game of chance because if you have given a great card automatically you will win in that round but if you have given a bad card that's automatically you will lose so it's better to fold.

It is both, in my opinion. Yes you can win with having a good draw. For example you get two aces. Those two are good already as a pair. But if you think about it, what if the opponent does get two and three and the drawn cards gets him a straight and you got nothing but a pair, do you think that's a winner at the start? It still takes a lot of skill on how you will play your cards.

[game-protect]

Well I understand that you can't believe in anything cause there is no honesty in you, you don't know what that means.

I do not believe anything you say, because you are a criminal liar!

( and you have a friend here on forum probably you trust him ).

I have no friend here.

Yes I thought of that, game protect but that shows how much ignorant you are, check out tournament page, and maybe you will be surprised how many people are playing.

14 players in average!

Please do full research before you start any accusation. And I play 10 dollars cash game, but you have no respect for my choice, no you don't have respect for anyone or anything, what that says about you?

I researched the betcoin.ag scam very well!

About what accusation do you speak?

or http://imgur.com/a/F66ZA You accuse me that I`m a criminal liar? This is what you do with everyone, you attack attack and attack without any logic and sense, again that shows a lot about your personality.

Yes you have your friends/coworkers and I still wonder who is paying you to spread rumors and spam around the forum.

14 players in average? You don`t even know what you are talking about ( and this is not the first time )

You researched something and I wonder what you have with that? As we know that guy made a deal for himself and he took the money in the end, I was here when that happened, and every casino for fiat or bitcoin have rules, and I wasn`t satisfied with every casino always but it is like it is. But that is how you promote your service, very bad way if you ask me, now even if you are valid ( in what I doubt ) I will not visit your site ever cause you are very bad person ( I told you several times about that and I explained you more then once).
You are just a spammer, and one more thread is argue just cause of you, you turned every discussion in your own foolish war against some casinos, that is madness, and that`s why I think that you are paid for that. A lot of negative trust from trusted members is also a good pointer.
I told you more then once that I will not talk with you anymore, and again you pulled me into argue with false accusation and information`s. This is the last time! I hope that other members on this forum will see your real face after all this! Good luck and please don`t wrote here anymore!

You know very well that promoting a publicly proven scam is a criminal offense!

You failed with your attacking campaign against Game Protect.

The betcoin.ag scam pays 70 promoters to have 14 players in average with $5 - $10 at the tables.  

Your friend in crime Xiaoxiao do not pay the promised rakeback since 5 weeks!

Jasonort did not make a deal, betcoin.ag still owe him 500 Bitcoins, everyone in this forum knows that.

What is negative trust? Personal beliefs =  negative trust? Do you know that your employer Betcoin.ag has a ton of negative trust based on facts?

A lot of forum members have meanwhile seen the real face of the betcoin.ag scam and its criminal promoters like you! That is why your traffic decreased for 66% on Alexa Global Rank.

[michaelch]

Is poker a game of skill, or a game of chance? Many times asked question, no one can agree on what a game of poker is. There is studies and court decisions regarding the skill / chance debate, there is couple endless threads on this forum too. But I don't wish to open that discussion again.

For beginning I wish to ask where are you playing, and can we meet on some site?
I like to play on betcoin.ag, cash game on tables 0.05/0.1 and 0.1/0.25 mbtc. Tournaments are also something I like to play, but just when I have time to sit few hours freely, what is rarely in past few weeks.

My nickname there is Underworld.

In my own personal opinion poker is a game of chance because if you have given a great card automatically you will win in that round but if you have given a bad card that's automatically you will lose so it's better to fold.

I think it is both skill and luck will influence the results? Especially over the long run. There are some other games where chance is almost all that matters, where skill doesn't factor much. Roulette for example.

[FrueGreads]

Is poker a game of skill, or a game of chance? Many times asked question, no one can agree on what a game of poker is. There is studies and court decisions regarding the skill / chance debate, there is couple endless threads on this forum too. But I don't wish to open that discussion again.

For beginning I wish to ask where are you playing, and can we meet on some site?
I like to play on betcoin.ag, cash game on tables 0.05/0.1 and 0.1/0.25 mbtc. Tournaments are also something I like to play, but just when I have time to sit few hours freely, what is rarely in past few weeks.

My nickname there is Underworld.

In my own personal opinion poker is a game of chance because if you have given a great card automatically you will win in that round but if you have given a bad card that's automatically you will lose so it's better to fold.

I think it is both skill and luck will influence the results? Especially over the long run. There are some other games where chance is almost all that matters, where skill doesn't factor much. Roulette for example.

Yes I agree with you. You need both luck and skill if you want to be successful at poker. Well if you are good, you will not need luck in the long term, but it will sure increase your winnings if you have it.

[TechnoMusic]

Well I understand that you can't believe in anything cause there is no honesty in you, you don't know what that means.

I do not believe anything you say, because you are a criminal liar!

( and you have a friend here on forum probably you trust him ).

I have no friend here.

Yes I thought of that, game protect but that shows how much ignorant you are, check out tournament page, and maybe you will be surprised how many people are playing.

14 players in average!

Please do full research before you start any accusation. And I play 10 dollars cash game, but you have no respect for my choice, no you don't have respect for anyone or anything, what that says about you?

I researched the betcoin.ag scam very well!

About what accusation do you speak?

or http://imgur.com/a/F66ZA You accuse me that I`m a criminal liar? This is what you do with everyone, you attack attack and attack without any logic and sense, again that shows a lot about your personality.

Yes you have your friends/coworkers and I still wonder who is paying you to spread rumors and spam around the forum.

14 players in average? You don`t even know what you are talking about ( and this is not the first time )

You researched something and I wonder what you have with that? As we know that guy made a deal for himself and he took the money in the end, I was here when that happened, and every casino for fiat or bitcoin have rules, and I wasn`t satisfied with every casino always but it is like it is. But that is how you promote your service, very bad way if you ask me, now even if you are valid ( in what I doubt ) I will not visit your site ever cause you are very bad person ( I told you several times about that and I explained you more then once).
You are just a spammer, and one more thread is argue just cause of you, you turned every discussion in your own foolish war against some casinos, that is madness, and that`s why I think that you are paid for that. A lot of negative trust from trusted members is also a good pointer.
I told you more then once that I will not talk with you anymore, and again you pulled me into argue with false accusation and information`s. This is the last time! I hope that other members on this forum will see your real face after all this! Good luck and please don`t wrote here anymore!

You know very well that promoting a publicly proven scam is a criminal offense!

You failed with your attacking campaign against Game Protect.

The betcoin.ag scam pays 70 promoters to have 14 players in average with $5 - $10 at the tables.  

Your friend in crime Xiaoxiao do not pay the promised rakeback since 5 weeks!

Jasonort did not make a deal, betcoin.ag still owe him 500 Bitcoins, everyone in this forum knows that.

What is negative trust? Personal beliefs =  negative trust? Do you know that your employer Betcoin.ag has a ton of negative trust based on facts?

A lot of forum members have meanwhile seen the real face of the betcoin.ag scam and its criminal promoters like you! That is why your traffic decreased for 66% on Alexa Global Rank.

Omg betcoin.ag did that pfff omg whyyy I really like this betcoin.ag campaign but i see that it is negative trust so i dont want join but i really would like to join but they are criminals so i dont want but i really like their site.

[game-protect]

Omg betcoin.ag did that pfff omg whyyy I really like this betcoin.ag campaign but i see that it is negative trust so i dont want join but i really would like to join but they are criminals so i dont want but i really like their site.

Affiliate and partner in crime Xiaoxiao defrauded betcoin.ag scam customers!

Hello everyone, it's time for me to come out with the truth about the recent "delayed" rakeback situation.  This is not easy to do, especially since some of you guys viewed me as a helping hand to resolve issues or expedite support tickets and be an advocate for the players.

The truth is that I have personally mismanaged players' rakeback funds because I have gambled most of it away; I have a gambling problem.  I'm sure Betcoin can attest to this by simply looking at my past gambling records on the site, and most of the cashouts I made were to a few other bitcoin gambling sites which I lost.  The reason I made up the excuse of "delayed rakeback stats" was to buy time so I can get loans or use continued incoming affiliate funds to try to make back what I needed to cover.

In the past you may have noticed there's been similar "delays," though not as prolonged as this one.  Many of which (if not all) were because of my gambling habits in which I lost the funds which I should have set aside to pay out players at the end of the week.  However, I was always able to some how come up with it either taking out loans with every credit line that I have, or somehow winning it back via gambling, which is why this program has been afloat for so long amidst my gambling issues.

I hope you all could see that this delay of player rakeback was not the result of any malicious intent.  I've always tried to help the players under this program to the best of my abilities, a lot of time intervening with support and helping expedite issues they may be having with the ever enhancing Betcoin platform, or sending early rakeback when players needed it.

Currently I am working with Betcoin and a few possible investors to figure out a way to appease all those that haven't received their due rakeback from this program in the past few months.  I have exact records of who is owed what amount.

I apologize and feel incredibly bad for all those that were eagerly awaiting their rakeback, because I've been there before myself.  In no way shape or form have I ever intended to "scam" anyone.  As you know, I started this program back in 2014, and I always did my best to do whatever I can to make sure my players' get their due rakeback.  However this time around I ran out of credit lines and my luck also ran out so I told a bigger lie to buy myself time to figure out a way to come up with player funds.

[gabmen]

Is poker a game of skill, or a game of chance? Many times asked question, no one can agree on what a game of poker is. There is studies and court decisions regarding the skill / chance debate, there is couple endless threads on this forum too. But I don't wish to open that discussion again.

For beginning I wish to ask where are you playing, and can we meet on some site?
I like to play on betcoin.ag, cash game on tables 0.05/0.1 and 0.1/0.25 mbtc. Tournaments are also something I like to play, but just when I have time to sit few hours freely, what is rarely in past few weeks.

My nickname there is Underworld.

In my own personal opinion poker is a game of chance because if you have given a great card automatically you will win in that round but if you have given a bad card that's automatically you will lose so it's better to fold.

I think it is both skill and luck will influence the results? Especially over the long run. There are some other games where chance is almost all that matters, where skill doesn't factor much. Roulette for example.

Yes I agree with you. You need both luck and skill if you want to be successful at poker. Well if you are good, you will not need luck in the long term, but it will sure increase your winnings if you have it.

luck becomes less of a factor when you're already an experienced poker player. the longer you play, the more experienced and skillfull you'll get and you wouldn't be relying on luck almost all the time. you'll know how to play with good and bad hands and how to take advantage of other player's reactions. luck is mainly for poker newbies

[goinmerry]

luck becomes less of a factor when you're already an experienced poker player. the longer you play, the more experienced and skillfull you'll get and you wouldn't be relying on luck almost all the time. you'll know how to play with good and bad hands and how to take advantage of other player's reactions. luck is mainly for poker newbies

Definitely agree especially in the case of poker or any gambling games that needs a strategy.

No matter how lucky a person is to have a good set of cards in every deal, if they will not use their skills and strategy, their strong cards can be outshined by a weaker card. It already happened many times in that kind of card game. This is game of knowledge. Luck increases our chances of winning but even a bad card can win.

There are some unbelievable comeback videos too on Youtube to those poker player who still able win despite of bad and worst cards to consider disregarding the bluff system.

[FrueGreads]

There are some unbelievable comeback videos too on Youtube to those poker player who still able win despite of bad and worst cards to consider disregarding the bluff system.

But some of those comebacks only prove that luck has an important factor in the game. Because some hands got buried by odds, and then manage to win on the river, and the correct strategy would be to fold before reaching that phase. But yes I also agree that poker is mostly a game of skill. Luck helps, but in the long term skill will prevail.

[Barbut]

Well I understand that you can't believe in anything cause there is no honesty in you, you don't know what that means.

I do not believe anything you say, because you are a criminal liar!

( and you have a friend here on forum probably you trust him ).

I have no friend here.

Yes I thought of that, game protect but that shows how much ignorant you are, check out tournament page, and maybe you will be surprised how many people are playing.

14 players in average!

Please do full research before you start any accusation. And I play 10 dollars cash game, but you have no respect for my choice, no you don't have respect for anyone or anything, what that says about you?

I researched the betcoin.ag scam very well!

About what accusation do you speak?

or http://imgur.com/a/F66ZA You accuse me that I`m a criminal liar? This is what you do with everyone, you attack attack and attack without any logic and sense, again that shows a lot about your personality.

Yes you have your friends/coworkers and I still wonder who is paying you to spread rumors and spam around the forum.

14 players in average? You don`t even know what you are talking about ( and this is not the first time )

You researched something and I wonder what you have with that? As we know that guy made a deal for himself and he took the money in the end, I was here when that happened, and every casino for fiat or bitcoin have rules, and I wasn`t satisfied with every casino always but it is like it is. But that is how you promote your service, very bad way if you ask me, now even if you are valid ( in what I doubt ) I will not visit your site ever cause you are very bad person ( I told you several times about that and I explained you more then once).
You are just a spammer, and one more thread is argue just cause of you, you turned every discussion in your own foolish war against some casinos, that is madness, and that`s why I think that you are paid for that. A lot of negative trust from trusted members is also a good pointer.
I told you more then once that I will not talk with you anymore, and again you pulled me into argue with false accusation and information`s. This is the last time! I hope that other members on this forum will see your real face after all this! Good luck and please don`t wrote here anymore!

You know very well that promoting a publicly proven scam is a criminal offense!

You failed with your attacking campaign against Game Protect.

The betcoin.ag scam pays 70 promoters to have 14 players in average with $5 - $10 at the tables.  

Your friend in crime Xiaoxiao do not pay the promised rakeback since 5 weeks!

Jasonort did not make a deal, betcoin.ag still owe him 500 Bitcoins, everyone in this forum knows that.

What is negative trust? Personal beliefs =  negative trust? Do you know that your employer Betcoin.ag has a ton of negative trust based on facts?

A lot of forum members have meanwhile seen the real face of the betcoin.ag scam and its criminal promoters like you! That is why your traffic decreased for 66% on Alexa Global Rank.

You and your friend are two persons that talk about scam here, no one else. You are like broken record, and you are paid to talk same thing over and over again, you are not even a real person, you are a fuckin robot, and you are very annoying. I don`t attack anyone, I`m just talking about facts! Betcoin pays like all other casinos are paying!
Just morons will believe you, again you are showing that you don`t have a brain your head! XIaoxiao is service and you need to register on his referral, I`m not his referral so I don`t care what he promised to anyone, he is just one person and maybe he tricked people maybe not, that doesn`t have nothing with betcoin.ag.
What is negative trust? Personal beliefs =  negative trust? You are an idiot cause this is exactly what you are doing, and thats how you promoting yourself, you give red trust just to betcoin,ag, that again says a lot about you.
And in the end A lot of forum members know who you are, so stop hiding and stop with this attacks on betcoin.ag and me, you are boring! But you can`t do that because you are paid to do that!!!!!
Now fuck of please, I will lock this thread and I will open new one soon, but self-moderated, in that way I will be able to delete every comment you make, because you comments are off-topic always, you didn`t said nothing about poker, you are a criminal liar, not betcoin.ag or we as promoters, you are criminal!!!