[XVC] Vcash (former [VNL] Vanillacoin) cryptocurrency unmoderated discussion

[bitcoin carpenter]

But that being said the best place to learn about vcash is
https://v.cash/forum/threads/weekly-updates.366/page-2#post-7543

The weekly update thread.

[rickgejr]

@bitcoin carpenter:

How can anyone take vcash seriously if we can't discuss it in an un-moderated (uncensored) thread?

Smooth just opened a thread and does not delete posts.

And vcash has allegedly copied code -- violated copyright -- according to Gregory Maxwell (credible witness) and other anonymous users of this forum.

How can anyone trust vcash if they appropriated the hard work of others, even in part, without so much as an admission?

Simply because Poloniex trades in vcash does not legitimize it.

Are there other credible expert public witnesses who can verify that vcash/vanillacoin did not violate copyright/failed to acknowledge that they "borrowed" the code of others?

Simply directing us to censored threads under vcash's direct control is clearly inappropriate, to say the least.

We like the freest speech possible.

[EmilioMann]

Just stop responding to these trolls from monero community, please.
They insist that lie for over a year and never change.
"ohhhh XVC has a code of 50 000 lines and about 10 lines are similar to the btc code, my God, run to the hills!"
The monero community is made up of a bunch of trolls and morons, everybody knows it.
XMR was artificially pumped, now is being hard dumped and they need to divert attention to something else
Gmaxuell is a liar sociopath, a scammer, any currency that could threaten the btc as vcash can, he declares a dirty war against it.
Gmaxuel lied about lightning network, which in reality is nothing more than vaporware because it is centralized. Here's the proof: https://i.imgur.com/FCqIBSM.gif
None of these guys can be taken seriously.
Please stop responding to these children and morons.

[rickgejr]

@EmlioMann:

Understand that these vcash supporters are repetitive, but you tell a lie long enough and it can carry the weight of truth.
That, and not responding, is losing automatically by default.
It's an ongoing battle.

You will find me in the last "digital" ditch.

[bitcoin carpenter]

I have no problem with moderation in announcement sections of bitcointalk.  So often this section is used by full troll/shills drowning out every useful piece of information posted there.

Altcoin discussion is the place for unmoderated threads.

Smooth opened this thread as an avenue for his monero nation to keep repeating their same comments, for the purpose of drowning out John-connor announcements.


The link I posted is just the link to the weekly updates that John is working on or has completed and has nothing to do with moderated/ unmoderated conversations.

[bitcoin carpenter]

On a side note to your earlier post, it is laughable to consider this thread as an announcement thread when there is clearly no information about vcash written anywhere in the original post.  Veiling smooth's contempt for John-connor behind some altruistic argument of censorship is ridiculously.   Smooth only created this thread as a way to distract the bitcointalk community.
Maybe he should have called this thread AN UNMODERATED DISCUSSION ABOUT JOHN-CONNOR AND MONERO'S PISSING MATCH....
of which I'm sure smooth and the gang would clearly win being that the monero trolls dominate bitcointalk through shear repetitive will.
Not saying it's a bad strategy when used to create price manipulation and promotion, but in the end I think very few groups have done more to damage the crypto reputation on the whole.

[rickgejr]

@ Bitcoin Carpenter:

Does it matter where Vcash is vetted?

In a free speech environment, you may of course chatter and name call, but everyone can see you do it.

John-Connor updates on his/her own censored threads are just that -- censored.

So the question on deck is: when will John-Connor admit or explain how and why Bitcoin code is/was part of Vcash?

Why not just admit it -- if it's true? Admit that he/she used Bitcoin code. Copied it. Stripped away information that could have verified this and failed to indicate such?

I'm not saying the guy isn't a fantastic coder, but he/she could be a fake, just as easily.

And if he is a genius coder, why not dump all Bitcoin Code and make something truly remarkable?

Bitcoin has it's problems. CryptoNote is not perfect. What's next?

[bitcoin carpenter]

Vcash


Welcome to the official community topic of Vcash. This topic is moderated by the Vcash community members.

Vcash is a cryptographic currency that is not a clone of any other project. It is designed to be innovative and forward-thinking. It prevents eavesdropping and censorship, promotes decentralized, energy efficient and fast network transactions by use of irrevocable contracts and provides opt-in client-side anonymity. It has no pre-mine, pre-sale, IPO, ICO or BS.

Specifications:

30.7 million coins.
Variable block time targeting 80-200 seconds.
128 coins per block initially.
Difficulty is retargeted every block.
Blake-256 Proof-of-Work algorithm.
0.7% interest rate by use of energy efficient Proof-of-Stake.
0.0005 coin per kilobyte transaction fee.

Whitepaper:

http://v.cash/papers/vanillacoin.pdf

Wallets:

http://v.cash/wallets.php

Exchanges:

Bittrex: https://www.bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-XVC
Poloniex: https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_xvc
RAWX: https://beta.rawx.io/#/markets/BTC:XVC

Projects:

https://github.com/john-connor/

Proof-of-Work Mining/Coin Distribution

http://pool.v.cash/
http://vcash.miningpoolhub.com/
http://xvc.maxminers.net/
http://xvc.suprnova.cc/

Ledger Explorer:
 
https://explorer.v.cash/
https://www.blockexperts.com/xvc/

Developer Announcements:

Development Team ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1064326.0

Social:

Twitter: https://twitter.com/vdotcash
Forum: https://v.cash/forum/
https://v.cash/slack/

Disclaimer: This project is considered "beta" and is in an ever-changing state. This said, it moves rapidly and keeping up with the evolution is not easy. The best channel for up-to-date information is through the "official" forums. Anything posted on BCT or elsewhere regarding changes to this project's current state should not be considered unless also confirmed through the "official" forums.

Thank you for your support




I'll add the official threads info here.  Please add this to the front page smooth.   If you really want this to be an unmoderated announcement page you should at least start it off with the appropriate information.

[vnthpttl]

Just created an unofficial Vcash facebook fan group. Click below to join !!!

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1835848506633458/

[Lord Of The Internet]

I have no problem with moderation in announcement sections of bitcointalk.  So often this section is used by full troll/shills drowning out every useful piece of information posted there.

Straight up trolls are bad but so is blatant censorship, which happens in the vcash forum and moderated thread.  posts get deleted unless they are something along the lines of "yay, vcash is the best!!!11!!1   hodl!!!"

[smooth]

Please add this to the front page smooth.

This was done

[ocminer]

I have no problem with moderation in announcement sections of bitcointalk.  So often this section is used by full troll/shills drowning out every useful piece of information posted there.

Straight up trolls are bad but so is blatant censorship, which happens in the vcash forum and moderated thread.  posts get deleted unless they are something along the lines of "yay, vcash is the best!!!11!!1   hodl!!!"

There is no criticism or free opinions allowed

[Lord Of The Internet]

I have no problem with moderation in announcement sections of bitcointalk.  So often this section is used by full troll/shills drowning out every useful piece of information posted there.

Straight up trolls are bad but so is blatant censorship, which happens in the vcash forum and moderated thread.  posts get deleted unless they are something along the lines of "yay, vcash is the best!!!11!!1   hodl!!!"

There is no criticism or free opinions allowed

a lot of people stay away from vcash for that exact reason.  it's sad because vcash would have a lot of potential otherwise.

[yelllowsin]

News about Vcash development  

Version 0.5.0 Released (https://v.cash/news.php)

• HD Keychain's are now used by default for new installations.
• Added new RPC call "incentive" (see Wiki for more details).
• Bug Fixes
• Added ZeroLedger (SPV+) Client binaries to the wallets page.

You can read more about ZeroLedger here!

Slack Chat -> https://vcash.slack.com

[c4s7or]

Strange that the price is falling this much. Now I have to buy some more 

[ocminer]

As john or some of his sheeps decided to delete my post containing nothing but truth from the other thread, I'm reposting it here:

Quote
Quote from: q327K091 on Today at 07:32:10 PM
Quote from: ocminer on Today at 06:51:42 PM
Quote from: luksbit on Today at 06:07:13 PM
vcash are you in freefall? sad


What comes around, goes around


why did you de-list the coin exactly, due to forks? who cares about the attitude , technology matters , if I would care about the attitude I would be in the academia  

btw you run fantastic and honest pools.. yo probably are one of the most important people in the space... very solid! thank you

as far as vcash and network hash it has been transferred and high @ other pool, some taking chance solo, in general I would close an eye on an "attitude" Einstein was known to had one (big ego too but that's like being hidden from history books)

you also were not breaking bank @ocminer.. but you keep your fees low.. despite the fact your server costs can not be that low... thats very decent of you actuallly, overall your pool accounted for close to100% of the network.. which is never good, one of these days one of these coins will catapult to the BTC level.. hopefully.. will be super fun then.. now we kiiind of having fun, cheers

aaand someone is playing big now.. buy order @ 57413.52578572 , 8 BTC (where word big is relative) but for us at the moment is lol

in general if BTC core developers scan vcash c++ codebase for "ideas" above is a bargain

Actually the XVC and former VNL pool was running for a long time, it was running flawless for all that time, I've always migrated to the latest version and xCore etc. helped a lot until one day suddenly it forked and I had to fully resynch to the network - a day after the resync it forked again and a third time the next day again, I always had to reimburse miners because they literally minted hot air while the pool was forked.

While investigating those forks I came to the conclusion that John actually banned/blacklisted the pools main IP and therefore caused the fork for the pool, he later also confirmed it on twitter:







As it doesn't make sense fighting against the dev of the coin,the miners are always the losers, I decided to stop and close the pool for good. I was asking myself why the dev wouldn't contact me if the pool really spews invalid blocks. I've confirmed that all my blocks were and are fully valid as I compared them to other blocks (from other pools) on the network. It seems like only some privileged pools are "certified" to operate pools for the coin. However there are some ways to circumvent any ban, it wasn't worth the time then and it surely isn't yet.

I've heard from a miner that even his private pool forked a few days ago, he moved to another IP and it was fine again until this IP was also banned/blacklisted.. It's a hide and seek if you're trying to solo with lots of hash

[Bare]

who gives a f**k about vcash anymore? sry offtopic but ZEC and ETH all the way!

[flipme]

As john or some of his sheeps decided to delete my post containing nothing but truth from the other thread, I'm reposting it here:

Quote
Quote from: q327K091 on Today at 07:32:10 PM
Quote from: ocminer on Today at 06:51:42 PM
Quote from: luksbit on Today at 06:07:13 PM
vcash are you in freefall? sad


What comes around, goes around


why did you de-list the coin exactly, due to forks? who cares about the attitude , technology matters , if I would care about the attitude I would be in the academia  

btw you run fantastic and honest pools.. yo probably are one of the most important people in the space... very solid! thank you

as far as vcash and network hash it has been transferred and high @ other pool, some taking chance solo, in general I would close an eye on an "attitude" Einstein was known to had one (big ego too but that's like being hidden from history books)

you also were not breaking bank @ocminer.. but you keep your fees low.. despite the fact your server costs can not be that low... thats very decent of you actuallly, overall your pool accounted for close to100% of the network.. which is never good, one of these days one of these coins will catapult to the BTC level.. hopefully.. will be super fun then.. now we kiiind of having fun, cheers

aaand someone is playing big now.. buy order @ 57413.52578572 , 8 BTC (where word big is relative) but for us at the moment is lol

in general if BTC core developers scan vcash c++ codebase for "ideas" above is a bargain

Actually the XVC and former VNL pool was running for a long time, it was running flawless for all that time, I've always migrated to the latest version and xCore etc. helped a lot until one day suddenly it forked and I had to fully resynch to the network - a day after the resync it forked again and a third time the next day again, I always had to reimburse miners because they literally minted hot air while the pool was forked.

While investigating those forks I came to the conclusion that John actually banned/blacklisted the pools main IP and therefore caused the fork for the pool, he later also confirmed it on twitter:







As it doesn't make sense fighting against the dev of the coin,the miners are always the losers, I decided to stop and close the pool for good. I was asking myself why the dev wouldn't contact me if the pool really spews invalid blocks. I've confirmed that all my blocks were and are fully valid as I compared them to other blocks (from other pools) on the network. It seems like only some privileged pools are "certified" to operate pools for the coin. However there are some ways to circumvent any ban, it wasn't worth the time then and it surely isn't yet.

I've heard from a miner that even his private pool forked a few days ago, he moved to another IP and it was fine again until this IP was also banned/blacklisted.. It's a hide and seek if you're trying to solo with lots of hash

I lost coins on your pool.
I think you're a clueless liar.
You were under ddos an just not able to mitigate, thats why you forked over and over again.

[flipme]

Welcome to this troll thread.
XVC must be a real threat to a certain group of people, considered the propaganda effort they make and the amount of capital they burn to keep the value low. I hope somebody will make it really expensive for them.
Its full on, Polo Trollbox, BCT, they do all they can to foreclose it.
It reminds me to the Clinton campaign.

[ocminer]

As john or some of his sheeps decided to delete my post containing nothing but truth from the other thread, I'm reposting it here:

Quote
Quote from: q327K091 on Today at 07:32:10 PM
Quote from: ocminer on Today at 06:51:42 PM
Quote from: luksbit on Today at 06:07:13 PM
vcash are you in freefall? sad


What comes around, goes around


why did you de-list the coin exactly, due to forks? who cares about the attitude , technology matters , if I would care about the attitude I would be in the academia  

btw you run fantastic and honest pools.. yo probably are one of the most important people in the space... very solid! thank you

as far as vcash and network hash it has been transferred and high @ other pool, some taking chance solo, in general I would close an eye on an "attitude" Einstein was known to had one (big ego too but that's like being hidden from history books)

you also were not breaking bank @ocminer.. but you keep your fees low.. despite the fact your server costs can not be that low... thats very decent of you actuallly, overall your pool accounted for close to100% of the network.. which is never good, one of these days one of these coins will catapult to the BTC level.. hopefully.. will be super fun then.. now we kiiind of having fun, cheers

aaand someone is playing big now.. buy order @ 57413.52578572 , 8 BTC (where word big is relative) but for us at the moment is lol

in general if BTC core developers scan vcash c++ codebase for "ideas" above is a bargain

Actually the XVC and former VNL pool was running for a long time, it was running flawless for all that time, I've always migrated to the latest version and xCore etc. helped a lot until one day suddenly it forked and I had to fully resynch to the network - a day after the resync it forked again and a third time the next day again, I always had to reimburse miners because they literally minted hot air while the pool was forked.

While investigating those forks I came to the conclusion that John actually banned/blacklisted the pools main IP and therefore caused the fork for the pool, he later also confirmed it on twitter:







As it doesn't make sense fighting against the dev of the coin,the miners are always the losers, I decided to stop and close the pool for good. I was asking myself why the dev wouldn't contact me if the pool really spews invalid blocks. I've confirmed that all my blocks were and are fully valid as I compared them to other blocks (from other pools) on the network. It seems like only some privileged pools are "certified" to operate pools for the coin. However there are some ways to circumvent any ban, it wasn't worth the time then and it surely isn't yet.

I've heard from a miner that even his private pool forked a few days ago, he moved to another IP and it was fine again until this IP was also banned/blacklisted.. It's a hide and seek if you're trying to solo with lots of hash

I lost coins on your pool.
I think you're a clueless liar.
You were under ddos an just not able to mitigate, thats why you forked over and over again.

Nope, no DDoS, but thanks for your compliment, I wasn't the only one having problems with forking at that time and I'm doing pools since 2013... So I'm usually aware how to run pools and recognize specialized attacks and/or how to mitigate DDoS'es You can btw see in the images from twitter than john confirms he banned my pool node