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Okay so maybe we just have to wait for Gavin to explain his side of this story else some users will probably see him as part of.... of whatever we call it, say "insidious plot" Craig almost convinced people and I'm not surprise if he had fooled Gavin though. Yup, especially has he has hidden ownership of that domain.
Think about it - if you were purchasing a domain with your name in the title, why would you register it using an anonymous registrant to hide your name?
That sure make sense.
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May 05, 2016, 05:59:05 PM |
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Anyways, nobody actually believed that he is satoshi. Don't know what did he get by doing this but this apology sounds too silly.
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May 05, 2016, 06:01:34 PM |
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Just read the quotes. Haha hilarious. What was the point in coming out & trying to claim he's Satoshi if he was just going to make a fool of himself.
Ruined any credibility he might have had now.
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May 05, 2016, 06:03:03 PM |
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This thread and the whole discussion is based on a false interpretation of Dr Wright's announcement: He has not "relented". He simply says that has not enough motivation/interest/mental strength to argue about his Satoshi identity. In other words Wright has observed that even moving 'holy coins' won't help to put an end to this. Wright is a sophisticated person (what else he would be), Gavin describes him as 'focused' and 'opinionated'. In his interview he simply asks a vital question: Why Does he have to prove anything to anybody? There is no interest, not a bit of logic to put an obligation on him for convincing every single person for his identity. Everybody can make claim about being Satoshi and everybody is free to accept the claim or not. This is it. I think Craig Wright is Satoshi, you think otherwise, suppose time will resolve this conflict, but what the heck?
I learned a very crucial lesson from this story: Cryptography is more and more changing to become a satanic, nihilistic religion. "You want prove your identity, do not promise ask for no trust just show me your primary keys. I don't give a shit to people who know you, to your attitudes, to your prestige, to your resume just decipher some silly bits with your Pks."
I think this is the worst evil that human being has invented. It is worst than Uranium enrichment and nuclear bomb. It is worst than wall street or NSA. Nothing is more threatening than a gigantic 'decentralized' chain of blocks of silly bits that defines our identity. And who invented this? Satoshi Nakamoto! And Who deserves being humiliated, denied and sentenced to be/remain dead, more than any other person? Satoshi Nakamoto! I think what has made Wright such a fragile broken person is the realization of this truth. Dr. Craig Frankenstein Wright has a right to collapse: His creature denies him.
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May 05, 2016, 06:05:55 PM |
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I LOL'ed quite decently at this...
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May 05, 2016, 06:08:42 PM |
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It's just a warmup before bitcointalk is taken over by three letter agency and satoshi's account is revived to parrot the agenda
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May 05, 2016, 06:14:23 PM |
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Craig must just be a attention whore.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36213588On Monday evening, I suggested to Wright's PR firm that if he could send me a fraction of a coin from an early Bitcoin block - which of course I would return - that might show he had Satoshi's keys. But Wright's team came up with a different plan on Wednesday afternoon.
They sent me a draft blog in which he outlined a scheme that would see Matonis, Andresen and the BBC all send small amounts of Bitcoin to the address used in the first ever transaction. Then he would send it back, in what would be the first outgoing transactions from the block since January 2009.
We went ahead with our payments - I sent 0.017BTC (about £5), which you can still see in the online records. Matonis and Andresen sent similar amounts.
Then we waited. And waited. Then my phone rang - with the news that the whole operation was "on hold", with no reason given.
Eighteen hours later we are still waiting for the payments to be made - and now Wright's new blog says that is not going to happen.
.. https://blockchain.info/de/address/12cbQLTFMXRnSzktFkuoG3eHoMeFtpTu3Sthree different tx's. do we have now the addresses of GA, JM and the BBC guy? Cool. This was about scamming $50. Love his style. Wish I'd thought of this one. Suckers.....
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May 05, 2016, 06:19:01 PM |
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Guess everyone who said he wasn't Satoshi was right!
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May 05, 2016, 06:25:01 PM |
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well thats a disappointment....
no, it is not.
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May 05, 2016, 06:28:00 PM |
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Dr. Craig
Please come back.
This was just so entertaining.
Perhaps the reveal of the gox trading account was the killer blow? Hmm. That was already known in December.
So, it doesn't matter. Just come back, for a little while longer.
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May 05, 2016, 06:33:51 PM |
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well thats a disappointment....
adam, if you are a fanboy of the clown you can read thru the stuff here. https://archive.is/6DH8w
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May 05, 2016, 06:47:15 PM |
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well thats a disappointment....
no, it is not. In a way it is disappointing. I also expected a bit more to happen before he disappears. What shall I do with all the popcorn now which I had bought extra for this telenovela like events of the last few days?
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May 05, 2016, 06:53:47 PM |
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apparently the email conversations Craig had with them were extremely convincing. That is something that is extremely difficult to fake - coming off as being the exact same person as they talked to 5 years ago, just as a general feeling.
I don't understand that part. The Satoshi era is before my time, but I have gone back and read some of his old posts here, and he came across to me as someone with a good command of the English language. Where-as Wright comes across as not very articulate in his blog. Does anyone else feel the same way?
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May 05, 2016, 07:01:41 PM |
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I wonder if there's anyone who still believes in Craig's story
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May 05, 2016, 07:03:49 PM |
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Lauda, I know Gavin and Matonis give you nightmares in your dreams but there is no reason to be upset with them. They saw proof in person that was clearly convincing, and furthermore his personality fit with who they thought was satoshi. As much as you'd love to turn this into a smearfest against Gavin, I'm afraid it just doesn't hold up to water. You can't get upset with someone for having a personal opinion.
Incorrect. Personally, I have nothing against either one of them. However, my argument stands: Either both have been conned quite easily (i.e. they are too naive) or they have both been part of that 'plan' and signed an NDA. We might never know. In any case, there was a high chance that Gavin would have given CW control over the project (if he could). At least that is what he said a few years back about Satoshi. I do not understand why you would let them off so easy (people who helped spread this unfortunate event)? They should be held accountable. I've posted it somewhere already but if you watch what CW says in some of his interviews, I don't understand how the connection could even be made between him and Satoshi, except for the fact he was around in the early bitcoin days, has a good chunk of coins (possibly), and knows a lot about cryptography, which Gavin himself has said he didn't think Satoshi was a cryptographer at all, but rather a brilliant programmer. CW describes himself as being a cryptographer most of his life. I also don't see Satoshi seeing the future of bitcoin as being able to track the can you've littered so your government can come tell you your being bad. https://vimeo.com/149035662In all honesty, I was not on these forums during the time of Satoshi but I have read his posts and papers and tried to gauge a personality/character out of what he had put out to the public and this guy just didn't match in many ways for me so I was surprised to see so many, even old members, falling for this guy. Maybe his scripted/planned conversations with Gavin were centered around sounding like Satoshi or maybe it was just the support by Gavin, but this is no excuse. I'm down to two options..... Gavin was either blinded by pure greed and willing to accept anything when someone was supporting his development ideas (speculation) or he was flat out involved in the planning of this nonsense. There is more evidence of the latter but not enough to be conclusive. Ironically, if Satoshi did come back, I would not be surprised if he wanted to tarnish the reputation of Gavin. Basically, bring it on. Let's encourage Wikileaks to use Bitcoins and I'm willing to face any risk or fallout from that act.
No, don't "bring it on". The project needs to grow gradually so the software can be strengthened along the way. I make this appeal to WikiLeaks not to try to use Bitcoin. Bitcoin is a small beta community in its infancy. You would not stand to get more than pocket change, and the heat you would bring would likely destroy us at this stage. What "heat" do you think Satoshi was referring to? I would argue it was the same "heat" that Gavin decided to go do a presentation for back in June of 2011 which is why he disappeared after hearing about Gavin's decision. I get the feeling Satoshi was not happy with the attention that was coming from wikileaks, Gavin was the tipping point with the CIA, and he saw no way to correct it. Am I completely off base here??
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May 05, 2016, 07:10:48 PM |
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It's because he is not Satoshi Nakamoto, easy
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May 05, 2016, 07:20:17 PM |
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Am I completely off base here??
You might be right about some things, but wrong about others. Gavin, Matonis, JVP, and Ian Griggs all genuinely believe Craig is Satoshi based on their personal experiences. They are not part of some grand plot to take over bitcoin. Whether or not Craig is truly a fraud who tricked them all - that's another story, it seems to be true at the moment but more information may arise as time goes on.
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May 05, 2016, 07:39:38 PM |
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All this means is that Gavin got caught with his foot in his mouth! Now he is certainly finished.
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May 05, 2016, 07:41:06 PM |
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Am I completely off base here??
Yes, your whole post is delusionary speculative nonsense. Gavin, Matonis, JVP, and Ian Griggs all genuinely believe Craig is Satoshi based on their personal experiences. They are not part of some grand plot to take over bitcoin. Whether or not Craig is truly a fraud who tricked them all - that's another story, it seems to be true at the moment but more information may arise as time goes on. Unfortunately I don't have access to their personal experiences. Anything they say on a personal level should also be speculation without Satoshi confirming these personal experiences. Without Satoshi around, they can say whatever they want as to what their personal experiences with Satoshi were. Satoshi is the other 50% of each of their personal experiences unless I am missing something?? I think this is what CW was banking on... everyone would just accept their personal experiences and their word without any real proof.... how did CW know about their personal experiences? I guess I have a few theories on that, if he actually did have personal knowledge, but nobody here seems to believe anything I say so I'm not going to waste my time saying them EDIT: In the end, personal experiences that happen online shouldn't be enough to convince them of anything, they are supposed to be the smart ones.
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