NVC killed BTC-E and Coinotron?

[laughingbear]

Ir does not matter if they removed the coin.  It doesnt matter if they "destroy" wink wink the premined coins. They can not be trusted now, they have proven that. NVC is a scam, but btc-e are the scammers.  Even if they removed nvc now, does anyone honestly think they wouldnt pull some shit in the future?  I would be willing to bet this is not the first time the customers have been scammed.

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[dstruct2k]

Ir does not matter if they removed the coin.  It doesnt matter if they "destroy" wink wink the premined coins. They can not be trusted now, they have proven that. NVC is a scam, but btc-e are the scammers.  Even if they removed nvc now, does anyone honestly think they wouldnt pull some shit in the future?  I would be willing to bet this is not the first time the customers have been scammed.

Agreed. I'm starting to wonder if they're even being DDOS'd right now, considering support and dev seemed to have more than enough time to go disable trades and remove orders during the first stretch of downtime. You can't do that if the site is unreachable.

[Ja¥1337]

All i have to say is.. The LTC community that i used to like, is reminding me an awful lot of the solidcoin community.

I'm wondering if it actually consists of some of them...

The way people are DDOSing.. Attacking other crypto currencies... "litecoin foundation"... i'm sorry but i don't like the way things are turning out...

What happened to our friendly community of the past??? I see mostly trolls as of now..   

I still have 100% trust in BTC-e.. I do not see them as scammers because of 100k coins.. i mean come on guys?? What is 100k coins... nothing..

I remember back in the early days of LTC.. i used to mine 2000 LTC a day before everyone knew about GPU mining... people had 500k LTC.. and 100k was common place... didn't hear anyone complaining then...

Everyone ignore the trolls.. they are just jealous because they didn't get a chance to mine some NVC the first days when most of them were told about it... and they just said "NVC.. what's that?" had a laugh about it.. and went on about their lives... Until they saw it exchanging on BTC-e.. then all of a sudden they wanted some NVC and it was too late to mine a bunch.. Suddenly it's a problem... and BTC-e is a scam...

Also, don't forget.. LTC biggest exchange is BTC-e... they are located in Russia..  now who do you think buys the majority of LTC... Americans?? Think again... You guys think that you are the whole LTC community... but i feel you guys are trapped in your little bubble world... you are very few... i see 1000 people online on BTC-e... and never see more than 50 different people in this english LTC community... So who do you think will mine/buy all the NVC?? 

Jay1337

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[dstruct2k]

All i have to say is.. The LTC community that i used to like, is reminding me an awful lot of the solidcoin community.

I'm wondering if it actually consists of some of them...

The way people are DDOSing.. Attacking other crypto currencies... "litecoin foundation"... i'm sorry but i don't like the way things are turning out...

What happened to our friendly community of the past??? I see mostly trolls as of now..   

I still have 100% trust in BTC-e.. I do not see them as scammers because of 100k coins.. i mean come on guys?? What is 100k coins... nothing..

I remember back in the early days of LTC.. i used to mine 2000 LTC a day before everyone knew about GPU mining... people had 500k LTC.. and 100k was common place... didn't hear anyone complaining then...

Everyone ignore the trolls.. they are just jealous because they didn't get a chance to mine some NVC the first days when most of them were told about it... and they just said "NVC.. what's that?" had a laugh about it.. and went on about their lives... Until they saw it exchanging on BTC-e.. then all of a sudden they wanted some NVC and it was too late to mine a bunch.. Suddenly it's a problem... and BTC-e is a scam...

Also, don't forget.. LTC biggest exchange is BTC-e... they are located in Russia..  now who do you think buys the majority of LTC... Americans?? Think again... You guys think that you are the whole LTC community... but i feel you guys are trapped in your little bubble world... you are very few... i see 1000 people online on BTC-e... and never see more than 50 different people in this english LTC community... So who do you think will mine/buy all the NVC?? 

Jay1337

Fuck the "foundation". The community discussions that have taken place are simply to help all the people that support the coin have a unified voice. Nobody is the "leader", and nobody will ever be accepted as such. The only reason the name "foundation" ever came into existence is because of small-minded individuals that can't understand how unifying our efforts to expand the coin works.

Back on topic: I mined a fair amount of NVC in the first few days, but knowing that the exchange was bribed into adding the coin, followed by this "downtime", has me VERY suspicious of their motives.

[hashman]

Somebody offers you a transparent service to trade something with others.. this is a scam how?  

When BTC-e devs worked for MMMCoin I didn't see all this fuss here.  

Really, if you don't want any don't buy them.  

Keep up the good work BTC-e support - -

[tacotime]

I doubt any of the LTC community has anything to do with this, as it's happened to LTC in the past.  My guess is someone wants to take control of the NovaCoin chain, which is what happened with LTC before too. The intention is not to fork the chain but get as much nvc as possible while no one else has it or can figure out the value.   Ddos attacks are cheap I'm told, so if you have a massive farm it makes sense finacially (but not legally...).

What I have a problem with is that balthazar and btce told no one about their premine until I dumped and looked at the blockchain and then made a post here.

[dstruct2k]

Somebody offers you a transparent service to trade something with others.. this is a scam how?  

When BTC-e devs worked for MMMCoin I didn't see all this fuss here.  

Really, if you don't want any don't buy them.  

Keep up the good work BTC-e support - -

A "transparent service" doesn't accept bribes.

[laughingbear]

I still have 100% trust in BTC-e.. I do not see them as scammers because of 100k coins.. i mean come on guys?? What is 100k coins... nothing..

I remember back in the early days of LTC.. i used to mine 2000 LTC a day before everyone knew about GPU mining... people had 500k LTC.. and 100k was common place... didn't hear anyone complaining then...

Everyone ignore the trolls.. they are just jealous because they didn't get a chance to mine some NVC the first days when most of them were told about it... and they just said "NVC.. what's that?" had a laugh about it.. and went on about their lives... Until they saw it exchanging on BTC-e.. then all of a sudden they wanted some NVC and it was too late to mine a bunch.. Suddenly it's a problem... and BTC-e is a scam...

Jay1337

First, this guy is associated with btc-e, if I am not mistaken.
 Second, your only defence is that we are all just "jealous" that we weren't in on the scam from the start?  If that is your only argument, you only prove me correct.  You are also leaving out the part where the dev bribed the most popular alt coin exchange to feature the coin.

[Bettor]

Agreed. I'm starting to wonder if they're even being DDOS'd right now, considering support and dev seemed to have more than enough time to go disable trades and remove orders during the first stretch of downtime. You can't do that if the site is unreachable.

Every server I ever had in the past 15 years had a direct terminal.

Quick request to whoever's DDOSing these guys: Give us 5 minute windows every half hour so we have a chance to get our coins out of the sites and to local wallets. That wouldn't interfere with your attempts to prevent "business as usual", but it would still let "just the simple user" get their money out.

Why do you want 1/2 as much time as they gave us the first time. :faceplant:


Do us all a favor and be suspicious quietly, hotshot.

[nethead]

What i (personaly) blame is that there are 10-20 persons that heavily invested in LTC hope-ing in some magic that would pump the price up and right now are losing money, and thats the reason for all that anger. <- My point of view.

I have nothing with LTC, i love it, as i love all the coins that made/make me some profit, but there shouldnt only be 10-20 persons holding most of the ltc's...

 


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First, this guy is associated with btc-e, if I am not mistaken.
 Second, your only defence is that we are all just "jealous" that we weren't in on the scam from the start?  If that is your only argument, you only prove me correct.  You are also leaving out the part where the dev bribed the most popular alt coin exchange to feature the coin.

So, that means that everyone who owns an exchange cannot try to develop a coin, or cannot have a mod in there that developed a coin... Interesting... Insta-scammer if he does, by this logic right? Let me ask you, what IF you owned btc-e, and some time one of your mods made a coin? Wouldnt you put it there up for trade? Would you be a scammer for doing so?

[laughingbear]

For the record, I did not invest anything in NVC, I saw it as crap from the start.  My problem is that if BTC-E is willing to take bribes, and manipulate currency, then they cant be trusted at all.

[smoothie]

All i have to say is.. The LTC community that i used to like, is reminding me an awful lot of the solidcoin community.

I'm wondering if it actually consists of some of them...

The way people are DDOSing.. Attacking other crypto currencies... "litecoin foundation"... i'm sorry but i don't like the way things are turning out...

What happened to our friendly community of the past??? I see mostly trolls as of now..  

I still have 100% trust in BTC-e.. I do not see them as scammers because of 100k coins.. i mean come on guys??What is 100k coins... nothing..

I remember back in the early days of LTC.. i used to mine 2000 LTC a day before everyone knew about GPU mining... people had 500k LTC.. and 100k was common place... didn't hear anyone complaining then...

Everyone ignore the trolls.. they are just jealous because they didn't get a chance to mine some NVC the first days when most of them were told about it... and they just said "NVC.. what's that?" had a laugh about it.. and went on about their lives... Until they saw it exchanging on BTC-e.. then all of a sudden they wanted some NVC and it was too late to mine a bunch.. Suddenly it's a problem... and BTC-e is a scam...

Also, don't forget.. LTC biggest exchange is BTC-e... they are located in Russia..  now who do you think buys the majority of LTC... Americans?? Think again... You guys think that you are the whole LTC community... but i feel you guys are trapped in your little bubble world... you are very few... i see 1000 people online on BTC-e... and never see more than 50 different people in this english LTC community... So who do you think will mine/buy all the NVC??  

Jay1337

Exactly what is 100k coins that BTC-e would want to tarnish their reputation? Seems fishy to me.

They should walked away from NVC. They making enough money on all the other crypto trades.

It is called GREED.

[Ja¥1337]

I am only associated with BTC-e because i am a mod. Just like Balthazar, Abbeytim and Bettor. The only difference is that i have no close relationship with the owners of the BTC-e. I was offered the job of moderator... I am from Canada.. basically i just ban people from chat for breaking the rules... I can count the times i've talked to BTC-e administration. Basically i'm saying that people are jealous because they didn't get to mine a bunch of NVC the first days.. which is what a lot people did... you could have mined something like 10k or more, the first days.. depending on your speed..

[smoothie]

I doubt any of the LTC community has anything to do with this, as it's happened to LTC in the past.  My guess is someone wants to take control of the NovaCoin chain, which is what happened with LTC before too. The intention is not to fork the chain but get as much nvc as possible while no one else has it or can figure out the value.   Ddos attacks are cheap I'm told, so if you have a massive farm it makes sense finacially (but not legally...).

What I have a problem with is that balthazar and btce told no one about their premine until I dumped and looked at the blockchain and then made a post here.

+1...yup sounds like a scam to me if that is the case TacoTime.

[Bettor]

I never mined any of the crap coin or talked to anyone more than a couple sentences translated through Google. I never spoke of or bought the crap coin. And I sure never tried to tell them how to run their business, onsite or anywhere else. I have never received even a reduced fee or anything else from them either.



EDIT: Added I have no money interest in NVC or Btc-e whatsoever.
EDIT: WHAT? No timestamp on edits here? I wonder why it's a trollhole?

[laughingbear]

FYI  100,000 coins at current market value on btc-e = 640.00 BTC

640 BTC = 16640.00 USD

Yeah, WTF was I worried about?

[nethead]

Imaginary convo with smoothie:

Me: I farted.
Smoothie: ITS A SCAM!!

no offense, i like you but...

[smoothie]

FYI  100,000 coins at current market value on btc-e = 640.00 BTC

640 BTC = 16640.00 USD

Yeah, WTF was I worried about?

yeah it's ONLY $16,000 USD right?

no biggie...just mine the fuck out of NVC over 3 days and make $16k....LOL

[nethead]

FYI  100,000 coins at current market value on btc-e = 640.00 BTC

640 BTC = 16640.00 USD

Yeah, WTF was I worried about?

Why you dont bitch about other members coin holdings? I dont see an 100k sell order on btc-e, and by the way, they deserve it. Please read my previous post too.