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This space is so extraordinary. space is very broad. space has a big secret that remains unknown to this day. and I believe that the existence of extraterrestrial life. Alien is real.
The question isn't what you believe. The question is why you really believe it. For example, God made the universe a little over 6,000 years ago. If everything had operated without sin, where would people have expanded to in the next billion years? Out to the stars, of course, which God made empty-of-life out there, just waiting for people to go out and populate them. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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May 17, 2016, 03:56:14 PM |
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Where do aliens fall in aspects to the bible BADecker? ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::;;::;::::::::::
You imagine all the aspects we would have to re-open once aliens come on the scene. They better be sexy!
As I have said before, aliens are really angels. The evil ones fall, and are now called demons. The good ones are sent by God at times, to help mankind. People on earth are the only sentient beings in the universe who often don't formally acknowledge God. We are way behind on the scale of beings that get things done. And as long as any of us remain in a position of not accepting God, we will remain in a position of not getting things done, relatively. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) BADecker, do you have any good stories to share ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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May 17, 2016, 04:17:51 PM |
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Where do aliens fall in aspects to the bible BADecker? ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::;;::;::::::::::
You imagine all the aspects we would have to re-open once aliens come on the scene. They better be sexy!
As I have said before, aliens are really angels. The evil ones fall, and are now called demons. The good ones are sent by God at times, to help mankind. People on earth are the only sentient beings in the universe who often don't formally acknowledge God. We are way behind on the scale of beings that get things done. And as long as any of us remain in a position of not accepting God, we will remain in a position of not getting things done, relatively. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) BADecker, do you have any good stories to share ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I do not understand how GOD can create reality itself and yet limit consciousness in beings in one lonely planet. But that just me...
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May 17, 2016, 04:34:56 PM |
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Where do aliens fall in aspects to the bible BADecker? ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::;;::;::::::::::
You imagine all the aspects we would have to re-open once aliens come on the scene. They better be sexy!
As I have said before, aliens are really angels. The evil ones fall, and are now called demons. The good ones are sent by God at times, to help mankind. People on earth are the only sentient beings in the universe who often don't formally acknowledge God. We are way behind on the scale of beings that get things done. And as long as any of us remain in a position of not accepting God, we will remain in a position of not getting things done, relatively. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) BADecker, do you have any good stories to share ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I do not understand how GOD can create reality itself and yet limit consciousness in beings in one lonely planet. But that just me... Why are you limiting consciousness to one planet? We've been waiting for You https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awBy_K30Pe8 ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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May 17, 2016, 04:43:06 PM |
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Where do aliens fall in aspects to the bible BADecker? ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::;;::;::::::::::
You imagine all the aspects we would have to re-open once aliens come on the scene. They better be sexy!
As I have said before, aliens are really angels. The evil ones fall, and are now called demons. The good ones are sent by God at times, to help mankind. People on earth are the only sentient beings in the universe who often don't formally acknowledge God. We are way behind on the scale of beings that get things done. And as long as any of us remain in a position of not accepting God, we will remain in a position of not getting things done, relatively. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) BADecker, do you have any good stories to share ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I do not understand how GOD can create reality itself and yet limit consciousness in beings in one lonely planet. But that just me... No, it is not just you. Here's what I mean. Everything in the universe and earth that we know is based on cause and effect. Everything that happens has been caused to happen by something else, which has been caused to happen by something else, etc., all the way back to the beginning. And there have been countless trillions x trillions x trillions of cause and effect reactions that happened since the beginning. People are barely beginning to understand anything at all. Probably, because of entropy, people are losing the ability to think to some extent. The point? There is no way you or I or anyone is going to be able to understand something like consciousness in the universe, whether it is here on earth, or elsewhere, at least not at this stage of our extremely limited knowledge. There is simply no way in all the complexity that is out there. The best we can do is accept the simple facts that we know, and be honest with ourselves when we dream dreams of what might exist out there. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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May 17, 2016, 04:45:43 PM |
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Where do aliens fall in aspects to the bible BADecker? ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::;;::;::::::::::
You imagine all the aspects we would have to re-open once aliens come on the scene. They better be sexy!
As I have said before, aliens are really angels. The evil ones fall, and are now called demons. The good ones are sent by God at times, to help mankind. People on earth are the only sentient beings in the universe who often don't formally acknowledge God. We are way behind on the scale of beings that get things done. And as long as any of us remain in a position of not accepting God, we will remain in a position of not getting things done, relatively. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) BADecker, do you have any good stories to share ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I do not understand how GOD can create reality itself and yet limit consciousness in beings in one lonely planet. But that just me... Why are you limiting consciousness to one planet? We've been waiting for You https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awBy_K30Pe8 ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) You like to believe a bunch of things that you have no proof are factual? Good. I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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May 17, 2016, 04:48:46 PM |
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I already knew there are more than those discovered planets which has life. Just hoping to know the secrets before I die. I don't wanna die without know what's all this and without meeting any alien or seeing our scientists goto other galaxies ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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May 17, 2016, 08:52:40 PM |
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Where do aliens fall in aspects to the bible BADecker? ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::;;::;::::::::::
You imagine all the aspects we would have to re-open once aliens come on the scene. They better be sexy!
As I have said before, aliens are really angels. The evil ones fall, and are now called demons. The good ones are sent by God at times, to help mankind. People on earth are the only sentient beings in the universe who often don't formally acknowledge God. We are way behind on the scale of beings that get things done. And as long as any of us remain in a position of not accepting God, we will remain in a position of not getting things done, relatively. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) BADecker, do you have any good stories to share ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I do not understand how GOD can create reality itself and yet limit consciousness in beings in one lonely planet. But that just me... Why are you limiting consciousness to one planet? We've been waiting for You https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awBy_K30Pe8 ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) You like to believe a bunch of things that you have no proof are factual? Good. I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) I don't know what I believe, but I know what I know ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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May 17, 2016, 09:32:57 PM |
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Where do aliens fall in aspects to the bible BADecker? ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::;;::;::::::::::
You imagine all the aspects we would have to re-open once aliens come on the scene. They better be sexy!
As I have said before, aliens are really angels. The evil ones fall, and are now called demons. The good ones are sent by God at times, to help mankind. People on earth are the only sentient beings in the universe who often don't formally acknowledge God. We are way behind on the scale of beings that get things done. And as long as any of us remain in a position of not accepting God, we will remain in a position of not getting things done, relatively. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) BADecker, do you have any good stories to share ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I do not understand how GOD can create reality itself and yet limit consciousness in beings in one lonely planet. But that just me... Why are you limiting consciousness to one planet? We've been waiting for You https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awBy_K30Pe8 ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) You like to believe a bunch of things that you have no proof are factual? Good. I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) I don't know what I believe, but I know what I know ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) How do you know that you don't only believe that you know what you know? After all, some people know some things that are almost diametrically opposite of the things that you know. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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May 17, 2016, 11:03:55 PM |
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Where do aliens fall in aspects to the bible BADecker? ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::;;::;::::::::::
You imagine all the aspects we would have to re-open once aliens come on the scene. They better be sexy!
As I have said before, aliens are really angels. The evil ones fall, and are now called demons. The good ones are sent by God at times, to help mankind. People on earth are the only sentient beings in the universe who often don't formally acknowledge God. We are way behind on the scale of beings that get things done. And as long as any of us remain in a position of not accepting God, we will remain in a position of not getting things done, relatively. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) BADecker, do you have any good stories to share ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I do not understand how GOD can create reality itself and yet limit consciousness in beings in one lonely planet. But that just me... Why are you limiting consciousness to one planet? We've been waiting for You https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awBy_K30Pe8 ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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May 18, 2016, 12:13:20 AM |
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Just goes to prove the people wrong who believe that we are alone in this universe. If there are over 1,200 possible life-bearing planets discovered relatively near by, who is to say there aren't millions to be discovered.
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May 18, 2016, 12:31:25 AM |
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Where do aliens fall in aspects to the bible BADecker? ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::;;::;::::::::::
You imagine all the aspects we would have to re-open once aliens come on the scene. They better be sexy!
As I have said before, aliens are really angels. The evil ones fall, and are now called demons. The good ones are sent by God at times, to help mankind. People on earth are the only sentient beings in the universe who often don't formally acknowledge God. We are way behind on the scale of beings that get things done. And as long as any of us remain in a position of not accepting God, we will remain in a position of not getting things done, relatively. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) BADecker, do you have any good stories to share ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I do not understand how GOD can create reality itself and yet limit consciousness in beings in one lonely planet. But that just me... Why are you limiting consciousness to one planet? We've been waiting for You https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awBy_K30Pe8 ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) There are possibly countless numbers of usable planets out there. Forever is a long time, and God set this universe up to last that long, and if mankind hadn't turned away from God, it would have. If mankind had never fallen into sin, those planets would be places for us to go to when populations reached something like standing room only on earth. There would be no human death. Adam and Eve would have been first to go out there, because they were the parents of mankind in general, and would have been honored in that way. There are hints in the Bible that there are beings out there that are custodians of celestial places until mankind gets there. They are less than angels. But they are greater than human beings. They are fully aware of God, and many of them are His enemy. What would happen to them if mankind reached the stars? Who knows? It is irrelevant, however. We'll never make it before we destroy ourselves. The thing that we threw away when we fell into sin! But don't blame Adam and Eve entirely. After all, most of the rest of us have great moments of weak faith in God. And a number of us don't want to believe in God at all. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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May 18, 2016, 02:19:20 AM |
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Where do aliens fall in aspects to the bible BADecker? ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::;;::;::::::::::
You imagine all the aspects we would have to re-open once aliens come on the scene. They better be sexy!
As I have said before, aliens are really angels. The evil ones fall, and are now called demons. The good ones are sent by God at times, to help mankind. People on earth are the only sentient beings in the universe who often don't formally acknowledge God. We are way behind on the scale of beings that get things done. And as long as any of us remain in a position of not accepting God, we will remain in a position of not getting things done, relatively. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) BADecker, do you have any good stories to share ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I do not understand how GOD can create reality itself and yet limit consciousness in beings in one lonely planet. But that just me... Why are you limiting consciousness to one planet? We've been waiting for You https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awBy_K30Pe8 ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) There are possibly countless numbers of usable planets out there. Forever is a long time, and God set this universe up to last that long, and if mankind hadn't turned away from God, it would have. If mankind had never fallen into sin, those planets would be places for us to go to when populations reached something like standing room only on earth. There would be no human death. Adam and Eve would have been first to go out there, because they were the parents of mankind in general, and would have been honored in that way. There are hints in the Bible that there are beings out there that are custodians of celestial places until mankind gets there. They are less than angels. But they are greater than human beings. They are fully aware of God, and many of them are His enemy. What would happen to them if mankind reached the stars? Who knows? It is irrelevant, however. We'll never make it before we destroy ourselves. The thing that we threw away when we fell into sin! But don't blame Adam and Eve entirely. After all, most of the rest of us have great moments of weak faith in God. And a number of us don't want to believe in God at all. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Saw this hypothetical just now... http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/73750987"What if the reason we haven't made contact with aliens... is because all of our local civilizations belong to some form of government that forbids open contact with pre-interstellar life?" ![Lips sealed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/lipsrsealed.gif)
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Just goes to prove the people wrong who believe that we are alone in this universe. If there are over 1,200 possible life-bearing planets discovered relatively near by, who is to say there aren't millions to be discovered.
One line of thought is that planets are as common as stars, being formed in the same processes. But keep in mind that only those in the habitable zone are of interest. Of those, only ones with atmospheres. Of those, only those with magnetic poles and radiation belts. Of those, only those which have fair amounts of carbon, oxygen, and water. It may wind up that one in a million is potentially holding life. But there could be millions of them.
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May 18, 2016, 03:49:39 PM |
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Just goes to prove the people wrong who believe that we are alone in this universe. If there are over 1,200 possible life-bearing planets discovered relatively near by, who is to say there aren't millions to be discovered.
One line of thought is that planets are as common as stars, being formed in the same processes. But keep in mind that only those in the habitable zone are of interest. Of those, only ones with atmospheres. Of those, only those with magnetic poles and radiation belts. Of those, only those which have fair amounts of carbon, oxygen, and water. It may wind up that one in a million is potentially holding life. But there could be millions of them. Yep. Life might the most basic common thing in the universe...
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May 18, 2016, 07:55:42 PM |
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Just goes to prove the people wrong who believe that we are alone in this universe. If there are over 1,200 possible life-bearing planets discovered relatively near by, who is to say there aren't millions to be discovered.
One line of thought is that planets are as common as stars, being formed in the same processes. But keep in mind that only those in the habitable zone are of interest. Of those, only ones with atmospheres. Of those, only those with magnetic poles and radiation belts. Of those, only those which have fair amounts of carbon, oxygen, and water. It may wind up that one in a million is potentially holding life. But there could be millions of them. Yep. Life might the most basic common thing in the universe... Wait, those conditions support life as we know it, but who's to say other conditions can't give rise to forms of life that adapted to said other conditions?
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Just goes to prove the people wrong who believe that we are alone in this universe. If there are over 1,200 possible life-bearing planets discovered relatively near by, who is to say there aren't millions to be discovered.
One line of thought is that planets are as common as stars, being formed in the same processes. But keep in mind that only those in the habitable zone are of interest. Of those, only ones with atmospheres. Of those, only those with magnetic poles and radiation belts. Of those, only those which have fair amounts of carbon, oxygen, and water. It may wind up that one in a million is potentially holding life. But there could be millions of them. Yep. Life might the most basic common thing in the universe... Wait, those conditions support life as we know it, but who's to say other conditions can't give rise to forms of life that adapted to said other conditions? That's possible. But you can go down that line of inquiry and define the possible situations also. The self organizing mechanisms of matter require phase dynamics, gas-liquid-solid. That means a certain range of temperatures for the elements involved such as Carbon hydrogen oxygen nitrogen Silicon hydrogen ..... Sulfur hydrogen .... For any proposed system excess thermal energy will overwhelm organizational tendency toward life, and insufficient thermal energy energy will prevent it. For example, the Moon cannot support any life. Neither can Mercury or Venus.
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May 18, 2016, 10:13:46 PM |
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Just goes to prove the people wrong who believe that we are alone in this universe. If there are over 1,200 possible life-bearing planets discovered relatively near by, who is to say there aren't millions to be discovered.
One line of thought is that planets are as common as stars, being formed in the same processes. But keep in mind that only those in the habitable zone are of interest. Of those, only ones with atmospheres. Of those, only those with magnetic poles and radiation belts. Of those, only those which have fair amounts of carbon, oxygen, and water. It may wind up that one in a million is potentially holding life. But there could be millions of them. Yep. Life might the most basic common thing in the universe... Wait, those conditions support life as we know it, but who's to say other conditions can't give rise to forms of life that adapted to said other conditions? That's possible. But you can go down that line of inquiry and define the possible situations also. The self organizing mechanisms of matter require phase dynamics, gas-liquid-solid. That means a certain range of temperatures for the elements involved such as Carbon hydrogen oxygen nitrogen Silicon hydrogen ..... Sulfur hydrogen .... For any proposed system excess thermal energy will overwhelm organizational tendency toward life, and insufficient thermal energy energy will prevent it. For example, the Moon cannot support any life. Neither can Mercury or Venus. And yet, we are left with the possibility of millions of examples of the potential of life across our galaxy alone. I predict we will be sick of learning about Life, once we know we are surrounded with it one day...
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May 18, 2016, 11:55:50 PM |
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Just goes to prove the people wrong who believe that we are alone in this universe. If there are over 1,200 possible life-bearing planets discovered relatively near by, who is to say there aren't millions to be discovered.
One line of thought is that planets are as common as stars, being formed in the same processes. But keep in mind that only those in the habitable zone are of interest. Of those, only ones with atmospheres. Of those, only those with magnetic poles and radiation belts. Of those, only those which have fair amounts of carbon, oxygen, and water. It may wind up that one in a million is potentially holding life. But there could be millions of them. Yep. Life might the most basic common thing in the universe... Wait, those conditions support life as we know it, but who's to say other conditions can't give rise to forms of life that adapted to said other conditions? That's possible. But you can go down that line of inquiry and define the possible situations also. The self organizing mechanisms of matter require phase dynamics, gas-liquid-solid. That means a certain range of temperatures for the elements involved such as Carbon hydrogen oxygen nitrogen Silicon hydrogen ..... Sulfur hydrogen .... For any proposed system excess thermal energy will overwhelm organizational tendency toward life, and insufficient thermal energy energy will prevent it. For example, the Moon cannot support any life. Neither can Mercury or Venus. Your mentioning of those elements reminded me of the Arecibo "Response" which led me to this webpage about it and the original message http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/circulos_cultivos/esp_circuloscultivos12.htmMy head hurt after reading it, which may indicate that the writer is a crackpot, but whatever In any case, I realize now, what a time it must have been to be alive since around the 60s. I wonder what I'll see in my lifetime. Relativity question: can significantly different magnetic fields in another part of the galaxy/universe affect the behavior of chemicals in that localized area compare to say, on Earth
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May 19, 2016, 12:49:27 AM |
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Just goes to prove the people wrong who believe that we are alone in this universe. If there are over 1,200 possible life-bearing planets discovered relatively near by, who is to say there aren't millions to be discovered.
One line of thought is that planets are as common as stars, being formed in the same processes. But keep in mind that only those in the habitable zone are of interest. Of those, only ones with atmospheres. Of those, only those with magnetic poles and radiation belts. Of those, only those which have fair amounts of carbon, oxygen, and water. It may wind up that one in a million is potentially holding life. But there could be millions of them. Yep. Life might the most basic common thing in the universe... Wait, those conditions support life as we know it, but who's to say other conditions can't give rise to forms of life that adapted to said other conditions? That's possible. But you can go down that line of inquiry and define the possible situations also. The self organizing mechanisms of matter require phase dynamics, gas-liquid-solid. That means a certain range of temperatures for the elements involved such as Carbon hydrogen oxygen nitrogen Silicon hydrogen ..... Sulfur hydrogen .... For any proposed system excess thermal energy will overwhelm organizational tendency toward life, and insufficient thermal energy energy will prevent it. For example, the Moon cannot support any life. Neither can Mercury or Venus. Your mentioning of those elements reminded me of the Arecibo "Response" which led me to this webpage about it and the original message http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/circulos_cultivos/esp_circuloscultivos12.htmMy head hurt after reading it, which may indicate that the writer is a crackpot, but whatever In any case, I realize now, what a time it must have been to be alive since around the 60s. I wonder what I'll see in my lifetime. Relativity question: can significantly different magnetic fields in another part of the galaxy/universe affect the behavior of chemicals in that localized area compare to say, on Earth Lol, yes, Hoagland is a crackpot. No, magnetic fields very remote cannot be thought of affecting local conditions. There is a "crackpot theory" about that which is called the "electric universe, electric sun, etc." IIRC. I'm still laughing over the "number of planets" arguments. "How many planets are in the solar system?" Yesterday's answer. Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto.
Today's answer. Fuck, who knows.
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