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May 01, 2016, 08:01:03 AM
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Wallet Address is part of Wallet [4d49c96588] https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/4d49c9658825089d/addresses

There are only two Wallet Addresses associated with that wallet:

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15aJtBnnvEF8zwUeo1bM6gc95KRRDNWPnP	0.         	1	292923
1EN72ffz45dquag3BLQXKowymz6mgJXf7Q 0.          1 292923

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May 01, 2016, 08:09:15 AM
Last edit: May 01, 2016, 08:26:55 AM by Avirunes
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In either case, why keep the signature

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Signature Designs:- http://bit.ly/AvirunesDesigns

If you bought the account in January?

Well that was a personal message which contain link that directs to my Signature Design & Camapign Management Service thread Link:- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1410437.msg14299015#msg14299015 that was started on March 24,2016 ( i.e around 2 months after the account was sold to me/pjsonowal)

Wallet Address is part of Wallet [4d49c96588] https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/4d49c9658825089d/addresses

There are only two Wallet Addresses associated with that wallet:

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15aJtBnnvEF8zwUeo1bM6gc95KRRDNWPnP	0.         	1	292923
1EN72ffz45dquag3BLQXKowymz6mgJXf7Q 0.          1 292923

According to previous post,he has access to these addresses:-



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May 01, 2016, 08:44:01 AM
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According to previous post,he has access to these addresses:-

Who's previous post?

What Wallet Addresses are these?

I don't know the service, but it looks like whoever took the screen shot was logged in.

http://archive.is/aEk7h

(And by don't know the service, I mean I don't have one of these wallet accounts)

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May 01, 2016, 08:51:59 AM
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According to previous post,he has access to these addresses:-

Who's previous post?

What Wallet Addresses are these?

I don't know the service, but it looks like whoever took the screen shot was logged in.

http://archive.is/aEk7h

(And by don't know the service, I mean I don't have one of these wallet accounts)

In one of previous posts Reply #10 on 1st page by Wewillallbeforgotten he posts up this message:-

Hi, i am the original owner of Avirunes. I'm not sure the exact time it was hacked/hijacked but the last post from me is from August last year. Please bear with me with the following info as i only have access to an ipad atm so it's a bit harder to check everything. The 1Nuy address was mine, however unfortunately i deleted the key when i switched to a custom generated address (1SamNz....), although there should be plenty of interaction between 1Nuy and 1SamNz. I also have transactions between 1Nuy and my local bitcoins account in my transaction history which i will post.

https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/avirunes/

(This account was also created several years ago)

This one https://archive.is/F2icv#selection-818.2-865.66 , is a cloudbet deposit address which is listed in my cloudbet accounts deposit history. I have taken a bunch of screenshots showing what bitcoin addresses i have access too that might prove acct ownership, my localbitcoins transaction history with 1Nuy in 2014, cloudbet transaction showing 15ajt was one of my deposit addresses, a couple of pms. I will post the link below if i can on this account. Obviously these won't be proof as they could be manipulated, but if i know what info from them would be useful then we can verify that info properly.

Thanks

http://m.imgur.com/a/qUF4c

from which i just showed you the blockchain.info wallet accounts he has access to,currently.
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May 01, 2016, 08:59:23 AM
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Hi, i am the original owner of Avirunes. I'm not sure the exact time it was hacked/hijacked but the last post from me is from August last year. Please bear with me with the following info as i only have access to an ipad atm so it's a bit harder to check everything. The 1Nuy address was mine, however unfortunately i deleted the key when i switched to a custom generated address (1SamNz....), although there should be plenty of interaction between 1Nuy and 1SamNz. I also have transactions between 1Nuy and my local bitcoins account in my transaction history which i will post.

https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/avirunes/

(This account was also created several years ago)

This one https://archive.is/F2icv#selection-818.2-865.66 , is a cloudbet deposit address which is listed in my cloudbet accounts deposit history. I have taken a bunch of screenshots showing what bitcoin addresses i have access too that might prove acct ownership, my localbitcoins transaction history with 1Nuy in 2014, cloudbet transaction showing 15ajt was one of my deposit addresses, a couple of pms. I will post the link below if i can on this account. Obviously these won't be proof as they could be manipulated, but if i know what info from them would be useful then we can verify that info properly.

Thanks

http://m.imgur.com/a/qUF4c

1NuYgr8p1pu8MkfEtkynebL4b4mjjdRz9E sends 15aJtBnnvEF8zwUeo1bM6gc95KRRDNWPnP funds.

1NuYgr8p1pu8MkfEtkynebL4b4mjjdRz9E sends 1SamNZsRh1CqFxR9JyqF6EsQ8iv3QgrRT funds just once in the 50 most recent transactions.

Wallet 1SamNZsRh1CqFxR9JyqF6EsQ8iv3QgrRT is the subject of stolen BitCoins:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=518486.msg7066011#msg7066011
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=619645.msg7066329#msg7066329
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=589433.msg6904002#msg6904002

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May 01, 2016, 09:08:06 AM
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Hi, i am the original owner of Avirunes. I'm not sure the exact time it was hacked/hijacked but the last post from me is from August last year. Please bear with me with the following info as i only have access to an ipad atm so it's a bit harder to check everything. The 1Nuy address was mine, however unfortunately i deleted the key when i switched to a custom generated address (1SamNz....), although there should be plenty of interaction between 1Nuy and 1SamNz. I also have transactions between 1Nuy and my local bitcoins account in my transaction history which i will post.

https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/avirunes/

(This account was also created several years ago)

This one https://archive.is/F2icv#selection-818.2-865.66 , is a cloudbet deposit address which is listed in my cloudbet accounts deposit history. I have taken a bunch of screenshots showing what bitcoin addresses i have access too that might prove acct ownership, my localbitcoins transaction history with 1Nuy in 2014, cloudbet transaction showing 15ajt was one of my deposit addresses, a couple of pms. I will post the link below if i can on this account. Obviously these won't be proof as they could be manipulated, but if i know what info from them would be useful then we can verify that info properly.

Thanks

http://m.imgur.com/a/qUF4c



1NuYgr8p1pu8MkfEtkynebL4b4mjjdRz9E sends 15aJtBnnvEF8zwUeo1bM6gc95KRRDNWPnP funds.

1NuYgr8p1pu8MkfEtkynebL4b4mjjdRz9E sends 1SamNZsRh1CqFxR9JyqF6EsQ8iv3QgrRT funds just once in the 50 most recent transactions.

Wallet 1SamNZsRh1CqFxR9JyqF6EsQ8iv3QgrRT is the subject of stolen BitCoins:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=518486.msg7066011#msg7066011
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=619645.msg7066329#msg7066329
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=589433.msg6904002#msg6904002

Then it all clears. Wewillallbeforgotten is scammer afterall. Marvellous work TIMELORD2067. You are Sherlock Holmes of bitcointalk.org  Cheesy
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May 01, 2016, 09:27:10 AM
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1NuYgr8p1pu8MkfEtkynebL4b4mjjdRz9E sends 15aJtBnnvEF8zwUeo1bM6gc95KRRDNWPnP funds.

1NuYgr8p1pu8MkfEtkynebL4b4mjjdRz9E sends 1SamNZsRh1CqFxR9JyqF6EsQ8iv3QgrRT funds just once in the 50 most recent transactions.

Wallet 1SamNZsRh1CqFxR9JyqF6EsQ8iv3QgrRT is the subject of stolen BitCoins:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=518486.msg7066011#msg7066011
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=619645.msg7066329#msg7066329
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=589433.msg6904002#msg6904002

Then it all clears. Wewillallbeforgotten is scammer afterall. Marvellous work TIMELORD2067. You are Sherlock Holmes of bitcointalk.org  Cheesy

Thanks for your good wishes, this is the negative trust I have given Wewillallbeforgotten

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Claims to be the original owner of Avirunes but cannot provide signed message, *but* admits being owner of linked Wallet address 1SamNZsRh1CqFxR9JyqF6EsQ8iv3QgrRT that has an unresolved (?) Stolen BitCoins accusation against it.

If Wewillallbeforgotten can sign a message from either

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1NuYgr8p1pu8MkfEtkynebL4b4mjjdRz9E
1SamNZsRh1CqFxR9JyqF6EsQ8iv3QgrRT

Then they are the likely original owner of your account (How ActSeller got a hold of it is another question entirely)

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May 01, 2016, 10:12:34 AM
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1NuYgr8p1pu8MkfEtkynebL4b4mjjdRz9E sends 15aJtBnnvEF8zwUeo1bM6gc95KRRDNWPnP funds.

1NuYgr8p1pu8MkfEtkynebL4b4mjjdRz9E sends 1SamNZsRh1CqFxR9JyqF6EsQ8iv3QgrRT funds just once in the 50 most recent transactions.

Wallet 1SamNZsRh1CqFxR9JyqF6EsQ8iv3QgrRT is the subject of stolen BitCoins:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=518486.msg7066011#msg7066011
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=619645.msg7066329#msg7066329
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=589433.msg6904002#msg6904002

Then it all clears. Wewillallbeforgotten is scammer afterall. Marvellous work TIMELORD2067. You are Sherlock Holmes of bitcointalk.org  Cheesy

Thanks for your good wishes, this is the negative trust I have given Wewillallbeforgotten

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Claims to be the original owner of Avirunes but cannot provide signed message, *but* admits being owner of linked Wallet address 1SamNZsRh1CqFxR9JyqF6EsQ8iv3QgrRT that has an unresolved (?) Stolen BitCoins accusation against it.

If Wewillallbeforgotten can sign a message from either

Code:
1NuYgr8p1pu8MkfEtkynebL4b4mjjdRz9E
1SamNZsRh1CqFxR9JyqF6EsQ8iv3QgrRT

Then they are the likely original owner of your account (How ActSeller got a hold of it is another question entirely)
Before giving negative trust that 1Sam account might have done nothing wrong but played at Luckybit (edit* or funnybtc.com - it seems funnybtc.com was also a gambling site), the person that says he was scammed was scammed by a website called funnybtc, who then spent the BTC on a wager at Luckybit. The funds then flowed from a luckybit wallet to a luckybit wallet and 1Sam. Unless I was missing something.

Maybe I am mistaken but the scam accusation against the 1Sam / luckybit is not very detailed. I do still believe that the account should not be given to Wewillallbeforgotten and should remain with the current account holder for other reasons, mostly Wewillallbeforgotten has failed to provid sufficient evidence that he owns the account other than that he at one time owned the account.

The evidence of being able to login to a Blockchain.info account is not actual evidence, they've been hacked so many times he could just have the user information.
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May 01, 2016, 11:23:00 AM
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Before giving negative trust that 1Sam account might have done nothing wrong but played at Luckybit (edit* or funnybtc.com - it seems funnybtc.com was also a gambling site), the person that says he was scammed was scammed by a website called funnybtc, who then spent the BTC on a wager at Luckybit. The funds then flowed from a luckybit wallet to a luckybit wallet and 1Sam. Unless I was missing something.

Maybe I am mistaken but the scam accusation against the 1Sam / luckybit is not very detailed. I do still believe that the account should not be given to Wewillallbeforgotten and should remain with the current account holder for other reasons, mostly Wewillallbeforgotten has failed to provid sufficient evidence that he owns the account other than that he at one time owned the account.

The evidence of being able to login to a Blockchain.info account is not actual evidence, they've been hacked so many times he could just have the user information.

I whole heartedly agree that Wewillallbeforgotten shouldn't just be handed over the Avirunes account, any time a scam accusation is made, it's been the habit for some to flagged the accused's account with "There is a scam accusation against this user" or similar, so that's what I have done.

Wewillallbeforgotten is welcome to respond to those accusations here and about the 2014 accusation too.

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