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June 11, 2011, 10:07:58 AM
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Regarding Spain. You live you learn, if there we're a philosophically advanced anarchist nation or libertarian minarcist state today it would pay handsomely to have itself protected from external aggressors. If successful it would soon outpace the nearest competitors economically and then technologically and would within 10-20 years find defending itself akin to defending itself against 1939 Germany with 2011 war machinery.

Also any action against such a nation would be met not with wmds but with finding who was personally responsible for the intrusion and attacking them personally until they relented. If an industrial zone was hit all the companies would appoint investigators, they would identify a chain of responsibility. Courts would then determine likelihood of guilt and suggested compensation, safety enforcement companies would then target the chain of responsibility and neutralize the threats and enact restitution. A PR company might also be enlisted by the safety company to ensure the citizenry of the aggressor that the attacks on its rulers in no way reflects on them. The free nation would have the whole of the world market at it's disposal. A PR approach might simply be taken from day one to end the aggressors rule if it is decided that would be cheaper or more effective.

Although an anarchist/minarchist society would probably have freedom as it's number one export in the form philosophy, practical example, tourism, technology, tax shielding and low cost, high quality products. The price mechanism is the number one weapon of freedom.

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June 12, 2011, 06:08:32 AM
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Gurgaon sounds like  a fascinating place.  i'd imagine that somewhere between the marginalrevolution article in the OP and the wikipedia article, lies the truth.

the slums sound interesting: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/09/world/asia/09gated.html

i've always followed slums - they're one of the purest reflections of a city's life-essence.  the greatest cooking in the world has always come from slums...

of course, in india the caste system is still somewhat entrenched - especially away from the capital (n.b., not capitol) cities - so inequities of opportunity (not the giving of the unearned to those who haven't earned it, mind you) are easier to deal with, and the Kshatriyas seem to be doing as well as ever.

i wonder if they brought in any of the surviving city planners from the Brasilia project to help with it?
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June 12, 2011, 07:11:58 AM
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Gurgaon  has no publicly provided “functioning citywide sewer or drainage system; reliable electricity or water; public sidewalks, adequate parking, decent roads or any citywide system of public transportation.” Yet Gurgaon is a magnet for “India’s best-educated, English-speaking young professionals,” it has 26 shopping malls, seven golf courses, apartment towers, a sports stadium, five-star hotels and “a futuristic commercial hub called Cyber City [that] houses many of the world’s most respected corporations.” According to one survey, Gurgaon is India’s best city to work and live. So how does Gurgaon thrive? It thrives because in the absence of government the private sector has stepped in to provide transportation, utilities, security and more...

http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2011/06/indias-voluntary-city.html

The myth that taxes are for the common good and provide services that wouldn't otherwise exist?

BUSTED, liberal parasites.

You know what. I take back what I said about you. I'll cast the misunderstanding as a result of the low fidelity of the English language. I'm working on towncoin (BTC equivalent value), virtual cantons, bitcities, and the relevant constitutions.

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May 02, 2026, 09:04:30 AM
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Unfortunately, the India city example is not the best example to use since it's not compatible with Bitcoin/crypto ideals.
An ideal bitcoin society will ofcourse be voluntary but charity/giving will be encouraged, rewarded or incentivized so that no one is abandoned.
Governments will focus on governance. They will develop an opensourced model/prototype society that is decentralized and according to other Bitcoin ideals. People will build according to the model and be incentivized to help those who can't. But the help shouldn't be too confortable so that the poor or needy don't rely on it for too long and lost the desire to work hard for better confort

Development should ofcourse be opensourced. Anyone can contribute and possibly benefit from their useful contributions. Individuals could provide funds, materials or knowledge for contruction of public infrastructure like roads,then charge fees for there usage. There are other ways revenue can be generated by individuals without necessarily charging any fees. If you want to own a company alone, you should atleast be transparent enough for permissionless checks and balances. This will help ensure that rules or standards are followed.

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