RayBrady reversed payment on 0.51BTC purchase

[sidehack]

What happened:: RayBrady reversed payment on 0.51BTC purchase

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=602532

Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1357971.0
Amount Scammed: $216 for 0.51BTC
Payment Method: PayPal (Goods/Services)
Proof of Payment: https://blockchain.info/tx/329bc5bdca476d5bb503b592efb4a2488d9d319cbf21745dff2f7d1f67c69601
PM/Chat Logs: quoted below
Additional Notes:

$216 PayPal in USD atm, looking for Bitcoin. Saw your thread, if you can do this for me tonight maybe we can deal now, just reply within a couple mins before I hit the sheets

- Ray

That'd get you 0.5BTC

That'd get you 0.5BTC

Okay. I assume, I go first? You think you can? If I am, e-mail to send to + terms?

Paypal can be sent to sales@gekkoscience.com - send it as goods. Or should I invoice you?

I'll need your receive address for the coins. And you consent to a butt-kickin' if you reverse the transaction on me.

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Coon Chicken Inn sent you $216.00 USD
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Transaction ID: 5RW21773JV124671U
Hello GekkoScience,



Just thought you'd like to know Coon Chicken Inn sent you $216.00 USD.

Get the details
https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/?cmd=_view-a-trans&id=5RW21773JV124671U

Paypal can be sent to sales@gekkoscience.com - send it as goods. Or should I invoice you?

I'll need your receive address for the coins. And you consent to a butt-kickin' if you reverse the transaction on me.

Yah sent it as goods.  don't worry about a reversal from me.

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Well I wasn't worried about a reversal last time either and the jackass reversed it in like 40 minutes. Try to do a guy a favor, lose $200.

Well I wasn't worried about a reversal last time either and the jackass reversed it in like 40 minutes. Try to do a guy a favor, lose $200.

Yeah I've experienced similar. PayPal's terrible at handling the situations too. Either they roll dice to see who wins, or the people who look into the disputes just skim over it in half a second, see if evidence is given on either side, and then clicks red or blue.

Not really worth it on my side, not only for my rep, but my actual PayPal account too. (Yeah, I value it (yes, a positive number) )

Well anyways, it's sent now.

https://blockchain.info/tx/329bc5bdca476d5bb503b592efb4a2488d9d319cbf21745dff2f7d1f67c69601

Well anyways, it's sent now.

Confirmed received. Thanks again, left some trust. Have a good night 

Hello GekkoScience,

An unauthorized account activity claim was recently filed against the
following transaction.


Buyer's name: Coon Chicken Inn
Buyer's email: coonchicken@outlook.com
Transaction ID: 89U058393T2626505

Transaction date: Apr 6, 2016
Transaction amount: $216.00 USD
Your transaction ID: 5RW21773JV124671U
Case number: PP-004-733-175-093

So uh, so I just got notice of a PayPal reversal. Is this a mistake, or are you in fact a bastard? Just figured I should check before throwing a fit in public, in case it's a mistake.

If he gets this cleared up soon, I'll take it down. But for now, I've heard nothing back and must proceed on the assumption that RayBrady is either a right bastard or an account hacked by one.

[Timelord2067]

Why would s/he stop and leave you positive trust / feedback if they were going to scam?

sidehack 44: -0 / +6   2016-04-07   0.50000000      I sent first, sidehack was responsive and completed the deal quickly.

Am I missing something?

[sardasa]

Why would s/he stop and leave you positive trust / feedback if they were going to scam?

sidehack 44: -0 / +6   2016-04-07   0.50000000      I sent first, sidehack was responsive and completed the deal quickly.

Am I missing something?

They left the trust as soon as the deal got completed & after 24 hours of deal completion they reversed the payment.

[sidehack]

I got an email from PayPal just a bit ago and the case is resolved in my favor. So either they ruled on it or the claim was dropped. No communication from RayBrady yet.

[Timelord2067]

Why would s/he stop and leave you positive trust / feedback if they were going to scam?

sidehack 44: -0 / +6   2016-04-07   0.50000000      I sent first, sidehack was responsive and completed the deal quickly.

Am I missing something?

They left the trust as soon as the deal got completed & after 24 hours of deal completion they reversed the payment.

Ah ok, thanks - makes sense sort of...

I wonder if this person was one half of the 50/50 PayPal scam being touted elsewhere on the forum?

[ElMoIsEviL]

I got an email from PayPal just a bit ago and the case is resolved in my favor. So either they ruled on it or the claim was dropped. No communication from RayBrady yet.

I am happy for you that you got your money back now you should take this trade as warning and not doing any more paypal deals for such high ammount + he is only full member so the account is never worth that much money.

Such people are the reason why no one like to take paypal for bitcoins anymore

[sidehack]

Yeah, I'm out of the game. I've got a short list of people I do trust, and anyone else is SOL. I'll chalk up selling coin as a failure and go back to the hardware forum.

[BayAreaCoins]

I got an email from PayPal just a bit ago and the case is resolved in my favor. So either they ruled on it or the claim was dropped. No communication from RayBrady yet.

W0W so you got the money back!?!

I've NEVER seen that. 

Congrats if you did dude.

[FriendlyChemist]

I got an email from PayPal just a bit ago and the case is resolved in my favor. So either they ruled on it or the claim was dropped. No communication from RayBrady yet.

Brother can you tel us how or what you replied to Paypal investigators such that the case was in your favor , all i find is that whenever there is case of unauthorized payment then there is loss of receiver.

[sidehack]

It could have been some sort of error, honestly. RayBrady messaged me this afternoon:

So uh, so I just got notice of a PayPal reversal. Is this a mistake, or are you in fact a bastard? Just figured I should check before throwing a fit in public, in case it's a mistake.

I'm here, I just saw this, and no it was not on purpose. Just got back, going to call up and see what the fuck they want.

So it could be that somehow the transaction was flagged erroneously and then unflagged. I haven't heard more from him yet regarding what he might have found out. If it turns out to be the case, this thread is moot.

But really all I did was give PayPal the exact same info I put in the first post here.

[ElMoIsEviL]

Paypal will mark it as on hold or under investigation but not as unauthorized if he did not called paypal or filled it online and by accident he can not do it because it needs a few clicks to do so i think he failed and now try to safe his account

[rezilient]

Paypal will mark it as on hold or under investigation but not as unauthorized if he did not called paypal or filled it online and by accident he can not do it because it needs a few clicks to do so i think he failed and now try to safe his account

i find this as an annoying post.

[ElMoIsEviL]

Why? Call paypal or ask other people paypal will not mark it by themself as  unauthorized account activity but sorry that i posted what i think i will remove it if you are more happy

https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/?cmd=xpt/CaseManagement/general/WFUnAuthIntTransID-outside

[rezilient]

Why? Call paypal or ask other people paypal will not mark it by themself as  unauthorized account activity but sorry that i posted what i think i will remove it if you are more happy

https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/?cmd=xpt/CaseManagement/general/WFUnAuthIntTransID-outside

can you please post in the off-topic section rather than shit posting everywhere.

[sidehack]

Can you please leave if you're not going to contribute to the conversation, but instead rail against people who are?

[xetsr]

It could have been some sort of error, honestly. RayBrady messaged me this afternoon:

So uh, so I just got notice of a PayPal reversal. Is this a mistake, or are you in fact a bastard? Just figured I should check before throwing a fit in public, in case it's a mistake.

I'm here, I just saw this, and no it was not on purpose. Just got back, going to call up and see what the fuck they want.

So it could be that somehow the transaction was flagged erroneously and then unflagged. I haven't heard more from him yet regarding what he might have found out. If it turns out to be the case, this thread is moot.

But really all I did was give PayPal the exact same info I put in the first post here.

You might have been lucky enough to get a inexperienced kid who tried to pull a fast one without understanding how PayPal and unauthorized claims work.

This is rare so you shouldn't let this one win change your mind on selling for PayPal again.

[suchmoon]

It could have been some sort of error, honestly. RayBrady messaged me this afternoon:

So uh, so I just got notice of a PayPal reversal. Is this a mistake, or are you in fact a bastard? Just figured I should check before throwing a fit in public, in case it's a mistake.

I'm here, I just saw this, and no it was not on purpose. Just got back, going to call up and see what the fuck they want.

So it could be that somehow the transaction was flagged erroneously and then unflagged. I haven't heard more from him yet regarding what he might have found out. If it turns out to be the case, this thread is moot.

But really all I did was give PayPal the exact same info I put in the first post here.

Sometimes PayPal does flag transactions automatically for a 24-hour review, but:

1) this is usually done immediately after payment
2) one of your quotes in the OP says "An unauthorized account activity claim was recently filed", which implies that the sender filed a claim. A review would sound something like this "SCAM SCAMMER just sent you money with PayPal. To help protect you, we're reviewing this payment."

Anyway, the good news is that you got it back and the sender can't file another claim for the same reason. Hopefully it's just some kind of misunderstanding but still watch out for "item not delivered", "not as described", or a credit card chargeback. PayPal is the worst for BTC trades.

[ElMoIsEviL]

Sorry to tell you suchmoon he can still make appeal and it will be again on hold and his money will he on hold

[Timelord2067]

Sorry to tell you suchmoon he can still make appeal and it will be again on hold and his money will he on hold

@ElMoIsEviL What happened to your Elmo pic over yonder ^---- ?

[realestone]

i would avoid using paypal for anything btc related ive seen it end in horror for so many people on this forum