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May 21, 2016, 01:29:42 PM
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Is that so wrong?

You forgot this question:

Isn't the fact that paid shills are hyping Eth a giant red flag to anyone that's not an idiot?

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May 21, 2016, 01:46:55 PM
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You didn't learn from what had happen months ago.  ETH will always be pumped for every project there on are created with ETH being the useful coin.
Its a continuous evolution and yo can check this out in the list of ICOs. ETH will soon be the kind in the end, you'll see.

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May 21, 2016, 02:09:02 PM
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Won't lie: because I like watching you rage. Is that so wrong?

You forgot this question:

Isn't the fact that paid shills are hyping Eth a giant red flag to anyone that's not an idiot?
Just 'coz Blockstream can't afford to pay you a living wage ain't no reason to be upset. They'll throw you something when NitWit goes live Smiley

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May 21, 2016, 02:25:37 PM
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can't afford to pay you a living wage

So how much are you getting paid by bankers to shill against Bitcoin?

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May 21, 2016, 02:58:17 PM
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can't afford to pay you a living wage

So how much are you getting paid by bankers to shill against Bitcoin?

Let's see... gotta get more organized... $250k US from Vitalik + monthly + per post, so let's call it ~$350k US thus far. Visa footing my hookers & blow habit + all the Starbucks coffee we can drink + 50% off coupons on McD Happy Meals (you'd be surprised how fast that shit adds up when you got a fleet of hungry hookers to feed)... Ya, I know i'm forgetting somethn' but must away -- hookers and blow!
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May 21, 2016, 06:27:45 PM
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^^Get back to me when all the featured articles on Coindesk (top 4 Shocked) are about Dash Smiley
People are discussing about eth and btc here in this thread not Dash but i think eth will also gonna face same luck like LTC and DASH has faced in past. Too much speculation on launch and lack to find real life application after wards. When this ICO of DAO tokens will be finished and people will exchange DAO for eth and eth to btc than we will see real drama i think.

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May 21, 2016, 06:37:36 PM
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I've never felt the lure of Eth myself, so pretty much unaffected by it. My feelings are that its blockchain is going to be too big too quick, I don't like proof of stake and in general its not scarce enough to be an excellent store of value. I realise that eth is not meant to be a store of value but is fuel to run a world computer or something. meh. Bitcoin is still the king as far as I'm concerned. Like a sleeping dragon. Only pretender is Dash which has attributes of bitcoin that I like with many other interesting innovations into the mix.


Well, an additional ETH problem that you are kind of suggesting, but not specifically stating is that the whole thing is kind of centralized.  I mean they have some supposed mining, but it seems that a lot of coins have been pre-mined and then there is not really any certainty regarding how many there will be in total, so any time they could double the supply.  Furthermore this currently proof of work (that is kind of unclear about how they are gotten and who is supposedly mining and the criteria) is going to at some currently unknown point shift to proof of stake.. .. yeah right.. that sounds more like a ponzi scheme than anything for those with insider knowledge to acquire as many as possible and then sell them at an inflated price... but then if they are no longer being produced at that point, then only stake holders have a voice.. it is a bit unclear how all of this is supposed to work, but that the rules can change at any time (because ETH is more efficient than bitcoin because those in charge can change the rules at any time that they want.... how ridiculous to inspire confidence in such a distribution of coins and power).

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May 21, 2016, 06:41:41 PM
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I guess big players are the scammers then? due to the position in power.

http://www.coindesk.com/coinbase-exchange-rebrand-ethereum-trading/

I think regardless of its faults, its one of the few alt coins to be almost matching bitcoin, even litecoin didnt do this.

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May 21, 2016, 06:42:00 PM
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can't afford to pay you a living wage

So how much are you getting paid by bankers to shill against Bitcoin?

Let's see... gotta get more organized... $250k US from Vitalik + monthly + per post, so let's call it ~$350k US thus far. Visa footing my hookers & blow habit + all the Starbucks coffee we can drink + 50% off coupons on McD Happy Meals (you'd be surprised how fast that shit adds up when you got a fleet of hungry hookers to feed)... Ya, I know i'm forgetting somethn' but must away -- hookers and blow!


Yeah, you can come up with all kinds of fantasies when you don't actually have any stake in the system, besides your likely a lot less payment(s) from the bankers.

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May 21, 2016, 06:48:40 PM
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the rules can change at any time (because ETH is more efficient than bitcoin because those in charge can change the rules at any time that they want.... how ridiculous to inspire confidence in such a distribution of coins and power).

exactly this. ethereum is a professional scam in the cryptocurrency world. it poses itself as a decentralized system comparable to bitcoin while in reality it is centralized to the ethereum foundation. the rules can change at any time and people that could change the rules hold a stake (vitalik and his gang).

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May 21, 2016, 06:49:44 PM
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I guess big players are the scammers then? due to the position in power.

http://www.coindesk.com/coinbase-exchange-rebrand-ethereum-trading/

I think regardless of its faults, its one of the few alt coins to be almost matching bitcoin, even litecoin didnt do this.

You are way too early to make any kind of matching claim.... Let's see ETH's performance over a few years, rather than a 5 month pump... yeah there was a bit of a correction in there but still ETH has not been time-tested in any kind of significant way yet.

I am not saying that you are not going to be correct, but I am saying that your claim of ETH challenging BTC's dominant place seems quite premature, especially given a lot of the centralization issues that seem to be connected with ETH, it is not too likely to stand the test of time (a few years, but probably won't even last a few more months before the scams come out and it ends up getting abandoned in a large number of ways).

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May 21, 2016, 07:01:41 PM
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the rules can change at any time (because ETH is more efficient than bitcoin because those in charge can change the rules at any time that they want.... how ridiculous to inspire confidence in such a distribution of coins and power).

exactly this. ethereum is a professional scam in the cryptocurrency world. it poses itself as a decentralized system comparable to bitcoin while in reality it is centralized to the ethereum foundation. the rules can change at any time and people that could change the rules hold a stake (vitalik and his gang).

We may even need to feel sorry for some of the folks controlling various aspects of ETH, maybe?  We will see how it plays out, but the distinction between bitcoin and ETH is important and having someone for the government to go after when dealing with items of value and even what could be characterized as insider trading and market manipulation (Potentially dangerous)... harder to go after bitcoin fundamentals in this same kind of way because in the end, even though people try to suggest that core developers or miners are controlling bitcoin, but the whole bitcoin space remains quite decentralized, and that had been part of the complaint from some of the big blockers attempting to suggest that bitcoin needed to make changes more efficiently (hardfork, blah blah blah - not so easily accomplished in bitcoin). 

Anyhow, ETH having centralized control, they can hardfork whenever the fuck they want, and there may end up being some criminal prosecutorial vulnerabilities for some of the folks who are pulling some of the strings.  At this point, we don't know how it is going to play out... , and various governments can turn on a whim and there are so many different jurisdictions and agencies..  .. some people may have some better ideas than me regarding how  some of this will play out and whether they believe central players in ETH are not vulnerable to potential prosecution from various governmental regulatory agencies.

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May 21, 2016, 08:31:14 PM
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RIP Ethereum scam:

That looks painful.  Imagine what it's going to look like when the 150 million dollars worth of Ethereum locked in the DAO are finally allowed to sell on May 28th.



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May 21, 2016, 08:46:56 PM
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I can already see it unfold in the next year.... ETH will be pumped to the moon and dumped like a cheap hooker. We do not need a crystal ball to see this happening, but let's just warn the potential

bag holders, before they reach that stage. The miners are just following the profits, and will return to Bitcoin once the mass dumping has taken place. Bitcoin will still triumph in the end, but we will

have to put up with these pump n dumpers, before that happens.  Roll Eyes

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what a silly pile of bullshit this topic is.

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Some dbag Ethereum pumper took out a 1000 BTC short to try and make BTC look weak while attempting to pump ETH at the same time.  The Ethereum scamcoin pumper is eventually going to have to give up when he realizes he's not getting BTC any lower:



Eth scammers had been dumping actual BTCs on Finex before this.  It seems they have now run out and can only short now.

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May 22, 2016, 06:05:40 PM
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Some dbag Ethereum pumper took out a 1000 BTC short to try and make BTC look weak while attempting to pump ETH at the same time.  The Ethereum scamcoin pumper is eventually going to have to give up when he realizes he's not getting BTC any lower:



Eth scammers had been dumping actual BTCs on Finex before this.  It seems they have now run out and can only short now.

WELL it's quite effective lol

BTC plunging!!!!!!

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WELL it's quite effective lol

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Run before you lose everything

When you see constant spam like this from Ethereum scammers, that's when you always know Eth is about to implode.  BTC going down $5 does not make anyone interested in buying Eth.  Eth is not a hedge for anything.  It's just a scamcoin at the top of a pump.

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May 22, 2016, 07:40:17 PM
Last edit: May 22, 2016, 07:55:09 PM by shideneyu
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This topic is so funny  Cheesy

I'm laughing very hard when I see Bitcoin holders so afraid like that. If ETH was a scam, they would not even bask about it.

And when Bitcoin will crash during its halving, and ETH gets to $50, he'll say "THIS WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPEN IF IT WAS NOT FOR ETH" Cheesy

The two next months will be priceless. The fact is that Speculation talking, Ethereum has the most tremendous potential. And potential means Pump. It still has two updates called Metropolis and Serenity (with a GUI client and PoS !), and countless Decentralized Applications and Organisations coming our way.

Every altcoin is scams, except Ethereum, since it's not an alt. The reason is simple: This is a NEW project, made from scratch. Call it Bitcoin V2 if you want.

 Ethereum is not Bitcoin's rival, it is its future.
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