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May 14, 2016, 06:03:09 PM |
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There is a credit registry in your country I'm sure. If Albania has one every country in Europe has one. example: https://www.bankofalbania.org/web/Credit_Registry_3306_2.phpWhen you try to secure a loan, the bank investigates the information you provide and consults the credit registry. It is possible in my country to secure your identity using a third party. I'm not sure about your country. Suffice it to say, you have given someone enough information to at least secure loans on your name.
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May 14, 2016, 06:15:05 PM |
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Thank you a lot for the help
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May 14, 2016, 06:24:50 PM |
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I just got spammed by a spammer and i send him my id and driver licence and he didnt replied anymore. Please pm me only if you are interested not for hamful intensions
Your documents for sure someone will use to scam - probably he gonna open PayPal account with your data and will try to scum by trading BTC. Your proposition as well not look completly legal.. How you can have free electricity, and how you can guarantee that this situation will not change tomorrow?
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Endikadija (OP)
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May 14, 2016, 06:31:25 PM |
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I just got spammed by a spammer and i send him my id and driver licence and he didnt replied anymore. Please pm me only if you are interested not for hamful intensions
Your documents for sure someone will use to scam - probably he gonna open PayPal account with your data and will try to scum by trading BTC. Your proposition as well not look completly legal.. How you can have free electricity, and how you can guarantee that this situation will not change tomorrow? This situation is going since i was born. I dont see the future but based on how country is going i think that this situation will go for at least 4 years again
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May 14, 2016, 06:49:33 PM |
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I've seen the topic of stealing electricity discussed in my country as well. The way electricity consumption is monitored and reported is really archaic in many cases, this way making it easy for house owners to "cheat the system". But overall, it's not worth the risk as the provider is able to monitor month to month patterns and they have the right to come in to investigate. OP, other that the fact that what you're considering is unethical, if you've got nothing to lose I don't see why you came here to ask us.
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Endikadija (OP)
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May 14, 2016, 06:55:48 PM |
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I've seen the topic of stealing electricity discussed in my country as well. The way electricity consumption is monitored and reported is really archaic in many cases, this way making it easy for house owners to "cheat the system". But overall, it's not worth the risk as the provider is able to monitor month to month patterns and they have the right to come in to investigate. OP, other that the fact that what you're considering is unethical, if you've got nothing to lose I don't see why you came here to ask us.
I asked you because i dont have capital to the miners read the thread!! If i had capital i wouldnt write this thread.one s7 costs around 500 $. I am not at work so 500 $ are hard to find,at least here in my country which the medium salary is 200-300 $ a month !
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Endikadija (OP)
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May 14, 2016, 07:01:01 PM |
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You dont know how things go here. In the worst case if police comes to your home and discover it ( which will never occur) you can corrupt them eith 20 $ every month! Because i said almost 40 % of the contry dont pay electricity. Not to talk about the rural places which 90% dont pay and have never paid.anyway we are not here to talk about politics.i say that i dont pay electricity and i can gurantee for another 4 years it eill not be fixed.
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keyscore44
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May 14, 2016, 07:06:35 PM |
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I've seen the topic of stealing electricity discussed in my country as well. The way electricity consumption is monitored and reported is really archaic in many cases, this way making it easy for house owners to "cheat the system". But overall, it's not worth the risk as the provider is able to monitor month to month patterns and they have the right to come in to investigate. OP, other that the fact that what you're considering is unethical, if you've got nothing to lose I don't see why you came here to ask us.
Few months ago, employees of the power plant came to inspect my apartment, because I have not been for almost three months at that address, and that is why the bills came with zero to pay. They didn't like it .. so visited me with measuring devices.. I heard that sometimes employees of the power plant can have electricity for free, but I am not sure.
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May 14, 2016, 08:58:06 PM |
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I've seen the topic of stealing electricity discussed in my country as well. The way electricity consumption is monitored and reported is really archaic in many cases, this way making it easy for house owners to "cheat the system". But overall, it's not worth the risk as the provider is able to monitor month to month patterns and they have the right to come in to investigate. OP, other that the fact that what you're considering is unethical, if you've got nothing to lose I don't see why you came here to ask us.
Few months ago, employees of the power plant came to inspect my apartment, because I have not been for almost three months at that address, and that is why the bills came with zero to pay. They didn't like it .. so visited me with measuring devices.. I heard that sometimes employees of the power plant can have electricity for free, but I am not sure. That is an archaic system. The power plants in my country have to bid competitively in order to get their electricity on the market. The transmission lines are a totally different company and THEN the suppliers come next. All our meters are remote readable and they can monitor 24/7. Some people even opted to allow the supplier to control their air conditioning systems in case they need to conserve on very hot days in the summer. Don't worry, your countries will all get there - it's the next way for them to suck more money out of you under the guise of "efficiency". [sarcasm]Better to have 3 middlemen and an "independent" electricity operator to oversee the entire operation than one power company overseen by the government.[/sarcasm] Just so you know, in Albania, this should be completed by 2019 based on the information from the World Bank (they financed this effort with a loan in 2014) - it's all part of your countries' efforts to join the EU. You can't join until all your infrastructure has been revamped at taxpayer expense and ready to be bought by private investors at pennies on the dollar (I was going to use the Lek as an example but there is nothing smaller than a Lek!)... get ready to be financially raped.
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Endikadija (OP)
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May 14, 2016, 09:10:19 PM |
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Pff haahah the exatly things did the earlier goverment for 25 five years and promised that we would be in EU union in 2012,but 2012 passed.The goverment of that time said that the next yeas we would win.but in 2013 were elections so either in 2013.the new goverment said that in 2015 we would be part but still not,believe me you dont have a clue what happens here,there are the the same politicans for 25 years sinse 1990 since enver hoxha the dictator died.the politicans are all connected to the crime and every one knows it but no one says it because have afraid,here people cultivate mariuana in their garden and you say that they will fix the elctricity problem? believe me that will be the last thing
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May 15, 2016, 12:17:29 AM |
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Pff haahah the exatly things did the earlier goverment for 25 five years and promised that we would be in EU union in 2012,but 2012 passed.The goverment of that time said that the next yeas we would win.but in 2013 were elections so either in 2013.the new goverment said that in 2015 we would be part but still not,believe me you dont have a clue what happens here,there are the the same politicans for 25 years sinse 1990 since enver hoxha the dictator died.the politicans are all connected to the crime and every one knows it but no one says it because have afraid,here people cultivate mariuana in their garden and you say that they will fix the elctricity problem? believe me that will be the last thing
Actually they used to cultivate marijuana in their fields in Lazarat and sell it to greeks, Italians and germans. That was confiscated and burned in by police because Albania wants to join the EU. Politicians make all kinds fo promises but joining the EU is not a simple matter. First the government has to eliminate corruption which is not easy to do since it begins at the top levels of government and trickles down. Do you see billboard signs yet asking for snitches to call toll-free numbers to report corruption? Eventually, the EU will gladly accept Albania - especially for the $200-$300 per month labour.
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May 15, 2016, 06:50:58 AM |
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Pff haahah the exatly things did the earlier goverment for 25 five years and promised that we would be in EU union in 2012,but 2012 passed.The goverment of that time said that the next yeas we would win.but in 2013 were elections so either in 2013.the new goverment said that in 2015 we would be part but still not,believe me you dont have a clue what happens here,there are the the same politicans for 25 years sinse 1990 since enver hoxha the dictator died.the politicans are all connected to the crime and every one knows it but no one says it because have afraid,here people cultivate mariuana in their garden and you say that they will fix the elctricity problem? believe me that will be the last thing
Actually they used to cultivate marijuana in their fields in Lazarat and sell it to greeks, Italians and germans. That was confiscated and burned in by police because Albania wants to join the EU. Politicians make all kinds fo promises but joining the EU is not a simple matter. First the government has to eliminate corruption which is not easy to do since it begins at the top levels of government and trickles down. Do you see billboard signs yet asking for snitches to call toll-free numbers to report corruption? Eventually, the EU will gladly accept Albania - especially for the $200-$300 per month labour. Albania will join the EU after like 50 years or maybe EU will collapse untill then.I`m from Bulgaria. Let`s split the f***ing invented country of Macedonia between Albania and Bulgaira ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I`m drunk, i don`t know what i`m talking about lol...
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May 15, 2016, 10:22:44 AM |
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Pff haahah the exatly things did the earlier goverment for 25 five years and promised that we would be in EU union in 2012,but 2012 passed.The goverment of that time said that the next yeas we would win.but in 2013 were elections so either in 2013.the new goverment said that in 2015 we would be part but still not,believe me you dont have a clue what happens here,there are the the same politicans for 25 years sinse 1990 since enver hoxha the dictator died.the politicans are all connected to the crime and every one knows it but no one says it because have afraid,here people cultivate mariuana in their garden and you say that they will fix the elctricity problem? believe me that will be the last thing
Actually they used to cultivate marijuana in their fields in Lazarat and sell it to greeks, Italians and germans. That was confiscated and burned in by police because Albania wants to join the EU. Politicians make all kinds fo promises but joining the EU is not a simple matter. First the government has to eliminate corruption which is not easy to do since it begins at the top levels of government and trickles down. Do you see billboard signs yet asking for snitches to call toll-free numbers to report corruption? Eventually, the EU will gladly accept Albania - especially for the $200-$300 per month labour. Albania will join the EU after like 50 years or maybe EU will collapse untill then.I`m from Bulgaria. Let`s split the f***ing invented country of Macedonia between Albania and Bulgaira ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I`m drunk, i don`t know what i`m talking about lol... What a revolutionary! I have few Bulgarian friends, and i know that there is many changes. I think Bulgaria is in not so bad position in EU. hehe it is now political thread?! OP - One thing that I can suggest you about your idea. If you are sure about electricity, think abut some collateral, and try to take loan in landing section. (Long term landing) You can also ask in mining thread who stop mining becasue of electicity costs and want send you not used rigs. In my opinion, in your case, everything is about trust.
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May 15, 2016, 11:00:00 AM |
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Pff haahah the exatly things did the earlier goverment for 25 five years and promised that we would be in EU union in 2012,but 2012 passed.The goverment of that time said that the next yeas we would win.but in 2013 were elections so either in 2013.the new goverment said that in 2015 we would be part but still not,believe me you dont have a clue what happens here,there are the the same politicans for 25 years sinse 1990 since enver hoxha the dictator died.the politicans are all connected to the crime and every one knows it but no one says it because have afraid,here people cultivate mariuana in their garden and you say that they will fix the elctricity problem? believe me that will be the last thing
Actually they used to cultivate marijuana in their fields in Lazarat and sell it to greeks, Italians and germans. That was confiscated and burned in by police because Albania wants to join the EU. Politicians make all kinds fo promises but joining the EU is not a simple matter. First the government has to eliminate corruption which is not easy to do since it begins at the top levels of government and trickles down. Do you see billboard signs yet asking for snitches to call toll-free numbers to report corruption? Eventually, the EU will gladly accept Albania - especially for the $200-$300 per month labour. [/quote Did you know that laZarat is only 1%? As i said people here cultivates it in their gardens
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May 15, 2016, 12:03:12 PM |
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I live in a place in europe which is not very strict with laws and a lot of people take advantage and i am one of them. So i dont pay for the electricity not a single penny.
So basically you are stealing electricity from poles, right ? That doesn't seems to be a good idea because you will be fined and punished at any moment In my country the electricity charge is $0.07 per unit. I don't think that's much expensive
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May 15, 2016, 12:18:29 PM |
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I live in a place in europe which is not very strict with laws and a lot of people take advantage and i am one of them. So i dont pay for the electricity not a single penny.
So basically you are stealing electricity from poles, right ? That doesn't seems to be a good idea because you will be fined and punished at any moment In my country the electricity charge is $0.07 per unit. I don't think that's much expensive I do not want to defend the theft, but it seems to me that behind these words he wanted to say something else .. Something like: Do you know that since the 7th century, Cannabis has been cultivated in Morocco and this is one from most important national traditions, but drugs are there illegal?
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May 15, 2016, 01:28:06 PM |
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Pff haahah the exatly things did the earlier goverment for 25 five years and promised that we would be in EU union in 2012,but 2012 passed.The goverment of that time said that the next yeas we would win.but in 2013 were elections so either in 2013.the new goverment said that in 2015 we would be part but still not,believe me you dont have a clue what happens here,there are the the same politicans for 25 years sinse 1990 since enver hoxha the dictator died.the politicans are all connected to the crime and every one knows it but no one says it because have afraid,here people cultivate mariuana in their garden and you say that they will fix the elctricity problem? believe me that will be the last thing
Actually they used to cultivate marijuana in their fields in Lazarat and sell it to greeks, Italians and germans. That was confiscated and burned in by police because Albania wants to join the EU. Politicians make all kinds fo promises but joining the EU is not a simple matter. First the government has to eliminate corruption which is not easy to do since it begins at the top levels of government and trickles down. Do you see billboard signs yet asking for snitches to call toll-free numbers to report corruption? Eventually, the EU will gladly accept Albania - especially for the $200-$300 per month labour. Albania will join the EU after like 50 years or maybe EU will collapse untill then.I`m from Bulgaria. Let`s split the f***ing invented country of Macedonia between Albania and Bulgaira ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I`m drunk, i don`t know what i`m talking about lol... Good thing you aren't drinking with any Macedonians. They wouldn't like that kind of discussion ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) One of these days I'm going to have to slip across the border to visit Bulgaria. I hear it is beautiful and warm by the Black sea even in October. I think it would be nice to go to Beglik Tash for a beer but my wife wants to go to Nisipurile de Aur (Злaтни пяcъци)... maybe when I retire ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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May 15, 2016, 01:34:41 PM |
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Pff haahah the exatly things did the earlier goverment for 25 five years and promised that we would be in EU union in 2012,but 2012 passed.The goverment of that time said that the next yeas we would win.but in 2013 were elections so either in 2013.the new goverment said that in 2015 we would be part but still not,believe me you dont have a clue what happens here,there are the the same politicans for 25 years sinse 1990 since enver hoxha the dictator died.the politicans are all connected to the crime and every one knows it but no one says it because have afraid,here people cultivate mariuana in their garden and you say that they will fix the elctricity problem? believe me that will be the last thing
Actually they used to cultivate marijuana in their fields in Lazarat and sell it to greeks, Italians and germans. That was confiscated and burned in by police because Albania wants to join the EU. Politicians make all kinds fo promises but joining the EU is not a simple matter. First the government has to eliminate corruption which is not easy to do since it begins at the top levels of government and trickles down. Do you see billboard signs yet asking for snitches to call toll-free numbers to report corruption? Eventually, the EU will gladly accept Albania - especially for the $200-$300 per month labour. Did you know that laZarat is only 1%? As i said people here cultivates it in their gardens No I didn't know that but they made a big show of the burning in the media. It was on the BBC even. So it really was to make European Union believe Albania is serious about joining the EU.
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May 15, 2016, 01:46:36 PM |
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you said it! It is only a big show in tv but we who live here we know that hte place will never go in order,we dont trust in police because almost all police is corrupted.if you want to tell something bad that you know for someone or if you have problems with someone we dont go to police but solve problems ourselvs
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May 15, 2016, 02:42:29 PM |
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Meaning that you wanna a partner to make the investment and take the huge risk that somebody steal the equipment or even the polive corrupted can make it happen,soo besides that i dont see any advantages,and why your miner became unprofitable as you dont pay nothing for it?
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