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April 08, 2016, 11:38:12 AM
Last edit: March 26, 2017, 08:56:15 AM by BitcoinNational
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work in progress
ps ... prefer the old moniker ... MRO (Monero)


principle 1
general advice is to accumulate
Doge LTC MRO UNO as you can, when you can, almost at all times
EDIT: ETH too now ... it is a major trader, plus learn the USDT pairs

principle 2
Use LTC and Doge as liquids  (move with general btc price trends)
EDIT: use XMR too now ... has moved above Doge in volume/capital

principle 3
Use XMR as part liquid & as part store of value ($1 basis)
moot XMR now has cleared $1 forevermore and has higher cost/day due to emissions .. so XMR shifts fully to p.2


principle 4
Use UNO as cold storage offline store of value ($3.00 basis)/(o.oo5ooooo satos basis) .. if under that BUY!!!


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http://bitcoinblockhalf.com/
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The Shitcoiner's Guide to Shitcoin Logic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1430839.0
Lies Bagholders Tell Themselves https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1059045.140
Bitcoins are a prisoner's dilemma and not possible to beat adaptive alt coins https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1449592.0
the now inescapable conclusion that it has failed https://medium.com/@octskyward/the-resolution-of-the-bitcoin-experiment-dabb30201f7
Better metric for altcoin ADOPTION marketsize than manipulated marketcap&volume? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1426481.0
total trading volume summarized http://cryptocoincharts.info/coins/graphicalComparison
Tales from the trading floor of the Bitcoin markets by r0ach https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1455386.0
my honest question to all anons https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1438311.msg14669148#msg14669148
[ltc] To remember WHY Litecoin is a good investment https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1339992.msg13671770#msg13671770
[ltc] Litecoin IS Bitcoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1590080.0
[ltc] Litecoins market cap pretty consistent at around 2% of Bitcoins https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1430685.0
[ltc] Litecoin is showing nice stability  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1431798.0
[LTC] TX speed https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1551868.msg15597339#msg15597339
[LTC] Litecoin Speculation https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1452558.0
[doge] Why Doge coin is bad February 12, 2014 by sPoeTniK  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=461360.0
[doge] Predicted Price of dogecoin? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443771.0
[doge] Re: Dogecoin  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1488784.msg15011812#msg15011812
[doge] When Dogecoin halving? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1526275.new#new
[XMR] Monero Speculation https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.0
[XMR] Monero Improvement Technical Discussion https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1139756.0
[XMR] https://getmonero.org/getting-started/donate/hall-of-fame
[XMR] rpietila Monero Economics thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=702140
[XMR] rpietila Altcoin Observer  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=624223.0
[XMR] Why the bitmonero/monero Ninjalaunched Cripplemined Fastmine matters  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1435385.0
[XMR] THE RISE AND RISE OF MONERO  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1595182.0
[XMR] The Truth About Monero's Risto Pietila (rpietila XMR) - warning https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=793787.0
[uno] The case for merge mined coins  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1505824.0
[uno] WHICH COIN HAS THE LOWEST ANNUAL CREATION INFLATION ?  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1531387.20
[UNO] price per kilo <<guess-o-matic >> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1577545.0
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[PPC][XPM] Peercoin/Primecoin Weekly Updates https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=114994.0
[xXx] [NSFW] adult coins https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1428899.msg14601176#msg14601176
[xXx] [NSFW] Sexcoin Art Thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=432074.0
[AUR] Auroracoin market observer .. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1067036.0
[XVG] Verge - Speculation & Discussion  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1366103.0
[HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830958.400
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[eth] The Ethereum Paradox https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1361602.0
[eth]  How many Ether will be produced? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1413322.msg14608316#msg14608316
[eth] Ethereum is a billion dollar bubble https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1395886.msg14177530#msg14177530
[eth] Eth bubble has popped - Will you be left a bagholder? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1430553.msg14469158#msg14469158
[eth] End Of Ether  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1450985.0
[dash] Dash: The Future Internet Of Money? NOPE! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1430587.msg14483588#msg14483588
[dash] Why the darkcoin/dash instamine matters https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999886.0
[dash] SCAM Darkcoin instamine 2 millions DRKs (50% of darkcoin in circulation) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.0

next PUMP : 25.03.17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1840861.msg18337276#msg18337276  Uno Spring Rally CALLEd x2 overweekend  Wink

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Last edit: August 27, 2016, 04:46:33 PM by BitcoinNational
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the dirty dozen
upgraded 26616
==============
BTC ETH LTC
DOGE XMR UNO
ppc rdd black
dgb FTC xpm

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rookie squad
nmc (FTC) clam emer decred vrc bitcoinD Q nova ruby
btcd diem nxt maid qora xcp

markets:
https://poloniex.com/exchange#usdt_xmr
https://bter.com/trade/xmr_cny
https://c-cex.com/?lpm=usd&p=uno-usd

https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_xmr
https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-XMR
https://hitbtc.com/exchange/XMR-to-BTC

https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-uno
https://bleutrade.com/exchange/UNO/BTC
https://c-cex.com/?p=uno-btc

https://poloniex.com/exchange#xmr_ltc
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange?market=XMR_LTC
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange?market=UNO_LTC
https://c-cex.com/?p=uno-ltc

https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange?market=XMR_DOGE
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange?market=UNO_DOGE
https://bleutrade.com/exchange/UNO/DOGE
https://c-cex.com/?p=uno-doge

https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange?market=XMR_UNO
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange?market=BTCD_UNO
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange?market=BLK_UNO


https://poloniex.com/exchange#xmr_nxt
https://poloniex.com/exchange#xmr_maid
https://poloniex.com/exchange#xmr_dash
https://poloniex.com/exchange#xmr_xdn
https://poloniex.com/exchange#xmr_blk
https://poloniex.com/exchange#xmr_btcd

LTC_DOGE
https://c-cex.com/?p=ltc-doge
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange?market=DOGE_LTC
bleutrade.com bleu delisted their LTC market
https://novaexchange.com/market/LTC_DOGE/

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Last edit: April 20, 2016, 05:47:34 PM by BitcoinNational
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resources:[UNO][XMR][doge]

[UNO] http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/unobtanium/#markets
[XMR] http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/monero/?markets=all#markets

[UNO] https://www.reddit.com/r/unobtanium
[XMR] https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMarkets/

[UNO] https://twitter.com/unobtanium_uno
[XMR]

[UNO] http://www.unobtanium.uno/
[XMR] https://getmonero.org/home

[UNO] http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency/coins/unobtanium
[XMR] http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency/coins/monero

[XMR] http://chainradar.com/xmr/blocks
[UNO] https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/#!overview

[UNO]
[XMR] https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero

--[XMR]--
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monero_%28cryptocurrency%29
http://monero.org/
https://mymonero.com/
https://forum.getmonero.org/ (official)
https://monerotalk.org/
https://minergate.com/pool-stats/xmr

--[ doge]--
http://dogecoin.com/
https://dogechain.info/
http://dogepay.com/
http://www.doges.org/
https://www.reddit.com/r/doge
https://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin
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April 08, 2016, 12:15:00 PM
Last edit: June 26, 2016, 06:50:56 PM by BitcoinNational
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vitals:

inflation
Holding Costs of Daily Inflation / Network Expendentures

BTC   3600/day >> $420 >>> $1512000
ETH  28800/day >> $11.50 >>$0331200
LTC  14400/day >> $3.25 >>  $0046800
XMR 9600/day >> $1.50 >>>  $0014000
DSH  1567/day >> $7.20 >>> $0011282
PPc   9709/day >> $0.45 >>> $0004369
DOG  600k/day >> 54satos >>$0003400  == 7.92 BTC
UNO  003/day  >> $2.75 >>>  $0000009 == 0.02 BTC
estimates April 1 2016

annual rate
BTC   >>> 8.87%
ETH   >>>
LTC   >>>
XMR   >>>
DSH   >>>
PPc   >>>
DOG   >>>
UNO   >>> 0.37%

http://bitcoinblockhalf.com/
http://www.thehalvening.com


hash rate
I thus suggest an idea for a new metric for ranking altcoins.

Sqrt(M x H)
M = Mean transactions fees paid per unit time to decentralized proof-of-work miners
H = hash rate (normalized in electricity cost per hash to SHA256).

Using M = Sent avg. per hour, H = Hashrate (normalized):

Coin |Relative Adoption |Ratio |Adoption-adjusted Market Cap
1.Bitcoin6.5×10¹²1$6.4 billion
2.Namecoin8.6x10¹⁰1/76$85 million
3.Ethereum6.6x10¹⁰1/99$65 million
4.Litecoin1.3x10¹⁰1/500$13 million
5.Dash9.8x10⁹1/663$10 million
6.Blackcoin7.4x10⁸1/8784$0.7 million
7.Dogecoin6.1x10⁸1/10656$0.6 million
8.Auroracoin5.8x10⁶1/1120690$5,931
*UNO has the same tech as NMC (Merge mined with BTC), and pulls about the same hash as peer, but can scale to NMC levels given adoption by major pools.



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you need to recheck XMR average daily emission. I think your mistake was wrong interpret fork.
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Last edit: April 09, 2016, 04:04:30 PM by BitcoinNational
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Monero (XMR)
Network Hashrate: 25.67 MH/s
Block Reward: 13.1771
Blocks: 1,021,236
Block Time: 1.00 minute(s)
http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency/coins/monero

18974.88 xmr/day
for today

daily emission are not fixed but vary, correct?
by diff?

got links to "XMR average daily emissions"?

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Monero (XMR)
Network Hashrate: 25.67 MH/s
Block Reward: 13.1771
Blocks: 1,021,236
Block Time: 1.00 minute(s)
http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency/coins/monero

18974.88 xmr/day
for today

daily emission are not fixed but vary, correct?
by diff?

got links to "XMR average daily emissions"?



The block time is 2 minutes, it used to be 1 minute. Meaning, there are 720 blocks per day (used to be 1440).
The total emission was not touched - the block reward was readjusted according to the change of the # of blocks.
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Last edit: April 16, 2016, 06:58:39 AM by BitcoinNational
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yah, for real?, talk to coinwarz XMR, such unprofessionalz Grin
okay OP stuff updated, yah!

edit:
Block reward = (M - A) * 2-20 * 10-12
XMR will produce 15.48 million out of the total possible 18 million Monero in only 4 years
@ 11,6M now

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Last edit: April 09, 2016, 12:58:57 PM by BitcoinNational
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shiitty graphics inc.
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clue #1

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clue #2
something that invests in both A&B and balances the in between Wink

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April 08, 2016, 07:08:05 PM
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got links to "XMR average daily emissions"?

Here is a doc with the emission:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qXi7zUSIh7F6UuSuhOryyFbHEy_LJuym3I3neAga_2s/edit?pli=1#gid=239466694

This hasn't been adjusted yet to 2 minutes, but for inflation percentages that shouldn't matter.

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clue #3

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not needed
but you can still liquidate to btc
quickly Wink

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April 09, 2016, 02:15:15 PM
Last edit: April 12, 2016, 12:53:44 AM by BitcoinNational
 #13

clue #4

a wheel within wheels within wheels

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April 09, 2016, 03:12:38 PM
 #14

clue #5

programmable money, somewhat, but more about instantaneously transformable, so a core principle is best encapsulated with the term "ShapeShift" 

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 #15

clue #6

decentralized, redundant, robust, multifaceted

yes BTC is still integral but not imperial

it will demand to be the center of attention
but smarter eyes will route around Wink

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 #16

clue #7
Yarrrrrrrbitrage

(just let the BOTs do the quick thinking)

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April 09, 2016, 04:18:40 PM
Last edit: April 25, 2016, 08:51:16 AM by BitcoinNational
 #17

clue #8

a is like b yet not the same as b; and c differs from both a AND b; yet they all share similar properties; thus confusion.

A: currency
B: stock
C: store of value



A: asset (as in liquid currency)
B: business (as in they bring in the bucks :: business plan)
C: capital (as in keep your money preserved)

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April 09, 2016, 04:19:08 PM
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clue #9
no vape

functional / working / trading

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April 10, 2016, 03:45:28 AM
Last edit: April 10, 2016, 04:23:15 AM by BitcoinNational
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clue #10
peace of mind portfolios

work within the Golden Triangle Cool

the idea is now basically fully revealed.  
there is no get rich quick hot stock.  
but there is the ability hold and store wealth (and it scales nicely) (and you can use XMR to be discrete).
and you can still trade in 'the market' outside of the BTC base pairing.

A: monero & doge for liquidity assets (some LTC when the time/price is right)
B: business stock ... any coin that directly trades for XMR, DOGE, or UNO
C: store of value (cold storage offline) UNO

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April 12, 2016, 12:23:29 PM
Last edit: April 12, 2016, 01:01:22 PM by BitcoinNational
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re:Why I'm not putting even a dime into altcoins.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1432761.0

So let's put this debate to bed before it even happens ...

If you are in BTC Maximilist camp.  Great.  Goood for you Cheesy
Then please just politely move along.  You have your thread above, and many others.

To any one else, in the not sure camp, do your own due diligence, do your homework.  Ask TPTB_need_war or Spoetnik and I am sure they'd be happy to tell you 101 reasons never to buy an Alt coin.    

Please keep in mind this is the "Altcoin Discussion" section.  And this thread hopes to provide some wise direction for Alt coin buyers that seek the best of the better.  Not the hottest quickest buck, aka the next big pump/dump, just solid Alternatives to bitcoin.  More specifically the intent is to frame a strategy of investing that allows for a decoupling from BTC in price discovery, and yet maintain a pool of liquid reserves.


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