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April 06, 2016, 07:15:49 PM
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I have decided to invest in BTC to protect my liberity against the order.The order and governing forces decides when the nations enter war, when they announce peace, sign treaties, etc.Well, when I have heard of BTC I was suspicious, could it be a trojan horse among the highly intelligent and intellectual people.After, I decided it was not a trojan horse but an oppurtunity.

 
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April 06, 2016, 08:14:30 PM
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I'd thoroughly recommend reading Orwell's 'Road To Wigan Pier'. Always gets overlooked by 1984 but it's still a classic (non fiction) book to read.

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Just step out of your front door and you'll see.

No, i dont see it. They failed to create a police state.

-NSA recording everything you do for future selective enforcement if you become politically inconvenient
NOT A POLICE STATE

-Police driving mine resistant tanks down the streets all over the country
NOT A POLICE STATE

-Removal of your right to due process because the police said they smelled something
NOT A POLICE STATE

-1% of the entire country's population in prison
NOT A POLICE STATE

-Losing your freedom for possessing a plant
NOT A POLICE STATE

-Having your home, car, and anything you own seized without criminal charges never to be returned
NOT A POLICE STATE

-Being 58 times more likely to die by a cop than a terrorist
NOT A POLICE STATE

-Normalized road side finger rape in full view of the public
NOT A POLICE STATE

-Running sting operations in high schools and harassing mentally disabled and other marginalized students into buying drugs
NOT A POLICE STATE

-Being arrested for resisting arrest
NOT A POLICE STATE

-Children's lemonade stands being shut down all over the country for not having the proper permits
NOT A POLICE STATE

-96% of crime committed by police not prosecuted
NOT A POLICE STATE

-Disciplining non-violent children in schools with violence, arrest, and criminal charges
NOT A POLICE STATE

-Blaming a baby in a crib for having its face burnt off by a police flashbang
NOT A POLICE STATE

-Requiring genital fondling or cancer causing radiation exposure in order to get on an airplane
NOT A POLICE STATE



I could do more but I am getting bored stating the obvious.



I dont live in USA you know... Grin
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April 06, 2016, 08:23:27 PM
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   Have you read George Orwell?What do you think about police states, has not he made very accurate estimations?I have seen many topics about World War 3?Are you serious is it the world war 3?

   Let me count some of the world wars: Korea, Vietnam, Afgan, etc....

   There is a world war at every 10 years.What do you think?

   

It was uncanny how right Orwell was about so many things. We live in a world so similar to the one he made to warn us
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April 06, 2016, 08:26:41 PM
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I'd thoroughly recommend reading Orwell's 'Road To Wigan Pier'. Always gets overlooked by 1984 but it's still a classic (non fiction) book to read.

@catch.me.if.you.can

Just step out of your front door and you'll see.

No, i dont see it. They failed to create a police state.

-NSA recording everything you do for future selective enforcement if you become politically inconvenient
NOT A POLICE STATE

-Police driving mine resistant tanks down the streets all over the country
NOT A POLICE STATE

-Removal of your right to due process because the police said they smelled something
NOT A POLICE STATE

-1% of the entire country's population in prison
NOT A POLICE STATE

-Losing your freedom for possessing a plant
NOT A POLICE STATE

-Having your home, car, and anything you own seized without criminal charges never to be returned
NOT A POLICE STATE

-Being 58 times more likely to die by a cop than a terrorist
NOT A POLICE STATE

-Normalized road side finger rape in full view of the public
NOT A POLICE STATE

-Running sting operations in high schools and harassing mentally disabled and other marginalized students into buying drugs
NOT A POLICE STATE

-Being arrested for resisting arrest
NOT A POLICE STATE

-Children's lemonade stands being shut down all over the country for not having the proper permits
NOT A POLICE STATE

-96% of crime committed by police not prosecuted
NOT A POLICE STATE

-Disciplining non-violent children in schools with violence, arrest, and criminal charges
NOT A POLICE STATE

-Blaming a baby in a crib for having its face burnt off by a police flashbang
NOT A POLICE STATE

-Requiring genital fondling or cancer causing radiation exposure in order to get on an airplane
NOT A POLICE STATE



I could do more but I am getting bored stating the obvious.



I dont live in USA you know... Grin

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April 06, 2016, 08:53:53 PM
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Maybe Orwell was fun of police states but i dont see any "1984" police state now.

If you dont live in a cave they have cameras on you all the time, you use a mobile phone, you can be tracked.
You are supporting Isis they are on to you.

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April 06, 2016, 09:08:45 PM
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I think it is amazing how he predicted electronic spying in an age when television was a relatively new invention. He was definitely a visionary.

Definitely. He predicted internet before there was no internet -at least it's not known for public, it was only for military use at that time- and today's world everyobdy share their info public without any government force. You can see most people's private life in their Instagram and Facebook accounts.
1984 is not a fiction, it's the most on point reality we've ever read. Futuristic vision by Orwell.
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April 06, 2016, 09:45:53 PM
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That was a bunch of oversimplified Huxley dick sucking...

Of course it's oversimplified, what did you expect from pictures?

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for the sole purpose of shilling a book

Shilling for 1931 public domain book of long-dead author? Sure thing lad.

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Stop wasting our time with that garbage.

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April 06, 2016, 10:15:50 PM
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Rod Serling, creator of the beloved sci fi series Twilight Zone and one of the most insightful commentators on human nature, once observed, “We’re developing a new citizenry. One that will be very selective about cereals and automobiles, but won’t be able to think.”
Not only are we developing a new citizenry incapable of thinking for themselves, we’re also instilling in them a complete and utter reliance on the government and its corporate partners to do everything for them—tell them what to eat, what to wear, how to think, what to believe, how long to sleep, who to vote for, whom to associate with, and on and on.
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April 07, 2016, 01:24:54 AM
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I think that was the worst system of police. If that was real, I can't imagine.

about the war every ten years, are you serious?
what are the proofs? why do you conclude this pattern?

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I dont live in USA you know... Grin

Yes, I am sure where you live is MUCH much better. Care to share with the class what country that is? Its easy to just make claims without actually disclosing where you live.

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That was a bunch of oversimplified Huxley dick sucking...

Of course it's oversimplified, what did you expect from pictures?

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for the sole purpose of shilling a book

Shilling for 1931 public domain book of long-dead author? Sure thing lad.

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Stop wasting our time with that garbage.

Nothing of value was wasted and you know it.


nope, try again laddy 1985
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amusing_Ourselves_to_Death

They oversimplified all of Orwell's contributions and then talked up everything Huxley did. That was not a reasonable comparison at all. Regardless about the book it was just a bunch of Huxley dick sucking, and yes a waste of time.
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April 07, 2016, 11:06:01 AM
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Maybe Orwell was fun of police states but i dont see any "1984" police state now.

If you dont live in a cave they have cameras on you all the time, you use a mobile phone, you can be tracked.
You are supporting Isis they are on to you.

Oh, Im so scared! lol
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nope, try again laddy 1985
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amusing_Ourselves_to_Death

They oversimplified all of Orwell's contributions and then talked up everything Huxley did. That was not a reasonable comparison at all. Regardless about the book it was just a bunch of Huxley dick sucking, and yes a waste of time.

OK, guess I gotta give you this one.

Didn't even know AOtD was a book, found that pic in quick "Huxley vs Orwell" google search.

Anyhow, despite the motive and accuracy to what Huxley/Orwell actually wrote, still few good points there.



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April 10, 2016, 09:04:24 AM
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Maybe Orwell was fun of police states but i dont see any "1984" police state now.

If you dont live in a cave they have cameras on you all the time, you use a mobile phone, you can be tracked.
You are supporting Isis they are on to you.

Yes im supporting Isis. What do you expect? To support Merkel?
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April 10, 2016, 02:02:38 PM
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   Have you read George Orwell?What do you think about police states, has not he made very accurate estimations?I have seen many topics about World War 3?Are you serious is it the world war 3?

   Let me count some of the world wars: Korea, Vietnam, Afgan, etc....

   There is a world war at every 10 years.What do you think?

   

Yes, I read 1984 from Orwell but I think that he wrote even better book- Animal Farm, which really showed very well origin of political corruption in our society.
We had police states even before Orwell wrote his famous book but now, thanks to the new technology, and many cameras around us, state can find much more info about us than before.In my opinion, we already had WW III,  it was so called ''Cold War'' between USSR and USA, which, thanks to god, didn't end up in real, ''hot'' war.
Now, we have WW IV, war between Islam radicals and Western democracy.



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April 10, 2016, 03:18:31 PM
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Oh, come on, do you believe this stupid book? I dont see any cameras, or police state. Orwell had big imagination.
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April 10, 2016, 06:21:36 PM
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From Isaac Asimov (1920-1992), Russian born American biochemist and prolific author of both fiction and non-fiction, Foundation (1951):

-The fall of Empire, gentlemen, is a massive thing, however, and not easily fought. It is dictated by a rising bureaucracy, a receding initiative, a freezing of caste, a damming of curiosity—a hundred other factors. It has been going on, as I have said, for centuries, and it is too majestic and massive a movement to stop.-

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Oh, come on, do you believe this stupid book? I dont see any cameras, or police state. Orwell had big imagination.

You sure about that


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April 10, 2016, 09:31:06 PM
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We got some Oxykids shooting each other daily and because of that the police have not been able to do their jobs.Guess what the answer is to the problem?
Its more cameras and now they have direct access and do not need to file any reports to get access. They plan to increase the traffic cameras and sure it will turn more into
a surveillance state as the year goes on. Its amazing to see people so eager to wave their privacy for the better good.

Here is how quick the cops could handle this. If they used the competitions method of calling the competitors cell phone and arranging a buy and then shooting at them,they could catch more by just calling the number and waiting for them to arrive. But it seems like they are overrun and do not know how to handle the issue.
Its such a joke and obvious that there is a agenda in play to strip citizens of their rights.

Was stopped by a cop last summer because a crime had happened in the area and I had left my wallet in my other work jeans. They scolded me and said they could give me a large fine for not carrying identification and where giving me this attitude like I was suspicious for walking down the street. They proceed to tell me that if I do not have my identity I must know my password that is linked to the id and because I do not know that either this is a issue. Turns out the password is your mothers maiden name which is a question they ask when you renew your license but not a actual password. Cop was misleading and attempting to drum up a issue.

They have trouble recruiting so the people are getting more dumb and more power hungry in personality. No one respects cops like they used to.
Sunglasses on,never get out of their cars and always late to a call.

Bet if you compare these issues they are similar across the board.

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April 11, 2016, 05:53:38 AM
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I think it's generally the case in many countries that they try to compensate the missing police manpower with more cameras. Though they don't even have enough people to use the material. So it's only helpful after something happened. For evidence. No higher security for citizens from that. Crimes will still happen.

And terrorism? It's proven that it did not help against it. Why should it? They are professionals and surely won't be catched by some stupid camera so they can be stopped.

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I write in public that i support isis and nobody arrest me! lol Where is the orwellian state? lol lol
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