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September 03, 2016, 03:14:51 PM
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And in the same progression, do the math for a martingale... far riskier. Calculate the win amount on what I just showed:

1         -1
2         -3
3         -6
4         -10
5 W      0
10 W    10
20 W    30
1          29
2          27
3          27
6 lose    21
1          20
2          18
3          15
4 W      19
8 W      27
16 lose  18
1          17
2          15
3 W       18
6 W       24
12 W     36 win

MARTINGALE

Martingaling the SAME sequence, a 2x doubling on each loss = 8 WIN

36 VS 8

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September 04, 2016, 01:22:46 PM
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September 04, 2016, 03:56:37 PM
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thought the base bet is 100bits but it turns out 1000 on your screenshot? can you please explain more in english pls if you know what i mean Smiley

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September 04, 2016, 04:00:35 PM
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thought the base bet is 100bits but it turns out 1000 on your screenshot? can you please explain more in english pls if you know what i mean Smiley

Your base can be whatever. Its just a unit. A metric.

If your base is 2000, you use 2000 as the base, and increase 2000 on losses, and double each win for 2 wins, going back after a 3rd win.

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September 04, 2016, 04:04:29 PM
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thanks for this mate let me see if i will lucky using your method as we all knew that dice game needed more luck even we have good strategy.
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September 04, 2016, 04:36:12 PM
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thought the base bet is 100bits but it turns out 1000 on your screenshot? can you please explain more in english pls if you know what i mean Smiley

Your base can be whatever. Its just a unit. A metric.

If your base is 2000, you use 2000 as the base, and increase 2000 on losses, and double each win for 2 wins, going back after a 3rd win.

alright let's see how it goes Smiley

thanks for this mate let me see if i will lucky using your method as we all knew that dice game needed more luck even we have good strategy.


strategy is 50/50.... if you are lucky and have a goal...
you'll profit

otherwise

you'll end up empty.

goodluck guys

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September 04, 2016, 07:54:39 PM
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i try your strategy with 100.000bets. my result: you dont have enough 3 times win, to cover the loss after 2 times 2win.
Can you show us a proof that the strategy for you work?
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September 04, 2016, 07:58:46 PM
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Why don't you suck the casinos dry if this is working?

In gambling, either you are lucky or not. If you are lucky, you beat the casino, take every penny they got away from them and you became the new casino. If not, you lose everything you got.

If this strategy have worked, there wouldn't be any casinos doing any business out there by now.

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September 04, 2016, 09:02:05 PM
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And in the same progression, do the math for a martingale... far riskier. Calculate the win amount on what I just showed:

1         -1
2         -3
3         -6
4         -10
5 W      0         <-    -5
10 W    10
20 W    30
1          29
2          27
3          27       <-   Huh maybe 3 W    30
6 lose    21
1          20
2          18
3          15
4 W      19
8 W      27
16 lose  18       <-    11
1          17
2          15
3 W       18
6 W       24
12 W     36 win

MARTINGALE

Martingaling the SAME sequence, a 2x doubling on each loss = 8 WIN

36 VS 8


U messed up in your own system three times  Cheesy

It would be 27 VS 9

But showing one sequence which works better for your system then martingale is pretty naive.

I can give u a better strategy for your sequence:
Keep betting 1 and bet 10 every fifth bet xD

Would be 32 VS 27 for my system  Shocked


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September 04, 2016, 09:51:29 PM
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a really nice strategy to be honest, i hope it will make me big money
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September 05, 2016, 05:50:48 PM
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SO i can give you my bets of your strategy.
This dont work!!!
Can you give me your chart, so i can believe you.



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September 05, 2016, 06:20:56 PM
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SO i can give you my bets of your strategy.
This dont work!!!
Can you give me your chart, so i can believe you.





5000 bets it nothing for conclusion about strategy.  Made at least 500 000 bets!
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September 05, 2016, 06:41:54 PM
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SO i can give you my bets of your strategy.
This dont work!!!
Can you give me your chart, so i can believe you.





5000 bets it nothing for conclusion about strategy.  Made at least 500 000 bets!
i made. this is only an example...believe me the house is king
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September 05, 2016, 07:27:52 PM
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strategy is 50/50.... if you are lucky and have a goal...
you'll profit

otherwise

you'll end up empty.

goodluck guys
If this is 50/50 win/lose situation then how you can call it a strategy in the first place?
Do you have strategy for coin toss too? Toss is and pray it will be up with the side you chose? Cheesy
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September 06, 2016, 04:44:24 PM
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Hope you continue doing well with your system but from my experience like everyone else says any system is only profitable short term and the longer you play the more likely the house takes your money
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September 06, 2016, 07:48:01 PM
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strategy is 50/50.... if you are lucky and have a goal...
you'll profit

otherwise

you'll end up empty.

goodluck guys
If this is 50/50 win/lose situation then how you can call it a strategy in the first place?
Do you have strategy for coin toss too? Toss is and pray it will be up with the side you chose? Cheesy

if its not 50/50 how do you call it? Smiley

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September 10, 2016, 09:58:12 AM
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And in the same progression, do the math for a martingale... far riskier. Calculate the win amount on what I just showed:

1         -1
2         -3
3         -6
4         -10
5 W      0         <-    -5
10 W    10
20 W    30
1          29
2          27
3          27       <-   Huh maybe 3 W    30
6 lose    21
1          20
2          18
3          15
4 W      19
8 W      27
16 lose  18       <-    11
1          17
2          15
3 W       18
6 W       24
12 W     36 win

MARTINGALE

Martingaling the SAME sequence, a 2x doubling on each loss = 8 WIN

36 VS 8


U messed up in your own system three times  Cheesy

It would be 27 VS 9

But showing one sequence which works better for your system then martingale is pretty naive.

I can give u a better strategy for your sequence:
Keep betting 1 and bet 10 every fifth bet xD

Would be 32 VS 27 for my system  Shocked

He screwed up his math on his quick example. But his posted chart is correct from what I'm looking at.

I tried this a while back just playing for fun, I was more interested in gaming/bitcoin/commerce, and tried this out when the OP originally posted.

My conclusion was: The house does indeed have edge, you cannot turn -EV into +EV and vice versa.

However, when I did play this strategy, it's pretty easy to hit 3 streaks when playing 2x odds. I tried a few variants of my own, shooting for 4 streaks, and so on.

The long short of it is:  If you have a decent bankroll, or budget your bets correctly, you can withstand a swing down before the swing up. I ended up in profit. Hitting if I remember correctly a 3x streak after 6 losses.

Granted I just playing around, I think my base was 0.00000100. But it resulted in I guess:

An initial loss of 0.00002100 (6 losses upping 1 step per loss).

Then I won on 7th.

700 win
1400 win
2800 win
- 2100 loss from first 6 rolls.
0.00002880 Net Profit

Now had I been playing at a base of 0.10, the win would have been 2.8BTC.

3 streaks, no so uncommon. The question is how many do you allow yourself to lose before going back to reset. His chart goes to 30.

Using Martingale, you'd be busted out, by 20ish most likely.

With this, if you were so unlucky to roll 30 losses, then only 1 win and then lose-- math in my head tells me, your loss would be under 0.01BTC using the 1000 satoshi base.

If you rolled 30 losses and then rolled 3 wins, the payout would be 0.00210000.

Using this system, 30 is survivable.

The sweet spot seems to be around 6-7 losses... best returns around there. Lose 6 or 7, hit a 3 streak. But any 3 streak in any series will profit.

House always wins... if you keep playin!

Cheers!

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December 24, 2016, 02:40:37 PM
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I have a question about the "method". if you lose, let's say  5 in a row and then you win one and you double the best, but you lose again, you go back to base bet right? Same after the second win? thanks!
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July 15, 2017, 02:58:11 AM
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Thanks a lot for this bot. i ve been trying it for a couple of hours and i had a losing streak of 13 on dice but nevertheless i ve been profiting anyway. with classic martingale my 48000 doges would be zero now while now i have 48424 lol. its an old thread but i want to keep it alive. is that possible admin? it seems worth it. will give more updates if needed, thanks! Smiley
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July 07, 2018, 02:02:45 PM
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I know it is very old thread. But just wanted to post my openion. I tried so many strategies. But out of all those, i prefer to advise febo. One up on loss and 2 down on win with 49.50 winning chances. It is not to critise any one. It is just my openion. If i hurt any one, i am ready to remove this comment and say sorry. thank you very much
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