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February 11, 2013, 09:41:45 PM
Last edit: February 14, 2015, 02:43:46 AM by smoothie
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NVC is based on broken PPC code.

Balthazar is a scammer.

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February 11, 2013, 11:49:35 PM
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hate to feed trolls, espacially ever hungry ones like smoothie, but :

I love the idea of NVC - I was thinking about scrypt PPC for last 2 months, as that is technically the best of the best a blockchain can get theese days. best diff algo - smooth and fast [PPC], realy low energy - pos [PPC] , asic-proof [much safer and much more stable - well distributed]

i dont care its flawed with not final ver 2 ppc code - sunnyking and balthazar explained why it doesnt matter.

but.... not to annouce in advance? this is just sad. if I wouldn't find out spying on EVERY russian language chat and announced it myself - it would be "early adapted" for much longer.

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February 11, 2013, 11:53:16 PM
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waiakead3: NVC was premined and announce only to Russians. Awesome


wow....

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February 12, 2013, 12:17:22 AM
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hate to feed trolls, espacially ever hungry ones like smoothie, but :

I love the idea of NVC - I was thinking about scrypt PPC for last 2 months, as that is technically the best of the best a blockchain can get theese days. best diff algo - smooth and fast [PPC], realy low energy - pos [PPC] , asic-proof [much safer and much more stable - well distributed]

i dont care its flawed with not final ver 2 ppc code - sunnyking and balthazar explained why it doesnt matter.

but.... not to annouce in advance? this is just sad. if I wouldn't find out spying on EVERY russian language chat and announced it myself - it would be "early adapted" for much longer.


Yeah label me a troll because I speak the truth. That is the oldest trick in the book on these forums.

Also would adding shit to a nicely made pizza be a good mix?

Adding something broken to something that is working doesn't really give it value. In fact this is the equation:

working code + broken code = broken code

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February 12, 2013, 12:17:59 AM
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hate to feed trolls, espacially ever hungry ones like smoothie, but :

I love the idea of NVC - I was thinking about scrypt PPC for last 2 months, as that is technically the best of the best a blockchain can get theese days. best diff algo - smooth and fast [PPC], realy low energy - pos [PPC] , asic-proof [much safer and much more stable - well distributed]

i dont care its flawed with not final ver 2 ppc code - sunnyking and balthazar explained why it doesnt matter.

but.... not to annouce in advance? this is just sad. if I wouldn't find out spying on EVERY russian language chat and announced it myself - it would be "early adapted" for much longer.


Thats all well and good but dont premine the coin and announce it to only a select few. The only fair way to do it is have a publically announced starting date and supply clients for as many operating systems as possible.

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February 12, 2013, 12:20:13 AM
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hate to feed trolls, espacially ever hungry ones like smoothie, but :

I love the idea of NVC - I was thinking about scrypt PPC for last 2 months, as that is technically the best of the best a blockchain can get theese days. best diff algo - smooth and fast [PPC], realy low energy - pos [PPC] , asic-proof [much safer and much more stable - well distributed]

i dont care its flawed with not final ver 2 ppc code - sunnyking and balthazar explained why it doesnt matter.

but.... not to annouce in advance? this is just sad. if I wouldn't find out spying on EVERY russian language chat and announced it myself - it would be "early adapted" for much longer.


Thats all well and good but dont premine the coin and announce it to only a select few. The only fair way to do it is have a publically announced starting date and supply clients for as many operating systems as possible.

+1

Balthazar doesn't consider that PREMINE when announcing to select group of people. He views it as public announcement lol.

So fail...lol

How many RealSolids do we need to go through?

How many RealSolids does it take to get a working blockchain that is accepted by the community? <------ REAL QUESTION LOL!

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February 12, 2013, 12:20:52 AM
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Yup admitted by Balthazar. He is proud of it.
Just another poof from smoothie.  Cheesy

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Yup admitted by Balthazar. He is proud of it.
Just another poof from smoothie.  Cheesy

Shall I get the chat log from btc-e? lol...

are you denying it? haha  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

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February 12, 2013, 12:22:27 AM
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Does it even matter anymore, if everyone can just tell Ripple which one they want to receive, set their prices in that one?

Who really cares what kind of wampum the sender sent as long as what arrives is the amount wanted of the type wanted?

Set your prices in whatevers and let people use whatever coin they want at their end.

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Does it even matter anymore, if everyone can just tell Ripple which one they want to receive, set their prices in that one?

Who really cares what kind of wampum the sender sent as long as what arrives is the amount wanted of the type wanted?

Set your prices in whatevers and let people use whatever coin they want at their end.

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It is just funny to see some of the retarded perceptions of the concept of what PREMINE is or means.

Also about how one doesn't care about the userbase of the coin they created.

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February 12, 2013, 12:31:44 AM
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hate to feed trolls, espacially ever hungry ones like smoothie, but :

I love the idea of NVC - I was thinking about scrypt PPC for last 2 months, as that is technically the best of the best a blockchain can get theese days. best diff algo - smooth and fast [PPC], realy low energy - pos [PPC] , asic-proof [much safer and much more stable - well distributed]

i dont care its flawed with not final ver 2 ppc code - sunnyking and balthazar explained why it doesnt matter.

but.... not to annouce in advance? this is just sad. if I wouldn't find out spying on EVERY russian language chat and announced it myself - it would be "early adapted" for much longer.


Thats all well and good but dont premine the coin and announce it to only a select few. The only fair way to do it is have a publically announced starting date and supply clients for as many operating systems as possible.


I dont see ant "but" in your answer. I think we agree 100%.

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I agree with that statement, I agree with your main accusation - bad annoucement.

BUT! :

not perfect code doesn't matter!! there is a babynet safety function enabled, that make this imperfection safe for now, and new code can be applied later when sunnyking launches 3.0 protocol. this is pure troling.

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So what if a bunch of Russians scam another bunch of Russians out of valuable hashing power?

As long as when a time comes that you sell them something for their ill-gotten gains you can get paid in something you value are you going to refuse to accept bitcoins or dollars or whatever your own currency of choice is from them merely because they raised it by scamming people out of hashes or rubles or whatever?

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No pure trolling would be if I brought your mother and sister into the discussion.

Stating facts about what has been said and done is not trolling. Only in your warped little world.  Cheesy

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February 12, 2013, 12:40:24 AM
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So what if a bunch of Russians scam another bunch of Russians out of valuable hashing power?

As long as when a time comes that you sell them something for their ill-gotten gains you can get paid in something you value are you going to refuse to accept bitcoins or dollars or whatever your own currency of choice is from them merely because they raised it by scamming people out of hashes or rubles or whatever?

-MarkM-

Mark, it matters in that my bringing it to light warns others not to get involved without knowing the facts of No Value Coin.

Most people would just download the binaries, not review the source, and mine away thinking that they were starting in a level playing field for mining when really it is utterly just a scam.

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February 12, 2013, 12:45:47 AM
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No pure trolling would be if I brought your mother and sister into the discussion.

Stating facts about what has been said and done is not trolling. Only in your warped little world.  Cheesy


we can dance like this all night smoothie.

fact :  NVC uses imperfect code
fact :  there is no better version available
fact :  the problem it creates is protected, there is no hole, this flaw has no influence on anything, and patch is ready -in  last stage of testing.

fact : using facts that have no influence on anything is demagogy - and demagogy is troling,
 just a smart, good quality trolling, like allways from you Smiley


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February 12, 2013, 12:48:36 AM
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No one was hiding the fact its another RUcoin, right, so a few million pre-mined is pretty much normal for them isn't it?

Actually one could argue that someone let the cat out of the bag too early since there weren't yet a couple of million pre-mined by the time it was mentioned here. I guess thats the flaw in trying to pre-mine by obscurity instead of by hard-coding your few million premined coins into block two.

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February 12, 2013, 12:49:13 AM
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No pure trolling would be if I brought your mother and sister into the discussion.

Stating facts about what has been said and done is not trolling. Only in your warped little world.  Cheesy


we can dance like this all night smoothie.

fact :  NVC uses imperfect code
fact :  there is no better version available
fact :  the problem it creates is protected, there is no hole, this flaw has no influence on anything, and patch is almost ready.

fact : using facts that have no influence on anything is demagogy - and demagogy is troling,
 just a smart, good quality trolling, like allways from you Smiley



Starting yet another coin for no good reason is a form of trolling imo  Cheesy

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February 12, 2013, 12:49:59 AM
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No one was hiding the fact its another RUcoin, right, so a few million pre-mined is pretty much normal for them isn't it?

Actually one could argue that someone let the cat out of the bag too early since there weren't yet a couple of million pre-mined by the time it was mentioned here. I guess thats the flaw in trying to pre-mine by obscurity instead of by hard-coding your few million premined coins into block two.

-MarkM-


Ripple is 100% premined  Cheesy

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February 12, 2013, 12:50:15 AM
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Yup admitted by Balthazar. He is proud of it.
Just another poof from smoothie.  Cheesy

Shall I get the chat log from btc-e? lol...

are you denying it? haha  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Or, maybe you couldnt understand it?

If we take a closer look typical post from smoothie:

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PADDINGPADDING... LOL AHAHA... PADDINGPADDING SCAM PADDINGPADDINGPADDING LOL Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy AHAHA AHAHA LOL

We will see some problem there. Seriously, you should try to extend your dictionary and mind, because your messages similar to verbal diarrhea. Nothing personal, but there are not so many reasons to read this.

P.S. Trial period has expired, if you want to continue our dialogue, you can pay me for psychotherapy session.

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February 12, 2013, 12:55:27 AM
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If we take a closer look typical post from smoothie:

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PADDINGPADDING LOL AHAHA PADDINGPADDING SCAM PADDINGPADDINGPADDING LOL Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy AHAHA AHAHA LOL

We will see some problem there. Seriously, you should try to extend your dictionary and mind, because your messages similar to verbal diarrhea. Nothing personal, but there are not so many reasons to read this.
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just make that button even darker Smiley  and voilà .

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