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April 28, 2016, 08:35:12 AM
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But when you give your account as collateral usually lender is trusted user, so risk is almost zero..

Not really.Not every lender is a trusted user.Giving your account to the lender involves a risk of him checking your private messages and maybe access your sensible data ,that's why trusted escrow is used.

Who knows weather the lender will simply sell the account for a much higher price than the loan amount.
That's what I'm saying even though there is a collateral you can't say that your lender/renter is trusted.
You wouldn't know what he can do to your account.

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April 28, 2016, 01:41:56 PM
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But when you give your account as collateral usually lender is trusted user, so risk is almost zero..

Not really.Not every lender is a trusted user.Giving your account to the lender involves a risk of him checking your private messages and maybe access your sensible data ,that's why trusted escrow is used.

Who knows weather the lender will simply sell the account for a much higher price than the loan amount.
That's what I'm saying even though there is a collateral you can't say that your lender/renter is trusted.
You wouldn't know what he can do to your account.

Ok. I can take explanation that lender will have access to your sensible data, but if you select trusted lender, risk of default is very low. This can not be compared to renting an account.

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April 28, 2016, 03:05:11 PM
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But when you give your account as collateral usually lender is trusted user, so risk is almost zero..

Not really.Not every lender is a trusted user.Giving your account to the lender involves a risk of him checking your private messages and maybe access your sensible data ,that's why trusted escrow is used.

Who knows weather the lender will simply sell the account for a much higher price than the loan amount.
That's what I'm saying even though there is a collateral you can't say that your lender/renter is trusted.
You wouldn't know what he can do to your account.

That the most issues in Renting or lending accounts. You never know if the Renter, may take loan from your account or start Scam Service which may ruin the trust of your account.
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April 28, 2016, 03:24:01 PM
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Don't thik any rented account will hold it's trust much long Roll Eyes
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April 28, 2016, 03:31:19 PM
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Possible but it could go wrong, that person could end up taking out loans in your name or simply destroying your account that you've kept going for all this time.
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May 13, 2016, 07:59:37 AM
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Bad idea i think if you just looking for a people to use your account there a possibility to sell it or they can use it to scam people here in our forum.. so  better to hold your account and sell..

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May 13, 2016, 08:30:09 AM
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But when you give your account as collateral usually lender is trusted user, so risk is almost zero..

Not really.Not every lender is a trusted user.Giving your account to the lender involves a risk of him checking your private messages and maybe access your sensible data ,that's why trusted escrow is used.

Who knows weather the lender will simply sell the account for a much higher price than the loan amount.
That's what I'm saying even though there is a collateral you can't say that your lender/renter is trusted.
You wouldn't know what he can do to your account.

That the most issues in Renting or lending accounts. You never know if the Renter, may take loan from your account or start Scam Service which may ruin the trust of your account.


I also think that Renting or lending account is not secured at all.


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June 04, 2016, 11:30:21 AM
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The lender can make scam Services or take loans with intentions of not returning it back.
So i recommend is that either you rent it to your closest friends, whom you have full faith or sale the account is it not required by you. Renting to wrong person can bring Red trust to your account if he does anything fishy with your account.

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June 04, 2016, 12:10:40 PM
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I've tested this idea, and it possible & secure.

I have a blue print of what should be possible, for this sort of service

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June 04, 2016, 01:02:07 PM
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The lender can make scam Services or take loans with intentions of not returning it back.
So i recommend is that either you rent it to your closest friends, whom you have full faith or sale the account is it not required by you. Renting to wrong person can bring Red trust to your account if he does anything fishy with your account.

Why the hell did you bump this old thread dude? Last reply was from you on May 13th and you bump it today June 4! No one even made a single post in here after your post provably because comments are just repeatedly being posted. This thread has no sense anymore.

I've tested this idea, and it possible & secure.

I have a blue print of what should be possible, for this sort of service
Renting accounts is not secure amd there is no way to secure this unless the person you will allow to rent your account is someone that you personally know and trust. Allowing other people to use your account is same as giving them the rights to use your name in fraud.
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June 04, 2016, 01:06:42 PM
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Its not very good idea since mod discourage to have multiple accounts and for renting accounts to make money in sigs?  Well thats very awfull idea men and its very risky for you to lose and account aswell as you will get red trust or even worst ban envasion will be happen,  although  theirs no rules in this furom that not allowing to do buy and sell some accounts and for making it as sig joining business is not good men really,

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The lender can make scam Services or take loans with intentions of not returning it back.
So i recommend is that either you rent it to your closest friends, whom you have full faith or sale the account is it not required by you. Renting to wrong person can bring Red trust to your account if he does anything fishy with your account.

Why the hell did you bump this old thread dude? Last reply was from you on May 13th and you bump it today June 4! No one even made a single post in here after your post provably because comments are just repeatedly being posted. This thread has no sense anymore.

I've tested this idea, and it possible & secure.

I have a blue print of what should be possible, for this sort of service
Renting accounts is not secure amd there is no way to secure this unless the person you will allow to rent your account is someone that you personally know and trust. Allowing other people to use your account is same as giving them the rights to use your name in fraud.

Renting account is not secure, that's if the person you're renting to has any of the credentials (username/password). In our case, the sig campaign users wouldn't have any access to credential to use accounts. Instead, they would be given permissions (extended by our server), sort of like android permissions.

They would be given permission to:
Edit sigs, pics, and profile text. That's it.

If you have the developer mindset you will understand this: Read more information here

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It depends on how you think about renting accounts.


Is it for sigs and earning money automated, without having to worry about sigs anymore, were access is not given to users(which is 99% secure, which we could provide)

or would it be to other users (which is total unsafe/unsecure/risk, which we don't provide) where access is given to users


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June 06, 2016, 08:39:58 PM
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This is not a good decision for Renting accounts.there have a very high risk. They can spam on forum.Renting to wrong person can bring Red trust to your account and your account won't be allowed on signature campaigns anymore..so be patience and learn about bitcoin.
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June 07, 2016, 08:39:52 AM
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Would it be possible to rent bitcointalk accounts out to users wishing to participate in signature campaigns? I'd just like to know the practicality of one of my crazy ideas. Just a little FYI, I was considering buying an account and trying to profit from signature campaigns but found the price too high. So I was wondering if other people encounter the same issue and perhaps would want a place to "rent" an account from. Thanks for reading and responding!

It is possible if the want to rent your account is trusted but if not thats a bad idea. He/She can scam you. And if that happen you can report his/her account but the accouny you waste is 0.01+. So my idea is what if the person want to rent is have deposit minimum 0.1 so that if they scam you its okay because you have funds 0.1.
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This is not a good decision for Renting accounts.there have a very high risk. They can spam on forum.Renting to wrong person can bring Red trust to your account and your account won't be allowed on signature campaigns anymore..so be patience and learn about bitcoin.

There ae lots of cracks in this idea. renting account is just bullshit. the user who rent your account can take loan and default your account, and the worst thing the user can is staking a bitcoin address and proving his ownership of the account. if he do this, you'll loose your account for sure.
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This is not a good decision for Renting accounts.there have a very high risk. They can spam on forum.Renting to wrong person can bring Red trust to your account and your account won't be allowed on signature campaigns anymore..so be patience and learn about bitcoin.

There ae lots of cracks in this idea. renting account is just bullshit. the user who rent your account can take loan and default your account, and the worst thing the user can is staking a bitcoin address and proving his ownership of the account. if he do this, you'll loose your account for sure.
The possible problems you have mentioned here, could be prevented by close watching your rented accounts activity (like in lending section and in meta action activity). But instead of that, you can manage your own account for any profits you are expecting.

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June 07, 2016, 02:58:04 PM
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This is not a good decision for Renting accounts.there have a very high risk. They can spam on forum.Renting to wrong person can bring Red trust to your account and your account won't be allowed on signature campaigns anymore..so be patience and learn about bitcoin.

There ae lots of cracks in this idea. renting account is just bullshit. the user who rent your account can take loan and default your account, and the worst thing the user can is staking a bitcoin address and proving his ownership of the account. if he do this, you'll loose your account for sure.
The possible problems you have mentioned here, could be prevented by close watching your rented accounts activity (like in lending section and in meta action activity). But instead of that, you can manage your own account for any profits you are expecting.

This is not good decision for renting accounts thats true if you dont know the person who rent your account so my suggestion is they have collateral atleast equal to the account that they rent so that if the account will scam, spam or change the password. If they do that you have their money that can pay their loans or to you account.
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June 07, 2016, 03:16:57 PM
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If you want somebody to rent your account . dont do that
Your account can be used in scamming or rude behavior that can cause red sign to your account
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June 07, 2016, 03:35:55 PM
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If you want somebody to rent your account . dont do that
Your account can be used in scamming or rude behavior that can cause red sign to your account


but if need providing some data , or it can be called secured . do you still wont rent your account ?
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June 07, 2016, 04:32:22 PM
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That's a bad idea. Your tenant may not return your account, which is why a security deposit is needed which comes with two-way trust issues. Plus as folks have pointed out your rented acct may get hit with -ve trust

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