Balthazar
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February 19, 2013, 08:26:40 AM |
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laughingbearI don't care about exchange's business. Also I don't care about your emotional condition and your fantasies or conspiracy theories. I'm free to do whatever I want, without asking someone for permission. MIT license and constitution gives me this right. If you don't like it, you are free to pass on, constitution gives you that right. Is that clear enough? P.S. If it isn't clear because of language problem, I have a generic link for such cases.
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pauljr8
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February 19, 2013, 01:45:13 PM |
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Introducing another coin onto an exchange without providing a way to trade LTC against it is wrong. LTC/BTC price is depressed due to the incredible rise of BTC and NVC takes some of the underlying price supports away from LTC and those holding LTC are screwed while those couple of people with NVC cash in. To fairly introduce another coin the exchange should have allowed it to be traded against the existing currencies that people are already holding not lock them out or only provide the option to trade with their greatly depressed LTC/BTC holdings. Until now BTC-e was an impressive exchange where I always felt fairness was important. Instead I am sitting on the sidelines watching others participate in something I would have to take a large loss in if I too wanted to join in. I use this exchange for the trading of LTC, now I must find another exchange aware of this NVC fiasco where integrity and fairness to loyal customers is important.
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KWH
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In Collateral I Trust.
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February 19, 2013, 01:59:47 PM |
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Introducing another coin onto an exchange without providing a way to trade LTC against it is wrong. LTC/BTC price is depressed due to the incredible rise of BTC and NVC takes some of the underlying price supports away from LTC and those holding LTC are screwed while those couple of people with NVC cash in. To fairly introduce another coin the exchange should have allowed it to be traded against the existing currencies that people are already holding not lock them out or only provide the option to trade with their greatly depressed LTC/BTC holdings. Until now BTC-e was an impressive exchange where I always felt fairness was important. Instead I am sitting on the sidelines watching others participate in something I would have to take a large loss in if I too wanted to join in. I use this exchange for the trading of LTC, now I must find another exchange aware of this NVC fiasco where integrity and fairness to loyal customers is important.
This is a good time to buy LTC as the scam coin will just die off soon once the pump is over. Money will flow back into LTC. THIS
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When the subject of buying BTC with Paypal comes up, I often remember this:
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein
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laughingbear
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February 19, 2013, 03:26:03 PM |
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laughingbearI don't care about exchange's business. Also I don't care about your emotional condition and your fantasies or conspiracy theories. I'm free to do whatever I want, without asking someone for permission. MIT license and constitution gives me this right. If you don't like it, you are free to pass on, constitution gives you that right. Is that clear enough? P.S. If it isn't clear because of language problem, I have a generic link for such cases. Hey, you said some things that are true. Im having a hard time picking just one of these over at the sec website.... Please select the option that best describes your complaint: Fraudulent investment scheme, such as a Ponzi scheme or the promise of high-yield returns Unregistered securities offering General trading practices or pricing issues Manipulation of a security Insider trading Material misstatement or omission in a company's public filings or financial statements, or a failure to file Municipal securities transactions or public pension plans Bribery of, or improper payments to, foreign officials (Foreign Corrupt Practices Act Violations) A specific market event or condition (please describe below) If your complaint does not fit in any of the categories above, please describe below Any of you legal pros out there... is this (sec) where I file a complaint about a violation of the (KYC) money laundering laws?
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iCEBREAKER
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
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February 19, 2013, 09:57:52 PM |
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Im having a hard time picking just one of these over at the sec website....
Please select the option that best describes your complaint:
Fraudulent investment scheme, such as a Ponzi scheme or the promise of high-yield returns Unregistered securities offering General trading practices or pricing issues Manipulation of a security Insider trading Material misstatement or omission in a company's public filings or financial statements, or a failure to file Municipal securities transactions or public pension plans Bribery of, or improper payments to, foreign officials (Foreign Corrupt Practices Act Violations) A specific market event or condition (please describe below) If your complaint does not fit in any of the categories above, please describe below
Any of you legal pros out there... is this (sec) where I file a complaint about a violation of the (KYC) money laundering laws?
Bwahahaha! Too bad that list doesn't include your real complaint, which is butthurt over the emergence of a second scryptchain. FYI, the SEC has no jurisdiction over Ukraine. Even the stalwart, normally phlegmatic Bitcoin Police are shocked at your stupidity. "Really failingbare? Are you still jealous of Novacoin? Maybe you shouldn't have invested so much in Litecoin, you dumbass!
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laughingbear
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February 19, 2013, 10:29:56 PM |
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144158.0[NVC] Public destruction of 110 000 coins
Hi all. As you know, BTC-E received 110k of coins before NVC was publicly released. There are so many trolling about this, and we decided to destroy it.
20.02.13 01:58:48 laughingbear: anazing that such a new "trollcoin", that you can buy absolutely nothing with, is so valuable. could it be that it has ties to this exchange? good thing that no "guarentees"/bribes were given behind the scenes or some people might be upset 20.02.13 02:01:54 Balthazar: laughingbear, it's may be true for you, but not for another people20.02.13 02:05:04 laughingbear: Balthazar, how much of a "guarentee" was paid, to add ltc to this exchange? 20.02.13 02:09:41 Balthazar: laughingbear, There was no "payment". Destruction of coins was stipulated by the original agreement .20.02.13 02:10:19 laughingbear: Balthazar, you are so full of shit 20.02.13 02:10:29 dstruct2k: (PS - the "original agreement" was written after the coins were destroyed :trlf:) 20.02.13 02:10:30 laughingbear: constantly changing story 20.02.13 02:10:36 Balthazar: OptimusS, You are free to do what you want. 20.02.13 02:11:00 OptimusS: Balthazar is a nice guy actually but this novacoin fiasco reminds me of scamcoin 20.02.13 02:11:04 Balthazar: laughingbear, in your fantasy, maybe
20.02.13 02:11:14 laughingbear: do us all a favor and make up your bullshit ahead of time instead of changing your story every step of the way 20.02.13 02:11:58 laughingbear: its insulting
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Balthazar
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February 20, 2013, 12:44:01 AM |
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laughingbearEither you have no idea whereof you speak, or it really has been made for special people such as you. There is a lot of information about current subject, including numbers and proofs. But you are ignoring it continuously, because it causes crash of your theory. If you like present himself as a clown, or if you prefer conspiracy theories (which is the same), then you are free to satisfy yourself in your own way. P.S. If you can't understand, I mean that everyone have his own "truth". Only fanatics believe in existence of "absolute truth". And also, fanatics usually believe in a lie, which they invented. Sounds familiar? The way of fanatic always ends in the psychiatric clinic.
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laughingbear
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February 20, 2013, 12:53:35 AM |
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110K premined NVC is successfully destroyed ! February 14, 2013, 11:46:33 PM Hi all. As you know, BTC-E received 110k of coins before NVC was publicly released. There are so many trolling about this, and we decided to destroy it.
20.02.13 02:09:41 Balthazar: laughingbear, There was no "payment". Destruction of coins was stipulated by the original agreement
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laughingbear
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February 20, 2013, 01:50:47 AM |
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February 15, 2013, 12:16:25 AM No, it's not my decision, I only recommended to do it.
There are no losses, and motivation for project is slightly different from smoothie's trololo. Of course, I'll continue working on it. Smiley Reply
on: February 14, 2013, 10:51:48 PM Too late, because btc-e decided to destroy this coins. Cheesy
on: February 14, 2013, 03:59:33 PM I'll happy to do it, but this coins was sent to btc-e, as a guarantee of stake. Only btc-e can do this now.
20.02.13 02:09:41 Balthazar: laughingbear, There was no "payment". Destruction of coins was stipulated by the original agreement
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laughingbear
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February 20, 2013, 03:34:18 PM |
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someone else made this, but I like it...
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MPOE-PR
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February 20, 2013, 05:39:09 PM |
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Then sends 110,000 coins to btc-e (Approximate value $16 thousand USD)
This is the part I don't get. How are 110k, or mn, or trn coins of a PPC scamcoin clone worth 16 dollars? To whom? Where? WTF? I mean I get it, they're trying to cash out on btc-e's reputation or w/e, userbase, by selling them some shitty noncoins. But still. 16k? Wtf?
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laughingbear
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February 20, 2013, 05:54:00 PM |
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Then sends 110,000 coins to btc-e (Approximate value $16 thousand USD)
This is the part I don't get. How are 110k, or mn, or trn coins of a PPC scamcoin clone worth 16 dollars? To whom? Where? WTF? I mean I get it, they're trying to cash out on btc-e's reputation or w/e, userbase, by selling them some shitty noncoins. But still. 16k? Wtf? Using current prices @ BTC-E Amount NVC: 110,000 Price per NVC: 0.0099 BTC Total: 1091 BTC Price per BTC: 29.2 usd Total: $31,857 USD
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creativex
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February 21, 2013, 02:39:47 PM |
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I don't know that I'd call this a scam exactly, but it does have an unpleasant aroma. I won't be using btc-e until this crap goes away. It's difficult to believe anyone would trade a BTC for 78 of these useless coins, but I guess there truly is a sucker born every minute.
Vircurex will surely benefit from this idiocy.
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EricTyle
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February 21, 2013, 03:34:15 PM |
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Well I find it a scam because they just generate these coins out of thin air. If they're worth .005ea *110,000 = 550 BTC * 30$ = 16,500$ that they made out of thin air like that?
Maybe not a scam perse, but at least a sketchy tag or something.
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laughingbear
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February 21, 2013, 03:41:57 PM |
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making your own coin, and selling it would not be a scam. Even If btc-e itself would have made the coin, and promoted it as hard as they could, I wouldnt have a problem with it. The fact it was premined in amounts of over 30k USD at this point, and paid as a bribe to be featured makes it a scam.
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MPOE-PR
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February 21, 2013, 05:32:27 PM |
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Using current prices @ BTC-E
Amount NVC: 110,000
Price per NVC: 0.0099 BTC
Total: 1091 BTC
Price per BTC: 29.2 usd
Total: $31,857 USD
Oh I see what you mean. But still, that's pretty much extrapolation, I doubt there's 30k worth of interest to actually do that trading. Then again, if everyone ignored the problems there might be, so.
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laughingbear
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February 21, 2013, 06:11:49 PM |
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Buy orders
Total BTC: 4690.20443755
And that is just right now, and just on btc-e
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Zedster
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February 21, 2013, 07:11:54 PM |
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With the price of this brand new coin so high so fast, even to a newb such as myself I feel something is off about the whole thing. I don't understand enough about any of right to say what but I don't think this little soap opera is going to end well for either alt coin. That's probably the worst part.
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disclaimer201
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February 22, 2013, 02:13:14 AM |
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I have a very bad feeling about this. Starting to withdraw my funds from btc-e.
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Zedster
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February 22, 2013, 08:16:53 AM |
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NVC @ 0.02464/BTC up from 0.003 last week. Something is happening. But it's an alt coin no one seems to care? Someone is making a lot of BTC off it.
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