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May 05, 2016, 10:14:35 PM
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So Craig Wright may or may not be Satoshi Nakamoto, and that won't be the subject of this topic.

What I want to discuss here is that among all the naysayers, there are folks who seem to just look down on Wright, thinking that he cannot be Satoshi, because he's a middle-aged clean-shaven normal looking white guy (yes, that description also fits me), and that they expected Satoshi to be some kind of a long-haired pot-smoking pale-faced anarcho-punk with tattoos all over.

So he may or may not be, but we should all agree that he has the correct look, age and background to be. Some posts I've read about him are really offensive, and there's no need for that. I'd be happy if Satoshi is a man like M.Wright.

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May 05, 2016, 10:17:03 PM
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I don't think it has a single thing to do with how he looks or his accomplishments or image. It's all about how he acts. Satoshi presented himself as precise, concise and on the ball. If Mr Wright is Satoshi then he's obviously had a funny turn as he's currently all over the joint. If I were him I probably would be too right now.
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May 05, 2016, 10:22:53 PM
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Personally, I don't think Craig is Satoshi, and not because of his looks. I don't care what he looks like. the thing is he isn't providing enough information to give enough proof that he is actually Satoshi.

The lack of a signed message, saying he'll publish documents and not have them available immediately, it all seems just a bit too sloppy and drawn out for him to really be Satoshi.
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May 05, 2016, 10:32:12 PM
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If Mr Wright is Satoshi then he's obviously had a funny turn as he's currently all over the joint. If I were him I probably would be too right now.

Pressure.

What does he owe the "community" ? Absolutely nothing.
Why ? Because (even here) there is no community.

Maybe Gavin and a few others who shared and worked tirelessly toward the original vision. But not the "community". His responsibilty, just like the rest of us, is primarily to himself and his loved ones - and maybe by attending to that duty we might all better serve one another.

What people can't get their heads around is the desire to remain free - when/because , and in the lingo of Jean Paul Sartre (him that turned down the Nobel Prize, remember ?), most of us choose to live in bad faith.

What baffles me is that in a "community" based around a protocol that espouses/has baked in the promise/hope of liberty and a decentralised and distributed consensus that Satoshis sensibility should be so derided.

Wether Craig Wright is the man or not, he's right - Satoshi is dead.
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May 05, 2016, 10:36:18 PM
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If he is Mr Satoshi, don't you think he should log in to his account here?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3

And its gone.
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May 05, 2016, 10:37:57 PM
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Our overlord here has disabled that account I believe. And considering how many times Satoshi's accounts have done Funny Stuff in recent years there's no way we could trust that account either.
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May 05, 2016, 10:40:46 PM
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Ok so I'm getting tired of all that bullshit about Craig being Satoshi and it's not about the looks of the guy but the crap that he is talking and not giving enough of an evidence to believe him.
The only explanation that I have (and it's only a theory of mine) is if he really is Satoshi, he did all that crap lately because he don't want someone to ever again trust him as being Satoshi + sending all of us a message to never trust Gavin or someone else. Meanwhile he may move coins if he want to, but he is just enjoying the nonsense and maybe laughing while chilling with his 1 million coins next to him.     Just imagine if all that is part of HIM to make ppl think that he IS NOT SATOSHI - thats my explanation so far about all this shit. Anyway he still looks like a wannabe Satoshi now and we may never find the truth. Maybe he is, maybe he isn't - Even if he manage to have the PGP key of Satoshi, it will not prove he IS him because it all may be some government inside job, killing the real satoshi and stealing/hacking his keys and shit so we will never know for sure. So please stop with this crap already - the guy probably is a Joke and he doesn't deserve that much attention after all the crap he said...

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May 05, 2016, 11:21:01 PM
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So Craig Wright may or may not be Satoshi Nakamoto, and that won't be the subject of this topic.

What I want to discuss here is that among all the naysayers, there are folks who seem to just look down on Wright, thinking that he cannot be Satoshi, because he's a middle-aged clean-shaven normal looking white guy (yes, that description also fits me), and that they expected Satoshi to be some kind of a long-haired pot-smoking pale-faced anarcho-punk with tattoos all over.

So he may or may not be, but we should all agree that he has the correct look, age and background to be. Some posts I've read about him are really offensive, and there's no need for that. I'd be happy if Satoshi is a man like M.Wright.

Satoshi is not craight wright,and i just expect that people who claim as satoshi nakamoto is satoshi it self,i wish he claim it by use any strong proof,not just sign message,but i wish he could give us some picture when he start with bitcoin,its would be very awesome experience.
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Well, would Satoshi suggest that the community rely upon a third party to validate information contained within the ledger?  That is a major sidestep from the philosophy that seems to have sparked the blockchain's creation.  And, for anybody to suggest that a third party (BBC, The Economist, GQ, Gavin, Matonis....etc) should be the first authentication factor to validate ledger transactions is suspect at best.  Would the person who conceptualized a ledger to eliminate third party involvement rely upon a third party to communicate to the network?  Wow!

So, it doesn't matter what he looks like, it's the fundamental underlying philosophy of bitcoin here that matters, which is at odds with Craig Wright's claims.  You're right...he doesn't owe the community anything, but we've given him too much already!  So, bring on the next person who wants to test the validity of bitcoin....the ledger doesn't lie, the ledger can't be fooled, and the ledger doesn't need a third party to validate its contents....(shhhh--whisper--it's trustless)  If Craig Wright is Nakamoto, all he's proven is that bitcoin cannot be broken, even by the great one himself.  

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May 06, 2016, 02:39:20 AM
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So Craig Wright may or may not be Satoshi Nakamoto, and that won't be the subject of this topic.

What I want to discuss here is that among all the naysayers, there are folks who seem to just look down on Wright, thinking that he cannot be Satoshi, because he's a middle-aged clean-shaven normal looking white guy (yes, that description also fits me), and that they expected Satoshi to be some kind of a long-haired pot-smoking pale-faced anarcho-punk with tattoos all over.

So he may or may not be, but we should all agree that he has the correct look, age and background to be. Some posts I've read about him are really offensive, and there's no need for that. I'd be happy if Satoshi is a man like M.Wright.


Hmm, I missed that. I haven't seen a single post here or on Reddit that indicated they were opposed to Wright being Satoshi on those grounds. Do you understand that (1) he engaged in fraudulent back-dating of documentation in his December 2015 episode on this topic and then (2) was quickly exposed for having published a fraudulent "proof" in his May 2 blog post? That is what people honed in on very quickly.

Wright looks like a more sedentary version of me too, and to be honest I also gravitate towards the expectation that Satoshi will turn out to be a boring and rather clean-cut middle-aged white guy rather than a long-haired druggie. Though I want to be careful not to project my prejudices insofar as they are based on comparatively weak lines of inference.

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May 06, 2016, 06:13:21 AM
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To me, it doesn't matter who the real Satoshi Nakamoto ends up to be. Also I don't think having a degree in Computer Science or wearing business suits fit the bill for the 'perfect' Satoshi because looks most often than not can be deceiving and this is a pretty common occurrence in the Bitcoin scene. Are we sure that Satoshi is male?  Cheesy


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Would you not like it if Satoshi looked like this?  By the way this is taken from the AMC TV series 'Halt and catch fire' it's a pretty good show about developing the first computers you should check it out.
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May 06, 2016, 06:39:44 AM
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If he is Mr Satoshi, don't you think he should log in to his account here?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3

Yeah that would not be a hard thing to do for him, seems like its probably a group and the password is gone forever.
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May 06, 2016, 06:46:03 AM
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Satoshi is obviously a 28 year old Japanese NEET living in his parents' basement.
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May 06, 2016, 07:08:26 AM
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Who did you expect?

A black lesbian of course Cheesy

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May 06, 2016, 07:27:50 AM
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....  Roll Eyes serfs
I thought this was supposed to be the "intelligent" crowd that see's through all of the governments media spin and propaganda. Guess when it's all said and done, a pleb is just a pleb
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Would you not like it if Satoshi looked like this?  By the way this is taken from the AMC TV series 'Halt and catch fire' it's a pretty good show about developing the first computers you should check it out.

Good point. Yes I would like she looked like Cameron but i still think he's male.  Sad

Season 3 was scheduled for this summer wasn't it ?  Smiley
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May 06, 2016, 09:10:17 AM
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Good point. Yes I would like she looked like Cameron but i still think he's male.  Sad

Season 3 was scheduled for this summer wasn't it ?  Smiley
so you think satoshi nakamoto is a person and can create bitcoin without any other people's help? few back years when bitcoin still developed by him is a hard years for satoshi,but i believe satoshi nakamoto is a groups

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May 06, 2016, 09:14:30 AM
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Craig Wright seems exactly like a guy who would use the blockchain technology to create virtual "beanie babies" that's value is mostly based on artificial scarcity. A smart fellow with questionable ethics and PhD in theology Wink


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May 06, 2016, 09:16:52 AM
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Craig is not satoshi nakamoto, if he is claiming that he is satoshi nakamoto. I don't believe him, I will just believe him if he can log in that account today.
Or just make the last active change.

If he is Mr Satoshi, don't you think he should log in to his account here?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3

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Our overlord here has disabled that account I believe. And considering how many times Satoshi's accounts have done Funny Stuff in recent years there's no way we could trust that account either.

agree with you overlord has disabled that account I believe. And considering how many times Satoshi's accounts have done Funny Stuff in recent years there's no way we could trust that account either.
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