Paypal for BTC long time partnership

[AnnaPrague]

Hello everyone,
I am a reputable trader from one well-known platform, I have almost 1000 trades, 600 feedbacks, my trade volume is more than 200 bitcoins, all this information you can easily check.
I am able to buy at least 1k USD every day, my price is bitstamp + 5%.
We can start with platform I am trading on ( it takes 1% from both of us )

Private Message me if you interested and we will discuss our potential partnership 
Thank you

[bleachedno]

Please read this : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=14632.0

Better just lock this topic yourself before you get a negative feedback from default trust members

Paypal can be reverse up to 180 days so no one will doing such deals.

Here some alternatives :

www.wesellcrypto.com "max limit per day is 15$ unverified or verified (submit id card) 150$" Paypal does not need to be verified!"

www.virwox.com "Depends on your lvl" need veridied paypal.

www.localbitcoins.com

www.paxful.com

[suchmoon]

Hello everyone,
I am a reputable trader from one well-known platform, I have almost 1000 trades, 600 feedbacks, my trade volume is more than 200 bitcoins, all this information you can easily check.

Which platform is that and how exactly can we check that?

[AnnaPrague]

Thank you for reply, however it seems that you did not read my initial post well enough. I know all these websites and can add three or four others. Their exchange rate is not good enough for me. As you can imagine no business can be done if BTC are purchased from them,

I am new here but I am not new in trading
https://paxful.com/user/AnnaPrague
you can message me there
550 trade partners 100% positive feedback. Will hit 300 BTC trading volume this week.  

Please read this : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=14632.0

Better just lock this topic yourself before you get a negative feedback from default trust members

Paypal can be reverse up to 180 days so no one will doing such deals.

Here some alternatives :

www.wesellcrypto.com "max limit per day is 15$ unverified or verified (submit id card) 150$" Paypal does not need to be verified!"

www.virwox.com "Depends on your lvl" need veridied paypal.

www.localbitcoins.com

www.paxful.com

@suchmoon
instead of being an ignorant asshole and marking the post as "offering false assurances" and basically naming me a scammer without any substantiation you should have waited at least couple of hours for my reply. My reputation on paxful speaks for itself plus, moron, I can provide IDs,  notarized contract and bank guarantees, and you are just a pretentious son of a bitch ignorant that there are professionals capable of resolving ANY business difficulty and therefore a scumbag for not even considering that the person conversing with you is honest!
Before naming a person a scammer you should listen to them and give a chance to defend their position

ASSHOLE!
 

Hello everyone,
I am a reputable trader from one well-known platform, I have almost 1000 trades, 600 feedbacks, my trade volume is more than 200 bitcoins, all this information you can easily check.

Which platform is that and how exactly can we check that?

[suchmoon]

@suchmoon
instead of being an ignorant asshole and marking the post as "offering false assurances" and basically naming me a scammer without any substantiation you should have waited at least couple of hours for my reply. My reputation on paxful speaks for itself plus, moron, I can provide IDs,  notarized contract and bank guarantees, and you are just a pretentious son of a bitch ignorant that there are professionals capable of resolving ANY business difficulty and therefore a scumbag for not even considering that the person conversing with you is honest!
Before naming a person a scammer you should listen to them and give a chance to defend their position

ASSHOLE!

Your reputation on paxful - if that's even your account - doesn't mean much here. I did not call you a scammer, I'm pointing out PayPal risks. However I'm willing to revise my feedback to neutral if you (a) post your real mugshot on paxful and (b) add this to the description: "I'm also known as AnnaPrague on Bitcointalk." Shouldn't be too hard considering the trustworthy image you're trying to project. Call me asshole or PM me once more and the offer is off the table - I don't like dealing with petulant children on the intertubes, I have some of my own.


Edited 2020-11-28 to fix a broken image


Edited 2020-11-28 to fix a broken image

[AnnaPrague]

@suchmoon
you said "false pretenses" and it is pretty much if not  the same as naming me a scammer
you added negative reputation without any substantiation.
I trade paypal to btc and btc to paypal for quite a while and have more positive reputation and trades than 99% of users on this website. And who are you to decide what matters for other people and what does not?
If you are a moderator you could of asked me to provide proof who I am
I added your message to my profile on paxful and will keep it until start of tomorrow trading. After all it is useless info and paxful allows only three lines of text there. Both the text and the image are part of the BRAND. AnnaPrague. My clients that come to the website they look for this picture.

Mugshot is for criminals am i correct or not? the picture on my profile on paxful IS my real face and the "verified seller" tag on the profile means EXACTLY that
It  means that it was matched with my checked and verified ID during skype video interview with paxful admins. You can easily confirm that with them
and profile on paxful with two factor authentication can not be so easily hacked.


User above you indeed pointed out the paypal risks. He did it politely without unsubstantiated accusations  like you did .
And the thing is that the statement was not entirely true

180 days is for " item not described " or "item not received"
which is eliminated very easily with cryptographic proof of delivery.
Learn what you are talking about before making any false statements.

for unauthorized purchase the limit is only 60 days. And this can also be easily mitigated.
So once again before making any statements you should be more considerate and polite.
My 8 month old son has more patience and tact than you do!

  

@suchmoon
instead of being an ignorant asshole and marking the post as "offering false assurances" and basically naming me a scammer without any substantiation you should have waited at least couple of hours for my reply. My reputation on paxful speaks for itself plus, moron, I can provide IDs,  notarized contract and bank guarantees, and you are just a pretentious son of a bitch ignorant that there are professionals capable of resolving ANY business difficulty and therefore a scumbag for not even considering that the person conversing with you is honest!
Before naming a person a scammer you should listen to them and give a chance to defend their position

ASSHOLE!

Your reputation on paxful - if that's even your account - doesn't mean much here. I did not call you a scammer, I'm pointing out PayPal risks. However I'm willing to revise my feedback to neutral if you (a) post your real mugshot on paxful and (b) add this to the description: "I'm also known as AnnaPrague on Bitcointalk." Shouldn't be too hard considering the trustworthy image you're trying to project. Call me asshole or PM me once more and the offer is off the table - I don't like dealing with petulant children on the intertubes, I have some of my own.

http://i.snag.gy/KKvAC.jpg

http://i.snag.gy/GfGWC.jpg

[Patatas]

Your reputation on other trading platforms means nothing here.In case you don't know,people sell reputed accounts from all other places on this forum,so we never know if that's actually you or the previous owner who sold you the account.As suchmoon said,prove your identity holding a piece of paper with your name and today's date on it,you're good to go.He should verify and revise your feedback then.

[AnnaPrague]

ok that's a reasonable request. I will do it tomorrow morning. and I can post it here, not on my profile pic there. I will address it to you, patatas and this suchmoon guy. good night

Your reputation on other trading platforms means nothing here.In case you don't know,people sell reputed accounts from all other places on this forum,so we never know if that's actually you or the previous owner who sold you the account.As suchmoon said,prove your identity holding a piece of paper with your name and today's date on it,you're good to go.He should verify and revise your feedback then.

[AcoinL.L.C]

I traded BTC for Paypal with a "reputable" trader on Localbitcoins back in 2013, a couple months later I got a charge back. I provided plenty of evidence of the trade yet the verdict (obviously) still went the scammers way and I was out several BTC. Would highly suggest avoiding trading BTC for PayPal... Especially with a newbie account

[suchmoon]

User above you indeed pointed out the paypal risks. He did it politely without unsubstantiated accusations  like you did .
And the thing is that the statement was not entirely true

180 days is for " item not described " or "item not received"
which is eliminated very easily with cryptographic proof of delivery.
Learn what you are talking about before making any false statements.

for unauthorized purchase the limit is only 60 days. And this can also be easily mitigated.
So once again before making any statements you should be more considerate and polite.
My 8 month old son has more patience and tact than you do!

There is no such thing as "cryptographic proof of delivery" in PayPal User Agreement. PayPal Seller Protection does not apply to intangible items.

https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/ua/useragreement-full

Also PayPal is known to classify Bitcoin trades under "currency exchange", which is prohibited in their Acceptable Use Policy.

https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/ua/acceptableuse-full

[AnnaPrague]

I might come as a surprise to you, but there are millions of things not included in paypal user agreement but still used and accepted by paypal.
like this cryptographic proof of delivery
https://paxful.com/trade/receipt/ece36c82-4afa-5e2d-8261-363df0ec3953

and you are contradicting yourself . If you think that user agreement is paypal bible, then there is no statement in paypal user agreement that bitcoin sale is a currency exchange.
When it comes to chargebacks I bet I know 100 times more than you do. I am fighting chargebacks pretty much every single week. As any trader on paxful does. Was scammed for thousands of USD, as any pro trader on paxful or LBC was. And I can compare it to 10 year history of chargebacks on ebay, tangible item sales. And that is exactly why I can offer safe way of trading to any of my partners, short term or long term. Because I know the drill like very few people do.

Paypal changed their outlook on bitcoin trading long time ago. at least 6 months or so. If item was paid with paypal balance and the chargeback type is " not delivered " or "not as described" it will be easy to resolve. if you don't win it right away you win it on appeal

if it is unauthorized chargeback it depends. I won't list the factors here in order not to educate scammers. But in any case, unauthorized chargebacks are fought with police and FBI, IC3, not toothless paypal.
And in any case everything can be mitigated and agreements can be made. Offline. paypal is not the universe we live in, it is a minuscule part of it.    

There is no such thing as "cryptographic proof of delivery" in PayPal User Agreement. PayPal Seller Protection does not apply to intangible items.

https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/ua/useragreement-full

Also PayPal is known to classify Bitcoin trades under "currency exchange", which is prohibited in their Acceptable Use Policy.

https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/ua/acceptableuse-full

I have sent you and patatas the selfie that you requested, so now I am waiting for you to keep your promise and change the review to neutral

[suchmoon]

I might come as a surprise to you, but there are millions of things not included in paypal user agreement but still used and accepted by paypal.
like this cryptographic proof of delivery
https://paxful.com/trade/receipt/ece36c82-4afa-5e2d-8261-363df0ec3953

and you are contradicting yourself . If you think that user agreement is paypal bible, then there is no statement in paypal user agreement that bitcoin sale is a currency exchange.
When it comes to chargebacks I bet I know 100 times more than you do. I am fighting chargebacks pretty much every single week. As any trader on paxful does. Was scammed for thousands of USD, as any pro trader on paxful or LBC was. And I can compare it to 10 year history of chargebacks on ebay, tangible item sales. And that is exactly why I can offer safe way of trading to any of my partners, short term or long term. Because I know the drill like very few people do.

Paypal changed their outlook on bitcoin trading long time ago. at least 6 months or so. If item was paid with paypal balance and the chargeback type is " not delivered " or "not as described" it will be easy to resolve. if you don't win it right away you win it on appeal

if it is unauthorized chargeback it depends. I won't list the factors here in order not to educate scammers. But in any case, unauthorized chargebacks are fought with police and FBI, IC3, not toothless paypal.
And in any case everything can be mitigated and agreements can be made. Offline. paypal is not the universe we live in, it is a minuscule part of it.    

How does any of that help people who SELL you their Bitcoins for YOUR PayPal? You claim that you "know the drill" but they can get fucked by PayPal regardless.

Your attitude might be cool on paxful but here you're just another troll. "I bet I know 100 times more than you do" says everything anyone needs to know when dealing with you. If you want to just advertise your paxful service here - I don't care as long as the mods tolerate it, but if you try trading PayPal directly on here you'll get a permanent neg from me.

[RoughLyfe]

IF this is AnnaPrague from Paxful,I can personally vouch for her as I've dealt with her in the past and today as well.I was trying to contact you on paxful about a long term partnership.Contact me on there as I have access to a lot of bitcoin.Username is the same thing,RoughLyfe

[Xch4ng3]

@suchmoon
instead of being an ignorant asshole and marking the post as "offering false assurances" and basically naming me a scammer without any substantiation you should have waited at least couple of hours for my reply. My reputation on paxful speaks for itself plus, moron, I can provide IDs,  notarized contract and bank guarantees, and you are just a pretentious son of a bitch ignorant that there are professionals capable of resolving ANY business difficulty and therefore a scumbag for not even considering that the person conversing with you is honest!
Before naming a person a scammer you should listen to them and give a chance to defend their position

ASSHOLE!

Your reputation on paxful - if that's even your account - doesn't mean much here. I did not call you a scammer, I'm pointing out PayPal risks. However I'm willing to revise my feedback to neutral if you (a) post your real mugshot on paxful and (b) add this to the description: "I'm also known as AnnaPrague on Bitcointalk." Shouldn't be too hard considering the trustworthy image you're trying to project. Call me asshole or PM me once more and the offer is off the table - I don't like dealing with petulant children on the intertubes, I have some of my own.

I'm not on anyone's side but you do realise those reverse image searches are from the same domain? So really your accusation doesn't really hold any value, because this:

revise my feedback to neutral if you (a) post your real mugshot on paxful and (b) add this to the description: "I'm also known as AnnaPrague on Bitcointalk.

Does make you sound like an asshole, especially if you're throwing baseless and invalid.

Your reputation on other trading platforms means nothing here.In case you don't know,people sell reputed accounts from all other places on this forum,so we never know if that's actually you or the previous owner who sold you the account.As suchmoon said,prove your identity holding a piece of paper with your name and today's date on it,you're good to go.He should verify and revise your feedback then.

You're right, the accounts could have been stolen but suchmoons accusation is rubbish, because all those pictures resolve back to the same domain, so the picture itself wasn't stolen. Google is just returning results under the same domain. @OP, while you may be verified on Paxum, you should confirm that you and the person on Paxum are the same - would shut people up who like to throw baseless accusations around

FYI - I've had PayPal accounts that were permanently banned (no chance of appeal) but after LOTS of phone calls and convincing, I managed to get a few unlocked. Not everything is set in stone.

Good luck with this.

[suchmoon]

You're right, the accounts could have been stolen but suchmoons accusation is rubbish, because all those pictures resolve back to the same domain, so the picture itself wasn't stolen. Google is just returning results under the same domain. @OP, while you may be verified on Paxum, you should confirm that you and the person on Paxum are the same - would shut people up who like to throw baseless accusations around

Have you even read the thread? OP posted the message on Paxful, my feedback has been revised to neutral. It doesn't make PayPal any safer though, which is the bigger problem here.

I never said the picture was stolen, not sure where you got that from. I did have some doubts about the OP being the same as the Paxful person but that has been cleared up.