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April 15, 2016, 08:50:17 PM |
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Check your facts... that is a quote by Margaret Sanger, not Bernie Sanders... stop with the slander I know it's a quote by Margaret Sanger, racist neoliberal demigod and founder of Planned Parenthood -- I just thought we were just making shit up, since you posted that blatantly false Trump quote? It's not false... it's printed in a book written in 1991... do you need a link, or can you google the fucking quote? It's written in a book, so that makes it true? Interesting logic. I guess Abraham Lincoln really was a vampire hunter after all. For your information, the book was "Trumped!: The Inside Story of the Real Donald Trump-His Cunning Rise and Spectacular Fall", and it was written by a former Trump employee, "John R. O'Donnell", who had previously been fired by Trump from his job as the president of Trump Plaza Hotel & Casino, for his poor performance. The full quote, as alleged by the disgruntled former employee: "I have black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. Those are the kind of people I want counting my money. Nobody else. Besides that, I've got to tell you something else. I think that the guy is lazy. And it's probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It's not anything they can control... Don't you agree?"Let us assume for a moment that this is a legitimate quotation and that it accurately reflects his understanding of the situation -- what about it is wrong? Is it wrong because it's factually incorrect, or is it wrong because it hurts your fee-fees? Would such a sentiment, objectively an accurate portrayal of reality -- impair his ability to lead and make effective decisions? No? If on the other hand, his capacity for objective thought were so diminished as to render him incapable of recognizing the truth in that situation -- instead leading him to supplant objectivity with a narrative based solely on emotion and social expectation -- would he then be of diminished capacity as a leader? Objectively, yes. How does the full quote make it better? It actually makes it worse... He basically says he hates black people... " I have black guys counting my money... I hate it!" That's fucking racist https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/1f/df/ef/1fdfef6f39a37ff2fff1ef16a231ca8e.jpgIs your reading comprehension really that poor, or are you, as the British would say, "taking the piss"? Anyway, since you don't like constructive arguments or complex abstract thought, here's another famous Bernie Sanders quote: https://i.imgur.com/xJEJMQN.jpg |
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Moloch (OP)
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April 15, 2016, 11:05:55 PM |
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Check your facts... that is a quote by Margaret Sanger, not Bernie Sanders... stop with the slander I know it's a quote by Margaret Sanger, racist neoliberal demigod and founder of Planned Parenthood -- I just thought we were just making shit up, since you posted that blatantly false Trump quote? It's not false... it's printed in a book written in 1991... do you need a link, or can you google the fucking quote? It's written in a book, so that makes it true? Interesting logic. I guess Abraham Lincoln really was a vampire hunter after all. For your information, the book was "Trumped!: The Inside Story of the Real Donald Trump-His Cunning Rise and Spectacular Fall", and it was written by a former Trump employee, "John R. O'Donnell", who had previously been fired by Trump from his job as the president of Trump Plaza Hotel & Casino, for his poor performance. The full quote, as alleged by the disgruntled former employee: "I have black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. Those are the kind of people I want counting my money. Nobody else. Besides that, I've got to tell you something else. I think that the guy is lazy. And it's probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It's not anything they can control... Don't you agree?"Let us assume for a moment that this is a legitimate quotation and that it accurately reflects his understanding of the situation -- what about it is wrong? Is it wrong because it's factually incorrect, or is it wrong because it hurts your fee-fees? Would such a sentiment, objectively an accurate portrayal of reality -- impair his ability to lead and make effective decisions? No? If on the other hand, his capacity for objective thought were so diminished as to render him incapable of recognizing the truth in that situation -- instead leading him to supplant objectivity with a narrative based solely on emotion and social expectation -- would he then be of diminished capacity as a leader? Objectively, yes. How does the full quote make it better? It actually makes it worse... He basically says he hates black people... " I have black guys counting my money... I hate it!" That's fucking racist  Is your reading comprehension really that poor, or are you, as the British would say, "taking the piss"? Anyway, since you don't like constructive arguments or complex abstract thought, here's another lie about Bernie Sanders: (propaganda removed) Is all you have ad-hominem attacks? 1) Donald Trump is known for suing for slander... he's done it dozens of times B) Donald Trump did not sue for slander in this particular case One could assume that when he doesn't sue for slander, it's because it is true (slander has to be false) |
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April 15, 2016, 11:39:50 PM
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B) Donald Trump did not sue for slander in this particular case
One could assume that when he doesn't sue for slander, it's because it is true (slander has to be false)
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lasersgopew
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April 16, 2016, 12:17:54 AM |
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Check your facts... that is a quote by Margaret Sanger, not Bernie Sanders... stop with the slander I know it's a quote by Margaret Sanger, racist neoliberal demigod and founder of Planned Parenthood -- I just thought we were just making shit up, since you posted that blatantly false Trump quote? It's not false... it's printed in a book written in 1991... do you need a link, or can you google the fucking quote? It's written in a book, so that makes it true? Interesting logic. I guess Abraham Lincoln really was a vampire hunter after all. For your information, the book was "Trumped!: The Inside Story of the Real Donald Trump-His Cunning Rise and Spectacular Fall", and it was written by a former Trump employee, "John R. O'Donnell", who had previously been fired by Trump from his job as the president of Trump Plaza Hotel & Casino, for his poor performance. The full quote, as alleged by the disgruntled former employee: "I have black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. Those are the kind of people I want counting my money. Nobody else. Besides that, I've got to tell you something else. I think that the guy is lazy. And it's probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It's not anything they can control... Don't you agree?"Let us assume for a moment that this is a legitimate quotation and that it accurately reflects his understanding of the situation -- what about it is wrong? Is it wrong because it's factually incorrect, or is it wrong because it hurts your fee-fees? Would such a sentiment, objectively an accurate portrayal of reality -- impair his ability to lead and make effective decisions? No? If on the other hand, his capacity for objective thought were so diminished as to render him incapable of recognizing the truth in that situation -- instead leading him to supplant objectivity with a narrative based solely on emotion and social expectation -- would he then be of diminished capacity as a leader? Objectively, yes. How does the full quote make it better? It actually makes it worse... He basically says he hates black people... " I have black guys counting my money... I hate it!" That's fucking racist https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/1f/df/ef/1fdfef6f39a37ff2fff1ef16a231ca8e.jpgIs your reading comprehension really that poor, or are you, as the British would say, "taking the piss"? Anyway, since you don't like constructive arguments or complex abstract thought, here's another lie about Bernie Sanders: https://i.imgur.com/xJEJMQN.jpgIs all you have ad-hominem attacks? 1) Donald Trump is known for suing for slander... he's done it dozens of times B) Donald Trump did not sue for slander in this particular case One could assume that when he doesn't sue for slander, it's because it is true (slander has to be false) Once again, you insist on only arguing within this false paradigm in which "BUT HES A RAYSIS!!" is a legitimate refutation, it isn't. This Hegelian dialectic you're gravitating towards is but a trap for fools, and is a calling card for the sort of neoliberal protoserfs that you'd expect to be following a self-professed Communist such as Sanders. You don't address the actual substance of any of my arguments because you can't formulate a cogent response; instead, you redirect the basis of the argument back to the original subjective crux of whether or not Trump is a racist, with the implication being that this would somehow disqualify him. Until you can see past this fundamental flaw in your reasoning, there isn't much point in me trying to provide another legitimate counterargument. It's analogous to arguing with child who responds to every riposte with "because!" -- ultimately, the child becomes the lesser of fools as the debate progresses. It reminds me of something Bernie once said, https://i.imgur.com/sKJdz2W.jpg |
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April 16, 2016, 12:29:16 AM |
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Donald Trump is a racist, he seems to be focusing on the Mexicans and the Muslims right now.
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Moloch (OP)
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April 16, 2016, 02:16:14 AM |
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April 16, 2016, 04:19:20 PM |
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Lethn
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April 16, 2016, 05:01:20 PM |
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Can you morons at least get your ethnicities right if you're going to accuse people of being racist? Islam isn't a race, it's a religion, so fuck off with that bullshit.
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Moloch (OP)
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April 16, 2016, 05:02:40 PM |
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Can you morons at least get your ethnicities right if you're going to accuse people of being racist? Islam isn't a race, it's a religion, so fuck off with that bullshit.
Which makes him a bigot... check the thread title moron big·ot
ˈbiɡət/
noun
noun: bigot; plural noun: bigots
a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.
"don't let a few small-minded bigots destroy the good image of the city"
synonyms: chauvinist, partisan, sectarian; racist, sexist, homophobe, dogmatist, jingoist
A racist by another name is still a bigot Besides the simple fact that Trump cannot tell one religion from another by outward appearance (and he can't ask because they could simply lie)... Trump wants to profile anyone who looks middle-eastern, which is fucking racist as it gets... he doesn't care about religion, he cares about skin color |
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April 16, 2016, 05:15:51 PM
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That's fine then but use that instead of trotting out the bullshit line of Islam is a race you fucking moron, that's the problem that I have, if you're going to be outraged at least do it coherently and have a decent point behind it. Frankly though, as much as I personally dislike Donald Trump, I think people like you and especially Islamists need a good scare and to be brought into line, almost everybody on the left have been absolute pussies about standing up to Islamists who want to establish Theocracies in our countries and have stated that is exactly their intention.
People like you have been running around screaming racist at anyone that disagrees with you and attacking them for far too long and it's your own fucking fault that it's gotten to this point.
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April 16, 2016, 06:09:38 PM |
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People like you have been running around screaming racist at anyone that disagrees with you and attacking them for far too long and it's your own fucking fault that it's gotten to this point.
That's one of the most delicious ironies of the current age, that all these professional umbrage-takers have so diluted their accusatory buzzwords that they've essentially neutered their own movement. Ten years ago, calling someone a racist had a degree of weight to it, it was a serious accusation; but nowadays it just comes across as whiny and pathetic to most reasonable people. Being considered a racist is almost comical in some circles now, and the accusation is bandied about as a joke in itself -- casually calling someone a racist because they're afraid of black dogs or don't like black coffee, for instance. In the grand scheme of things, the social justice movement has done more harm to minorities and women than any institution since Jim Crow. It's only a matter of time before no one really cares if a person is racist, and then it will only be a matter of time before racism becomes once-again commonplace and open. It's interesting from a strategic standpoint, that the only way for the SJW cult to save themselves and their movement from complete ruin, is to take their foot of the gas, take a few steps back, and distance themselves from many core elements of their collective ethos -- but to do so would also mean the collapse of the whole in exchange for the survival of a few specific chosen causes. In essence, the entire movement could be characterized as a lone communist transvestite fox-kin, eye's closed tight on their grimaced face, pissing into the wind and screaming about how they hate getting pissed on. |
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April 16, 2016, 06:30:03 PM
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That's fine then but use that instead of trotting out the bullshit line of Islam is a race you fucking moron, that's the problem that I have
Nobody said Islam was a race... except you... "you fucking moron" You pretend like I said it... so you can attack a straw-man... but I never said Islam was a race... you said that I am simply posting some of the ridiculous things that Trump has said... if you want to interpret them as racist, that's all you brah The man is a troll... like many of his supporters... I see why you like him so much A presidential candidate needs to have a little dignity, self-respect, and respect for "the other" too |
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April 16, 2016, 07:27:39 PM |
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Is Donald Trump A Racist or a Bigot?
The answer is it doesnt matter, the reason Donald has achieved so much success is that the majority of America is sick to death of being pushed around by the minority. Getting called racist if you dare object to latest Islamic/minority demands, constantly chipping away at the Amercian way of life.
Donald Trump is the personification of a majority of people that are now saying enough is enough, get into line or go back from where you came.
Poke the sleeping bear too much and sooner or later your going to get your ass handed to you.
And its not just America, the whole of Europe is beginning to stir and say enough is enough, close the borders and ship the rapefugees back to the shit hole they came from.
The time for sympathy past when you were welcomed then decided to rape and rob the local population.
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April 16, 2016, 07:35:27 PM |
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Donald Trump is a racist, he seems to be focusing on the Mexicans and the Muslims right now. You were saying? Cut it with your bullshit, you are deliberately trying to stop anybody from posting about this by throwing accusations left and right and like most people like you you're extremely hostile to anyone that even politely disagrees with you, what's funny is you never really respond to anyone, you're just sitting there ragetyping and never having a conversation with people or reading their posts properly. |
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April 16, 2016, 10:13:11 PM |
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I think people like you and especially Islamists need a good scare and to be brought into line, almost everybody on the left have been absolute pussies about standing up to Islamists who want to establish Theocracies in our countries and have stated that is exactly their intention.
1) I am not pro-Islam... not sure where you got that idea B) Are you seriously afraid of Islam setting up a theocracy in America? That could never happen... Christians have been trying for 200 years and failing... what's funny is you never really respond to anyone, you're just sitting there ragetyping and never having a conversation with people or reading their posts properly.
Quit bullshitting... you don't have a point beyond, "Islam is not a race" (self-evident)... I'm not going to argue semantics all week... bring some facts or a logical argument if you want a debate |
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April 16, 2016, 10:52:59 PM |
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I really do not like donald trump. he was so racist, he does not like Muslims and immigrants. in this democratic era actually are freely provided in accordance with the regulations. while donald trump only see one side. he did not know how beautiful the value of togetherness.
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April 16, 2016, 10:56:05 PM |
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Its amazing how people can just look so calm, when their speech is totally against what he stands lol. Yeah, build a wall for everything.. I`m totally voting for bernie. I rather have a weirdo then a crazy wall builder. |
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April 17, 2016, 06:13:16 AM |
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IMHO, this is one of the worst things Trump has said Donald Trump on ISIS: 'You have to take out their families'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWiaYQUV2oMIt's horrible to condone murdering innocent civilians... |
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April 17, 2016, 07:23:40 PM |
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A statement that he later backed away from. Meanwhile, the drone program that's championed by Obama and his ilk, has killed 90% innocent civilians in some cases. Even intentionally killing a 16-year-old American citizen by blowing up the entire restaurant he was in. Don't worry though, we also blow up our own hostages and those of our allies sometimes as well. In case you're heart is bleeding for those poor souls whose lives were unduly cut short by having red-hot metal fragments inexplicably shred their organs and blast waves crush the skulls of their children before them, fret not, for chairman Sanders fully endorses and pledges to continue the program if elected. A factually correct paraphrasing of Sanders' position would be, "I endorse and pledge to continue the willful killing of innocent civilians, in instances where we have reason to believe that someone who is not very nice might be in that general area". Do you really want a petulant and ill-tempered 74-year-old Communist bum, who thinks it's okay to willfully murder civilians, and who supports the overthrow of a democratically-elected government in Syria -- to have any real power? Or is this simply more feigned outrage? Surely innocent people are just as dead when a "progressive" kills them, right? I mean, communism alone has lead to the death of nearly 100 million people in the last century... |
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