Topic: Vcash - not the only project moderating because of XMR spam.

[bitcoin carpenter]

We are all tired of the same 10 posters repeating themselves in every thread thinly veiling their pro XMR agenda.

I have been around here long enough to remember a time before your shenaigans. 

Ill leave this unmoderated to prove my point.
Come one come all XMR fanboys and post away.  Or stay silent and prove me wrong.

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

We are all tired of the same 10 posters repeating themselves in every thread thinly veiling their pro XMR agenda.

I have been around here long enough to remember a time before your shenaigans. 

Ill leave this unmoderated to prove my point.
Come one come all XMR fanboys and post away.  Or stay silent and prove me wrong.

I hear you man. I started the Dash Nation Progress Thread, and they were like moths to a flame... good luck to you.

[bitcoin carpenter]

Reserved

[sockpuppet1]

The Devastation that man wrecks on himself (in short society is a power vacuum that requires a strong tyrant to beat the men into not defecting from the good of society):

Change the record you're boring

This forum has turned into a circus of lies and ponzi scams speculation:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1219023.msg14853958#msg14853958 (Vcash deleted posts)

Do not expect me to market anything which is "fair" to this audience. They don't want fair.

I am okay with that. Peace. You get yours and I'll get mine. That is the new world order you want.

Collectivism is a power vacuum and the argument is always about who gets to steal for and from whom.

Bernie: "Socialism can be repaired as long as I can be in charge of the stealing to insure it is fair".
Trump: "Stealing can be optimized if I am Dicktator-in-chief"
Clinton: "You'll tolerate my theft (for myself and my cronies) because as a Democrat I'll steal some for you too (and not remind you I funded it all by expanding an egregious future debt on your children's back)"

Stealing (scams, oligarchy, etc) is not the exception, rather it is the norm of human nature. Always will be.

The Lord warned us that this is the nature of man.

Don't forget the Iron Law of Political Economics.

[r0ach]

The words "Dash Nation" sounds like some type of WWF wrestling duo from the 80's, so your topic was bound to get trolled to oblivion regardless.  Stick with trying to create a coin and not bad gimmicks.  The ghetto, blue dalmatian is also not really something representative of a "high tech" cryptocurrency.  Fire the marketing department.  Back when it was called "Darkcoin", at least it had some type of marketing appeal as the new dark market currency.  Now it's a circus train wreck of blue dalmatians and 1980's wrestling terminology.

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

The words "Dash Nation" sounds like some type of WWF wrestling duo from the 80's, so your topic was bound to get trolled to oblivion regardless.  Stick with trying to create a coin and not bad gimmicks.  The ghetto, blue dalmatian is also not really something representative of a "high tech" cryptocurrency.  Fire the marketing department.  Back when it was called "Darkcoin", at least it had some type of marketing appeal as the new dark market currency.  Now it's a circus train wreck of blue dalmatians and 1980's wrestling terminology.

Pity. I guess you won't be joining our highly successful community, then? Dash Nation is on a serious roll right now, thanks in part to our marketing department and blue dalmatians...

[DaveyJones]

Difference with the Community is that one can dicuss things with arguments the other can not... thus leading in some people rather believing in that community then others .

Speaking of discussion, if you can argument and discuss why delete messages? If there is no solid fundament for the fact or it is plain spam you don´t believe the general audience would see through that??


IMO just a bad excuse for self-moderation

[doremi]

Difference with the Community is that one can dicuss things with arguments the other can not... thus leading in some people rather believing in that community then others .

Speaking of discussion, if you can argument and discuss why delete messages? If there is no solid fundament for the fact or it is plain spam you don´t believe the general audience would see through that??


IMO just a bad excuse for self-moderation

do you mean the thread like this?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.0

and you are right,that is the reason i will never want to invest to a coin that sounds like "Morone"

[r0ach]

Pity. I guess you won't be joining our highly successful community, then? Dash Nation is on a serious roll right now, thanks in part to our marketing department and blue dalmatians...

I'm aware of why all this occurred.  The Duffler wanted to de-criminalize the image of the coin, but the new image is blah.  If Satoshi launched with block reward set to 500 and later changed it to 50, then reduced coin supply to 5.25 million on top of that, Bitcoin would never of had any adoption due to being seen as a pyramid scheme on steroids, so there is that problem too.  I'm tired of people thinking they can get away with things that Bitcoin itself could not get away with.  Things like premines.  Anything over 0% premine used to be considered a scam, now we have people like Vitalik premining the entire coin.  

Bitcoin would be worth 0 if it was premined.  The things that Bitcoin could not get away with that Darkcoin thinks it can will likely also cause Darkcoin to be worth 0 in the long term.  Why do people think the standards are more lax post-Bitcoin?  Yes, you're going to claim it was an "error", but things like GPUCoin had the same problem and relaunched after it was discovered.  Then changing the money supply after already having this "error" makes the whole thing insane.  You cannot present this coin to people with a straight face while saying it's an "honest money" solution to their current fiat problem.

All you can honestly tell them is that worst case it was a scam, and best case it was an incompetently run financial product.  As a non-biased 3rd party of Darkcoin vs Monero, it is very hard to get behind Darkcoin because Monero is superior in technical form, while also not having all the questionable intent to be an orchestrated scam.

I have also thought about the whole passive mixing of Monero and Zcash vs the active mixing by design of Darkcoin.  It seems kind of obvious that governments would be far more likely to consider active mixing as an act of laundering, while if anonymity is part of the protocol itself, it's just a shortcoming of government auditing.  Both Monero and Zcash are safer legal-wise, although you would likely have to enforce a fixed mix count instead of variable if you really wanted to be safe in Monero.  I'm not super read up on all the workings of Zcash, but it might be the safest of the three in legality.  Zcash does have big drawbacks where I'm not sure if it actually is an improvement or not on what's available in other areas.

[DaveyJones]

Difference with the Community is that one can dicuss things with arguments the other can not... thus leading in some people rather believing in that community then others .

Speaking of discussion, if you can argument and discuss why delete messages? If there is no solid fundament for the fact or it is plain spam you don´t believe the general audience would see through that??


IMO just a bad excuse for self-moderation

do you mean the thread like this?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.0

and you are right,that is the reason i will never want to invest to a coin that sounds like "Morone"

If you would follow the thread the deleted messages get written by smooth in red and tiny letters after deletion. Does not change the fact that some people can argue and give facts while others just deny and go on. Name is one of the most stupid reasons as argument to invest into sth... IMO two of the most valued companies are called Apple or FaceBook

[doremi]

Difference with the Community is that one can dicuss things with arguments the other can not... thus leading in some people rather believing in that community then others .

Speaking of discussion, if you can argument and discuss why delete messages? If there is no solid fundament for the fact or it is plain spam you don´t believe the general audience would see through that??


IMO just a bad excuse for self-moderation

do you mean the thread like this?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.0

and you are right,that is the reason i will never want to invest to a coin that sounds like "Morone"

If you would follow the thread the deleted messages get written by smooth in red and tiny letters after deletion. Does not change the fact that some people can argue and give facts while others just deny and go on. Name is one of the most stupid reasons as argument to invest into sth... IMO two of the most valued companies are called Apple or FaceBook

smooth deleted tons of messages that get writen by more others!how would you explain for that then?

[smooth]

Difference with the Community is that one can dicuss things with arguments the other can not... thus leading in some people rather believing in that community then others .

Speaking of discussion, if you can argument and discuss why delete messages? If there is no solid fundament for the fact or it is plain spam you don´t believe the general audience would see through that??


IMO just a bad excuse for self-moderation

do you mean the thread like this?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.0

and you are right,that is the reason i will never want to invest to a coin that sounds like "Morone"

If you would follow the thread the deleted messages get written by smooth in red and tiny letters after deletion. Does not change the fact that some people can argue and give facts while others just deny and go on. Name is one of the most stupid reasons as argument to invest into sth... IMO two of the most valued companies are called Apple or FaceBook

smooth deleted tons of messages that get writen by more others!how would you explain for that then?

Did not happen, especially "tons" of messages (deletions are very rare, months may go by with none at all). Sometimes the original poster will delete messages; I have no control over that. I'm not sure if forum mods delete posts on self-moderated threads, but I guess that is also possible.

Meanwhile 2 or 3 of my on-topic and factually accurate (with references provided) posts were deleted from one of the Vcash pumping threads within days. There is no comparison here.

[doremi]

Difference with the Community is that one can dicuss things with arguments the other can not... thus leading in some people rather believing in that community then others .

Speaking of discussion, if you can argument and discuss why delete messages? If there is no solid fundament for the fact or it is plain spam you don´t believe the general audience would see through that??


IMO just a bad excuse for self-moderation

do you mean the thread like this?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.0

and you are right,that is the reason i will never want to invest to a coin that sounds like "Morone"

If you would follow the thread the deleted messages get written by smooth in red and tiny letters after deletion. Does not change the fact that some people can argue and give facts while others just deny and go on. Name is one of the most stupid reasons as argument to invest into sth... IMO two of the most valued companies are called Apple or FaceBook

smooth deleted tons of messages that get writen by more others!how would you explain for that then?

Did not happen, especially "tons" of messages (deletions are very rare, months may go by with none at all). Sometimes the original poster will delete messages; I have no control over that. I'm not sure if forum mods delete posts on self-moderated threads, but I guess that is also possible.

Meanwhile 2 or 3 of my on-topic and factually accurate (with references provided) posts were deleted from one of the Vcash pumping threads within days. There is no comparison here.

come on liar,don`t give me that

[smooth]

Difference with the Community is that one can dicuss things with arguments the other can not... thus leading in some people rather believing in that community then others .

Speaking of discussion, if you can argument and discuss why delete messages? If there is no solid fundament for the fact or it is plain spam you don´t believe the general audience would see through that??


IMO just a bad excuse for self-moderation

do you mean the thread like this?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.0

and you are right,that is the reason i will never want to invest to a coin that sounds like "Morone"

If you would follow the thread the deleted messages get written by smooth in red and tiny letters after deletion. Does not change the fact that some people can argue and give facts while others just deny and go on. Name is one of the most stupid reasons as argument to invest into sth... IMO two of the most valued companies are called Apple or FaceBook

smooth deleted tons of messages that get writen by more others!how would you explain for that then?

Did not happen, especially "tons" of messages (deletions are very rare, months may go by with none at all). Sometimes the original poster will delete messages; I have no control over that. I'm not sure if forum mods delete posts on self-moderated threads, but I guess that is also possible.

Meanwhile 2 or 3 of my on-topic and factually accurate (with references provided) posts were deleted from one of the Vcash pumping threads within days. There is no comparison here.

come on liar,don`t give me that

It's hard to lie on the internet. There are always people saving things, sites that archive web sites, people comparing source code, etc.

Just show the evidence, or GTFO

[doremi]

Difference with the Community is that one can dicuss things with arguments the other can not... thus leading in some people rather believing in that community then others .

Speaking of discussion, if you can argument and discuss why delete messages? If there is no solid fundament for the fact or it is plain spam you don´t believe the general audience would see through that??


IMO just a bad excuse for self-moderation

do you mean the thread like this?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.0

and you are right,that is the reason i will never want to invest to a coin that sounds like "Morone"

If you would follow the thread the deleted messages get written by smooth in red and tiny letters after deletion. Does not change the fact that some people can argue and give facts while others just deny and go on. Name is one of the most stupid reasons as argument to invest into sth... IMO two of the most valued companies are called Apple or FaceBook

smooth deleted tons of messages that get writen by more others!how would you explain for that then?

Did not happen, especially "tons" of messages (deletions are very rare, months may go by with none at all). Sometimes the original poster will delete messages; I have no control over that. I'm not sure if forum mods delete posts on self-moderated threads, but I guess that is also possible.

Meanwhile 2 or 3 of my on-topic and factually accurate (with references provided) posts were deleted from one of the Vcash pumping threads within days. There is no comparison here.

come on liar,don`t give me that

It's hard to lie on the internet. There are always people saving things, sites that archive web sites, people comparing source code, etc.

Just show the evidence, or GTFO

enjoy yourself liarand btw..i won`t bother to reply to your next garbage talk

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1151565.0

[smooth]

Difference with the Community is that one can dicuss things with arguments the other can not... thus leading in some people rather believing in that community then others .

Speaking of discussion, if you can argument and discuss why delete messages? If there is no solid fundament for the fact or it is plain spam you don´t believe the general audience would see through that??


IMO just a bad excuse for self-moderation

do you mean the thread like this?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.0

and you are right,that is the reason i will never want to invest to a coin that sounds like "Morone"

If you would follow the thread the deleted messages get written by smooth in red and tiny letters after deletion. Does not change the fact that some people can argue and give facts while others just deny and go on. Name is one of the most stupid reasons as argument to invest into sth... IMO two of the most valued companies are called Apple or FaceBook

smooth deleted tons of messages that get writen by more others!how would you explain for that then?

Did not happen, especially "tons" of messages (deletions are very rare, months may go by with none at all). Sometimes the original poster will delete messages; I have no control over that. I'm not sure if forum mods delete posts on self-moderated threads, but I guess that is also possible.

Meanwhile 2 or 3 of my on-topic and factually accurate (with references provided) posts were deleted from one of the Vcash pumping threads within days. There is no comparison here.

come on liar,don`t give me that

It's hard to lie on the internet. There are always people saving things, sites that archive web sites, people comparing source code, etc.

Just show the evidence, or GTFO

enjoy yourself liarand btw..i won`t bother to reply to your next garbage talk

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1151565.0

Oh good, one of the many hate threads created about me by scamming shitcoiners, a recurrent phenomenon which helps demonstrate my integrity.

Since you didn't answer, I'll ask again: Where is the evidence of me deleting "tons of messages"? Quote it, link to it, etc.

[doremi]

the most notorious liar ever

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1151565.0

[smooth]

The record will show that doremi has apparently admitted he is full of shit by not posting any evidence to support his allegation of me deleting "ton of posts".

From which scamming shitcoin do you hail, doremi? I don't remember you, but from your behavior it must be one of them.

[luvbeening]

the most notorious liar ever

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1151565.0

nice move doremi!wise enought to not fall into liar's trap lol

[generalizethis]

the most notorious liar ever

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1151565.0

nice move doremi!wise enought to not fall into liar's trap lol

So dude can't produce evidence of his accusation and instead raises some old hate thread--yeah, nice move. And yes, he was caught lying and sidestepped the question--so saying "wise enough to not fall into the liar's trap lol" says a lot more than you think. Though I think it was more self-preservation than wisdom--as a wise man wouldn't make claims he couldn't back or could find a less obvious ploy to distract attention.