Craig Wright to move coins from an early (associated with the genesis?!) block?

[spartak_t]

I'm waiting him to post a message with Satoshi's account here. That's a si ne qua non things for me to believe that he's Satoshi.

That proves nothing and I believe that theymos has blocked the account...

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[KenR]

If he can actually move coins from the genesis block then I will openly admit he is Satoshi and just be disappointed that my mind have fantasized a better man than what Craig is appearing to be, but like most people here I very much doubt that will be the case.

That is not the case,critics say Satoshi Nakamoto was never one person and maybe multiple people had access to the genesis block.Even Criag was unable to sign the messages which were suppose to be from one of the Satoshi's old addresses .Hence I believe this entire thing is a set up.

[gentlemand]

If not the genesis block, then the only other one that cuts the mustard is block number nine from the first transaction he made with Hal Finney.

[Erkallys]

I'm waiting him to post a message with Satoshi's account here. That's a si ne qua non things for me to believe that he's Satoshi.

That proves nothing and I believe that theymos has blocked the account...

I hope so. I prefer to never know who's Satoshi than recognising that this clown is him. That would prove that he gots access to that account, that he of course could not have bought, though.

[AgentofCoin]

I'm waiting him to post a message with Satoshi's account here. That's a si ne qua non things for me to believe that he's Satoshi.

That proves nothing and I believe that theymos has blocked the account...

I hope so. I prefer to never know who's Satoshi than recognising that this clown is him. That would prove that he gots access to that account, that he of course could not have bought, though.

Yes Spartak_t is correct. My understanding is that the Satoshi account is locked and Theymos
said something to the effect of, that he would unlock and release it back to Satoshi if he was able
to prove to Theymos that he was who he claimed to be.

Theymos said this statement in regards to a simple question in the past, not recently.
I'll see if I can find this posting from Theymos.

Edit: So far can't seem to find what I recalled. Most info comes from mods as below:

In probably that he would have to sign a known Satoshi address before the account was 'unlocked'.

It must have been manually removed from the list by theymos. I know satoshi's account was locked a
while ago but not sure why it needs to be removed from the memberlist (unless it needed to be to lock it adequately).

[cjmoles]

You need to remember that Craig Wright has never claimed he is Satoshi Nakamoto

In the video halfway down this page (captioned "Australian entrepreneur Craig Wright says he is Mr Bitcoin"), at timecount 0:18 the conversation goes like this:

Reporter: "So you're going to show me that Satoshi Nakamoto is you"
Craig Wright: "Yes"

I'd say that sounded pretty much like he's claiming he's Satoshi Nakamoto, wouldn't you ?

He kind of contradicted himself though, he said that he was part of a group of people who were the creators of Bitcoin. Implying that 'Satoshi Nakamoto' is more than one person.

Bitcoin WAS created by a group of people....US!....In fact, it's still being created by us!  But, that initial white paper signed "Satoshi Nakamoto," the email accounts associated with "Satoshi Nakamoto," the bitcointalk account which assigns him "founder,"  those are accounts associated to an individual, "Satoshi Nakamoto," even though, Hal Finney, Gavin Andresen...et. al. had all worked on the project together....there is still only one Satoshi Nakamoto who orchestrated the whole project.

[Denker]

Thank you Craig! Any news is good news.

[Almagro]

Well, how many "experts" here saying that they would believe only if coins are moved from the genesis block. You should know, since the level of expertise you have, that those coins, by default, cannot be moved. Try another one..

[killerjoegreece]

did he perform that genesis block trick? 

[AgentofCoin]

Well, how many "experts" here saying that they would believe only if coins are moved from the genesis block. You should know, since the level of expertise you have, that those coins, by default, cannot be moved. Try another one..

No, you are incorrect. See below:

Though you are correct that the coinbase in Block #0 is unspendable,
there are numerous txs that have added to those bitcoins within that address.
https://blockchain.info/address/1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa

Many users have added/donated some bitcoins to that address for fun.
Currently those added bitcoins exceed the 50 unspendable by 16+ bitcoins.

Those 16+ can be moved by Satoshi, since those coins come from spendable parents.

Satoshi could move all other coins within the genesis address.
The address is not what has been marked as unspendable,
only the original 50 coins have been "voided" for transfer.

[spartak_t]

Well, how many "experts" here saying that they would believe only if coins are moved from the genesis block. You should know, since the level of expertise you have, that those coins, by default, cannot be moved. Try another one..

No, you are incorrect. See below:

Though you are correct that the coinbase in Block #0 is unspendable,
there are numerous txs that have added to those bitcoins within that address.
https://blockchain.info/address/1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa

Many users have added/donated some bitcoins to that address for fun.
Currently those added bitcoins exceed the 50 unspendable by 16+ bitcoins.

Those 16+ can be moved by Satoshi, since those coins come from spendable parents.

Satoshi could move all other coins within the genesis address.
The address is not what has been marked as unspendable.
Only the original 50 coins have been "voided" for transfer.

Forget him. Someone else has already said that... copy pasta...

[zeaderza]

If he log in in the bitcointalk account I can believe he is satoshi nakamoto.Because he is not online here on this forum?

[KenR]

If he log in in the bitcointalk account I can believe he is satoshi nakamoto.Because he is not online here on this forum?

Logging in from the account doesn't mean anything.His password will be stored in the database,in case the database is leaked anybody can post from the account and claim they're Satoshi Nakamoto.From what I know,the account is already banned in the forum by theymos.

[adamstgBit]

did he perform that genesis block trick?  

nope.

he said he would move coins from an " early block " to me that implies it wont be from the genesis block but like block 50 or something a block from day 1.

at first i had not considered the idea that he would have gone to gr8 lengths to hack the "fresh" laptop he used to convince Gavin he held the PK to the genesis block. i thought whats his motive, why would he go to such lengths only to in the end not really be able to prove it.

I now see that he has motives for getting poeple believing he is Satoshi. mainly if he could have some experts believing he is satoshi, first by faking proof that he owns the genesis address, and then later proving to everyone else that he can move coins from early blocks, then he could have the his government believing that he actually does have the collateral and they would not want to take back there loan.

if he cannot convince everyone that he owns a huge amount of BTC, then hes fucked.

maybe he owns like 10,000BTC from a few weeks of mining back in the erly days.

he will move the earliest coins he has access to, and HOPE that this + Fooling Gavin with a hacked computer will convices everyone he has the all the SN coins.

[adamstgBit]

If he log in in the bitcointalk account I can believe he is satoshi nakamoto.Because he is not online here on this forum?

Logging in from the account doesn't mean anything.His password will be stored in the database,in case the database is leaked anybody can post from the account and claim they're Satoshi Nakamoto.From what I know,the account is already banned in the forum by theymos.

i bet he wouldn't be able to do that off hand. he'd have to hack into it, because he doesn't know the password, because he is not SN.

[adamstgBit]

I look forward to his next blog post!

[staysecure]

He should move coins from block #2 and call it a day https://blockchain.info/sl/block/000000006a625f06636b8bb6ac7b960a8d03705d1ace08b1a19da3fdcc99ddbd

[coins101]

Anyone know of Satoshi's pgp(s)?

just here?

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/satoshis-pgp-keys-are-probably-backdated-and-point-to-a-hoax

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Satoshi_Nakamoto:


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-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

[Dabs]

I posted elsewhere:

1. Move genesis address coins. Or sign a message.
2. Move 100 of the first 300 blocks. Or sign 100 messages.
3. PGP sign using the key that everyone knows (appears here and in bitcoin.org)
4. Send all Legendary members of the forum a block's worth of coins. (50 BTC each.)



Satoshi's PGP key is stored on this forum, and also on bitcoin.org and someone has pasted it in a post before, and it's probably on pastebin or elsewhere.

We can all confirm that it's the same public key, we just can not confirm that it really is Satoshi's key. I'm not talking about the backdated fake one, I'm talking about the public key that was posted some time in 2011 or even earlier.

[cjmoles]

I posted elsewhere:

1. Move genesis address coins. Or sign a message.
2. Move 100 of the first 300 blocks. Or sign 100 messages.
3. PGP sign using the key that everyone knows (appears here and in bitcoin.org)
4. Send all Legendary members of the forum a block's worth of coins. (50 BTC each.)



Satoshi's PGP key is stored on this forum, and also on bitcoin.org and someone has pasted it in a post before, and it's probably on pastebin or elsewhere.

We can all confirm that it's the same public key, we just can not confirm that it really is Satoshi's key. I'm not talking about the backdated fake one, I'm talking about the public key that was posted some time in 2011 or even earlier.

I like number 4, lets give it a couple months to get everything figured out though  

I like #4 also....but let's do it now before somebody changes their mind.  Afterall, the legendary members are who hold this whole thing together, right?  SMILE