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April 13, 2016, 05:15:45 PM
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Well as we all know that whenever we transact it always go through blockchain first. So is it possible that blockchain can detect illegal trasanction such as buying drugs, guns, hitman etc., especially on deepweb. And where does bitcoin go when blockchain detects a illegal transaction?

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April 13, 2016, 05:19:55 PM
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Well as we all know that whenever we transact it always go through blockchain first. So is it possible that blockchain can detect illegal trasanction such as buying drugs, guns, hitman etc., especially on deepweb. And where does bitcoin go when blockchain detects a illegal transaction?
I think there's no reason for the blockchain to detect some illegal use of bitcoins or in any form of transactions along the deepweb..because first of all bitcoins are anonymous ,also the transactions on deepweb will be more anonymous..before entering on that site many people hide their ip 10x or more to not be trace in any transactions they made.


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April 13, 2016, 05:21:45 PM
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There is no way to detect a illegal transaction.I doubt even in future this feature will ever be implemented.How can you decide if a transaction is illegal ? Volume of the trade ? Bitcoin address associated with it ? All the blockchain does is process the transactions by keeping them public regardless of who or what is being the address is used for.

I think there's no reason for the blockchain to detect some illegal use of bitcoins or in any form of transactions along the deepweb..because first of all bitcoins are anonymous ,also the transactions on deepweb will be more anonymous..before entering on that site many people hide their ip 10x or more to not be trace in any transactions they made.

That's incorrect. Transactions will be on the blockchain regardless of how secure your Tor network is. Doesn't matter if you're on deepweb,a public ip or 10 tunnels down the secure server,your transactions will be anonymous and public only.
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April 13, 2016, 05:25:40 PM
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There is no way to detect a illegal transaction.I doubt even in future this feature will ever be implemented.How can you decide if a transaction is illegal ? Volume of the trade ? Bitcoin address associated with it ? All the blockchain does is process the transactions by keeping them public regardless of who or what is being the address is used for.
Yeah sometimes blockchain check on some mysterious transaction such as what you have said. And blockchain doesn't just process transactions .

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April 13, 2016, 05:29:24 PM
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There is no way to detect a illegal transaction.I doubt even in future this feature will ever be implemented.How can you decide if a transaction is illegal ? Volume of the trade ? Bitcoin address associated with it ? All the blockchain does is process the transactions by keeping them public regardless of who or what is being the address is used for.
Yeah sometimes blockchain check on some mysterious transaction such as what you have said. And blockchain doesn't just process transactions .

Are you talking about blockchain.info or THE Bitcoin blockchain?

If you are talking about the Bitcoin blockchain then no it does not check any mysterious transactions.

If you are talking about blockchain.info then no this..
Well as we all know that whenever we transact it always go through blockchain first.
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April 13, 2016, 05:40:59 PM
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The Blockchain doesn't check on any transactions because it's like a big ledger where all the old and future transactions are being recorded. The Blockchain is not an institution like the FBI  Grin If you are talking about the Blockchain wallet I don't think they can either detect which transaction is dirty and which is not, maybe if they have a database of Bitcoin wallets associated with criminal activities they would be able to. But if someone is sure that some wallet is dirty they could send a small sum to it and put a public memo notifying everyone that it's a wallet of criminals.

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April 13, 2016, 05:42:36 PM
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The blockchain is a record of the transfer of coins between wallets. It does not contain information about who sent or received coins, or the reason they were sent. Other information by third parties, ip addresses etc., could be used to track down a user depending on how they did the transaction.  

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April 13, 2016, 05:49:16 PM
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Well as we all know that whenever we transact it always go through blockchain first. So is it possible that blockchain can detect illegal trasanction such as buying drugs, guns, hitman etc., especially on deepweb. And where does bitcoin go when blockchain detects a illegal transaction?
No i don't think they moniter all your transaction so there is also no TOS or something in blockchain.info about those illegal transactions. May be coinbase have strict policy as they have banned few wallets already. But bitcoin is mean to be decentralized so anybody can pass through this companies if they use desktop wallet or paper wallet for transaction.

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April 13, 2016, 06:04:54 PM
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Yeah but Coinbase is monitoring known hot wallets of gambling sites. The Blockchain can't affect the transactions because it's not a wallet by the way but a record book containing the data of all the transactions that ever happened. So only wallets have the power to temper with users' funds and I assume if an address is flagged for illicit deals then it could be possible to seize the funds of the offender using an online wallet if the police files a subpoena or something and asks the online wallet operator for cooperation. However if the funds are transferred to desktop or mobile wallets there is nothing that could stop the transactions I fear.
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April 13, 2016, 06:27:13 PM
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Well as we all know that whenever we transact it always go through blockchain first. So is it possible that blockchain can detect illegal trasanction such as buying drugs, guns, hitman etc., especially on deepweb. And where does bitcoin go when blockchain detects a illegal transaction?
No, Bitcoin doesn't work that way. Neither does Blockchain can detect illegal transaction because it simply not possible to disclose illegal transactions. Unless, you know the person that is using that particular Bitcoin address.

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April 13, 2016, 06:34:10 PM
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some of these replies actually hurt my eyes... In order to avoid confusion:

- the blockchain = the technology behind bitcoin, recording all transactions in a public ledger
- blochchain.info = a website that offers services based on the blockchain
While the first is merely a piece of technology, the second is a company. The company can possibly do some data mining if they really wanted to.


- when you buy bitcoins, usually your name, address, paypal account, credit card, id,... or other forms of identifying information are needed. If somebody (FBI, interpol,...) wanted, they could easily find out who bought coins and on which address they were stored.
- when you trade your bitcoins for fiat or for physical services, the same information is needed, and the feds can link your identity to your wallet address.
- if somebody is really dedicated, he can follow the trail of the coins, unless you know how to conceil the coin movements (by using mixing services, coinjoin, exchanges,....)
This means that it doesn't matter if you use a VPN, tor or the computer in your public library, if you don't know what you're doing, somebody can follow the full trail of the bitcoins, from the moment they were mined, to the moment you bought them, to the exact moment where you traded them for dope, to the moment the dopedealer sold them again for fiat.


Luckily, if you're not doing horribly illegal stuff, i'm pretty sure law enforcement has better things to do than to find out who gambled $100 on dice or if you bought $50 worth of weed... I could be mistaking tough Wink

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April 13, 2016, 06:42:30 PM
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I dont think so. blockchain cannot detect illegal trasanction such as buying drugs, guns, hitman etc etc .
Thats the beauty of Bitcoins as they are not trace able.
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April 13, 2016, 06:58:08 PM
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Well as we all know that whenever we transact it always go through blockchain first. So is it possible that blockchain can detect illegal trasanction such as buying drugs, guns, hitman etc., especially on deepweb. And where does bitcoin go when blockchain detects a illegal transaction?


Don't wish to go with illegal things with bitcoins. Please try to promote bitcoins as much you can. But do with positive things bro.
Many scroller use to do. Please community members don't do that bro.
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April 13, 2016, 07:23:31 PM
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So there was a transaction of .25 BTC yesterday at 11PM between wallet X and wallet Y. So dare you suggest it was illegal? It was aunt Arnie sending some money to little Tommy so he could buy books to perform better at school. So many bad mouth people... There's never been anything illegal sold or bought with BTC. Don't believe what they say on TV.

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April 13, 2016, 07:28:41 PM
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So there was a transaction of .25 BTC yesterday at 11PM between wallet X and wallet Y. So dare you suggest it was illegal? It was aunt Arnie sending some money to little Tommy so he could buy books to perform better at school. So many bad mouth people... There's never been anything illegal sold or bought with BTC. Don't believe what they say on TV.

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i havnt got a clue what you are even asking, do you understand bitcoin???
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April 13, 2016, 08:43:02 PM
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Yes you can buy illegal things with bitcoin or any other currency. Until there is legal there will be illegal also. There is different laws in different countries so it's not like that all illegal things are bad. I think its answer on your question in headline.
I don't think you know how illegal transactions work. How can anyone know is transaction is for something illegal or not.
Try to buy something illegal and you will see how it works.


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April 13, 2016, 08:46:01 PM
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Well as we all know that whenever we transact it always go through blockchain first. So is it possible that blockchain can detect illegal trasanction such as buying drugs, guns, hitman etc., especially on deepweb. And where does bitcoin go when blockchain detects a illegal transaction?

while paying for anything no one mention that for what purpose they are paying it there at blochchain. So how will blockchain come to know that the specific person has done the transaction for that particular purpose?
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April 13, 2016, 09:02:22 PM
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I like your idea, we can write down whatever illegal things cash used to buy on the cash. So that next person will know.
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April 13, 2016, 11:31:12 PM
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There is no way to detect a illegal transaction.I doubt even in future this feature will ever be implemented.How can you decide if a transaction is illegal ? Volume of the trade ? Bitcoin address associated with it ? All the blockchain does is process the transactions by keeping them public regardless of who or what is being the address is used for.

I think there's no reason for the blockchain to detect some illegal use of bitcoins or in any form of transactions along the deepweb..because first of all bitcoins are anonymous ,also the transactions on deepweb will be more anonymous..before entering on that site many people hide their ip 10x or more to not be trace in any transactions they made.

That's incorrect. Transactions will be on the blockchain regardless of how secure your Tor network is. Doesn't matter if you're on deepweb,a public ip or 10 tunnels down the secure server,your transactions will be anonymous and public only.
Agreed.  I'd be very interested to know how this would be possible.  But I'm sure the FBI and all the alphabet agencies will find a way--they're always watching.

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