Let's talk about poker!

[Barbut]

Is poker a game of skill, or a game of chance? Many times asked question, no one can agree on what a game of poker is. There is studies and court decisions regarding the skill / chance debate, there is couple endless threads on this forum too. But I don't wish to open that discussion again.

For beginning I wish to ask where are you playing, and can we meet on some site?
I like to play on betcoin.ag, cash game on tables 0.05/0.1 and 0.1/0.25 mbtc. Tournaments are also something I like to play, but just when I have time to sit few hours freely, what is rarely in past few weeks.

My nickname there is Underworld.

[game-protect]

At luck games with -EV, you can not win longtherm. Always when you play with -EV, it was luck if you won after a larger number of bets.

If you are a good poker player, you can win longtherm = play with +EV and therefore Poker is definetely a skill game and this totally independent of contradictory court decisions.

If you like to play at betcoin.ag, you would also like to play on skins at the Winning Poker Network (WPN), with an unlike larger cash game and Sit&Go traffic. You will have also the same tournament selection, as betcoin.ag joins the WPN tournaments thru the Winning Tournament Network (WTN).

[bitjoin]

Is poker a game of skill, or a game of chance? Many times asked question, no one can agree on what a game of poker is. There is studies and court decisions regarding the skill / chance debate, there is couple endless threads on this forum too. But I don't wish to open that discussion again.

For beginning I wish to ask where are you playing, and can we meet on some site?
I like to play on betcoin.ag, cash game on tables 0.05/0.1 and 0.1/0.25 mbtc. Tournaments are also something I like to play, but just when I have time to sit few hours freely, what is rarely in past few weeks.

My nickname there is Underworld.

We can tell objectively its a game of skill by looking at the good players long term winnings history.  It would be mathmatically impossible for good players to just be lucky over a long run. 

We cant trust court judgements on many things really.  Short term there is luck involved.

[BossMacko]

With my experience in poker i can say that poker is a game of skills, why? because even a bad card can win aslong as you have the guts to do bluffs and you're timing is right. I often watch poker live and in my observation those who are skilled always gets to the final table.

[bitjoin]

With my experience in poker i can say that poker is a game of skills, why? because even a bad card can win aslong as you have the guts to do bluffs and you're timing is right. I often watch poker live and in my observation those who are skilled always gets to the final table.

I have found i can play in some soft games and the cards wont even matter due to timing bluffs etc.  Light well timed 3bets and squeeze plays can be good enough in some games alone to be +ev.

[senyorito123]

Is poker a game of skill, or a game of chance? Many times asked question, no one can agree on what a game of poker is. There is studies and court decisions regarding the skill / chance debate, there is couple endless threads on this forum too. But I don't wish to open that discussion again.

For beginning I wish to ask where are you playing, and can we meet on some site?
I like to play on betcoin.ag, cash game on tables 0.05/0.1 and 0.1/0.25 mbtc. Tournaments are also something I like to play, but just when I have time to sit few hours freely, what is rarely in past few weeks.

My nickname there is Underworld.

We can tell objectively its a game of skill by looking at the good players long term winnings history.  It would be mathmatically impossible for good players to just be lucky over a long run. 

We cant trust court judgements on many things really.  Short term there is luck involved.

I believe poker game is a skill based games since we need to used our brains and talents for us to win on our opponents and luck is just a totally ot little percentage for gamblers to win, abd come to think for it, do you think unskillfull player can win eventhough they doesn't know how to play well in poker and realy only for their luck? Well no surely since they will be surely be swiped out by those veteran players.

[bitjoin]

Is poker a game of skill, or a game of chance? Many times asked question, no one can agree on what a game of poker is. There is studies and court decisions regarding the skill / chance debate, there is couple endless threads on this forum too. But I don't wish to open that discussion again.

For beginning I wish to ask where are you playing, and can we meet on some site?
I like to play on betcoin.ag, cash game on tables 0.05/0.1 and 0.1/0.25 mbtc. Tournaments are also something I like to play, but just when I have time to sit few hours freely, what is rarely in past few weeks.

My nickname there is Underworld.

We can tell objectively its a game of skill by looking at the good players long term winnings history.  It would be mathmatically impossible for good players to just be lucky over a long run. 

We cant trust court judgements on many things really.  Short term there is luck involved.

I believe poker game is a skill based games since we need to used our brains and talents for us to win on our opponents and luck is just a totally ot little percentage for gamblers to win, abd come to think for it, do you think unskillfull player can win eventhough they doesn't know how to play well in poker and realy only for their luck? Well no surely since they will be surely be swiped out by those veteran players.

You dont have to be highly skilled at poker, you just need to be better than the other players in that game on that day + ahead of the rake charges.  People use their brains in some games like blackjack but with blackjack there in no way to gain an edge only minimise long term losses by playing optimum.

[Red-Apple]

Is poker a game of skill, or a game of chance? Many times asked question, no one can agree on what a game of poker is. There is studies and court decisions regarding the skill / chance debate, there is couple endless threads on this forum too. But I don't wish to open that discussion again.

this is one of those questions that people are never going to come to a conclusion on. i however believe it is so simple, it is a combination of both and the result is only depending on the skills. you have to be lucky to get a good card but it is your skills in the end that is going to save you.

For beginning I wish to ask where are you playing, and can we meet on some site?
I like to play on betcoin.ag, cash game on tables 0.05/0.1 and 0.1/0.25 mbtc. Tournaments are also something I like to play, but just when I have time to sit few hours freely, what is rarely in past few weeks.

My nickname there is Underworld.

to be honest i have tried many online poker games, but i always end up disliking all of them.
i prefer the actual game of poker face to face with my friends.

[bitjoin]

i prefer the actual game of poker face to face with my friends.

They had or have webcam poker sites where you can get a inbetween version of live/online: https://uk.888poker.com/poker-games/webcam/ Not sure there are any BTC option though and i dont know if these games even still run was a few years back i heard about it.

[BTCLovingDude]

i prefer the actual game of poker face to face with my friends.

They had or have webcam poker sites where you can get a inbetween version of live/online: https://uk.888poker.com/poker-games/webcam/ Not sure there are any BTC option though and i dont know if these games even still run was a few years back i heard about it.

i am also a fan of poker playing it face to face and what you are suggesting is still not face to face! and i don't see much point in it either because you are still not controlling the cards in your hand, and the system is assigning them to you.

[acarli]

i prefer the actual game of poker face to face with my friends.

They had or have webcam poker sites where you can get a inbetween version of live/online: https://uk.888poker.com/poker-games/webcam/ Not sure there are any BTC option though and i dont know if these games even still run was a few years back i heard about it.

I checked out the article about the face to face poker. That was pretty nice. It adds a new dimension to playing poker. I am always biased towards live games.

About the issue of whether or not poker is a game of skill. I think that some are, like TH. There is long term statistical analysis supporting the skill element.

[PokerBetting]

i want to ask to op
is experience play in betcoin.ag
in there support play , player vs player or not, this mean tournamen player, not player vs machine

[marlboroza]

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there is couple endless threads on this forum too. But I don't wish to open that discussion again.

So you created new endless discussion? 

Is poker a game of skill, or a game of chance? Many times asked question, no one can agree on what a game of poker is.

IMO poker is game of skill and knowledge to read your opponents behavior and emotions. The better you can read those, the better your poker game will be and higher chance to win. And there are lots of books written about poker from expert players.

For beginning I wish to ask where are you playing, and can we meet on some site?
I like to play on betcoin.ag, cash game on tables 0.05/0.1 and 0.1/0.25 mbtc. Tournaments are also something I like to play, but just when I have time to sit few hours freely, what is rarely in past few weeks.
My nickname there is Underworld.

betcoin.ag has lots of scam accusation and it is highly red trusted.

[winspiral]

Is poker a game of skill, or a game of chance? Many times asked question, no one can agree on what a game of poker is. There is studies and court decisions regarding the skill / chance debate, there is couple endless threads on this forum too. But I don't wish to open that discussion again.

For beginning I wish to ask where are you playing, and can we meet on some site?
I like to play on betcoin.ag, cash game on tables 0.05/0.1 and 0.1/0.25 mbtc. Tournaments are also something I like to play, but just when I have time to sit few hours freely, what is rarely in past few weeks.

My nickname there is Underworld.

Skill and chance.

I have more chance than skill (lol)

[StratisKing]

At luck games with -EV, you can not win longtherm. Always when you play with -EV, it was luck if you won after a larger number of bets.

If you are a good poker player, you can win longtherm = play with +EV and therefore Poker is definetely a skill game and this totally independent of contradictory court decisions.

If you like to play at betcoin.ag, you would also like to play on skins at the Winning Poker Network (WPN), with an unlike larger cash game and Sit&Go traffic. You will have also the same tournament selection, as betcoin.ag joins the WPN tournaments thru the Winning Tournament Network (WTN).

Exactly, we play poker against weak players= we have +EV. It is the important way to make money if we choose correct gambling games, aka poker. I like poker because it is the game which has no house edge, we jist need to pay rake to the house, it is better than house edge casino games

[bering]

i do playing poker several times and i have good knowledge and skill for starting it and for playing poker you must have skill, chance and luck to won the game because these three is the most important to do so and i have bad experience that while playing poker i was thought my card is more high rather than other people because i have Full house and i decide to bet all in but unfortunately i was lost my bets because my opponent had Four of Kind

[equator]

Is poker a game of skill, or a game of chance? Many times asked question, no one can agree on what a game of poker is. There is studies and court decisions regarding the skill / chance debate, there is couple endless threads on this forum too. But I don't wish to open that discussion again.

For beginning I wish to ask where are you playing, and can we meet on some site?
I like to play on betcoin.ag, cash game on tables 0.05/0.1 and 0.1/0.25 mbtc. Tournaments are also something I like to play, but just when I have time to sit few hours freely, what is rarely in past few weeks.

My nickname there is Underworld.

Poker is a skill based game that i agree 1000% correct if anyone is tellingthat it is luck based then he dont know to play or else he is playing in casino, but if you are playing poker direct with live players then it is skill based as i am playing for more then 2 yrs and i have earned alot through my skill in poker.

[smho_16]

I will talk about texas holdem poker where I think we all will agree that 90% is a game of skill and 10% depend on luck (not much you can do with bad cards really).

I have seen live tournaments in my country even broadcasted to TV and I have seen people winning consistently there. 2 points I have learned from those guys, 1. The guy who bluffed more , got home really quick. 2. Who was patient enough usually ended up winning the tournament. They were all skillful players but patience is key in this game if you want to win.

Before venturing into real money play, try SIT N GO tournaments in Zynga Poker game. You can learn a lot there, 2 weeks to 1 months can really make a difference rather than jumping straight into real casino, real money play.

[damar09]

Is poker a game of skill, or a game of chance? Many times asked question, no one can agree on what a game of poker is. There is studies and court decisions regarding the skill / chance debate, there is couple endless threads on this forum too. But I don't wish to open that discussion again.

For beginning I wish to ask where are you playing, and can we meet on some site?
I like to play on betcoin.ag, cash game on tables 0.05/0.1 and 0.1/0.25 mbtc. Tournaments are also something I like to play, but just when I have time to sit few hours freely, what is rarely in past few weeks.

My nickname there is Underworld.

as long as I play poker, play poker point is courage, and not just skills only if we have a lot of capital and courage cards we hold despite bad though shalt triumph because poker game aims to weaken the opponent mentally

[roadbits]

At luck games with -EV, you can not win longtherm. Always when you play with -EV, it was luck if you won after a larger number of bets.

If you are a good poker player, you can win longtherm = play with +EV and therefore Poker is definetely a skill game and this totally independent of contradictory court decisions.

If you like to play at betcoin.ag, you would also like to play on skins at the Winning Poker Network (WPN), with an unlike larger cash game and Sit&Go traffic. You will have also the same tournament selection, as betcoin.ag joins the WPN tournaments thru the Winning Tournament Network (WTN).

Exactly, we play poker against weak players= we have +EV. It is the important way to make money if we choose correct gambling games, aka poker. I like poker because it is the game which has no house edge, we jist need to pay rake to the house, it is better than house edge casino games

Is there any way we can know whether a player is experienced or not in online poker games? If I'm not wrong, we will come to know only when we play the game right? If this question answer is yes then I can say we need some luck to win this game. Otherwise, we may lose money here as well. I don't have knowledge about this game.