Warning: Directbet selective scam 38+ btc CAUTION

[robinH]

Yeah directbet.eu, how about making clear what your kyc entails?  If you sincerely want this matter solved, how about responding to hungerstyle's emails?

[Quickseller]

We believe that the evidence provided is sufficient to suggest that a double spend was attempted.

I don't think you have presented any evidence of a double spend attempt against DirectBet.eu by the OP.

When you send out a transaction with extremely low fees and a few hours later double spend it with extremely high fees, and you then repeat on the same pattern over and over again, that can not possibly be wallet misconfiguration or user error or fee saving. That's intentional fraud.

1. This is not what happened.
2. This would only be fraud if the sender of the original transaction received some kind of benefit from the original transaction and the recipient of the transaction provided that benefit while relying on a 0/unconfirmed transaction.

That being said, even if you disagree with the above, please note that Bitcoin Sportsbooks realize that due to the anonymous nature of Bitcoin, it may not always be possible to show to the public bullet proof evidence of fraud attempt.

If you cannot show the public this evidence and keep the better's money anyway, then you will be viewed by the public as untrustworthy.

For this reason, there is a standard universal rule among Bitcoin Sportsbooks that entitles them to confiscate coins when they believe a fraud is involved. Notice that we say "believe", not "prove".

So you might be able to weasel your way out of a lawsuit, but this does not change the public perception of your site if you have confiscate money like you have to the OP

Here is the rule of NitrogenSports :

If Nitrogen Sports believes that any customer has intentionally acted in bad faith or has engaged in fraudulent activity, Nitrogen Sports reserves the right to take any steps necessary.

I have personally trusted Nitrogen Sports with large amounts of BTC, while sending them transactions with 0 fees, placed a bet, won the bet prior to my deposit receiving a confirmation, and then withdrew without any issues after the transaction confirmed. Sometimes their spam filters will prevent me from getting instant credit for a 0 fee transaction so I will wait for a single confirmation.

I would not however trust your site with any of my money if I wanted to place a sports bet.

During the past 2.5 years we have developed extensive knowledge, experience and tools that allow us to distinguish between fraud attempts and regular bets.

So you have never fallen victim to people double spending loosing bets?

Did on what day directbet send agreement? Never.

As we informed you from the very beginning, in order to proceed you first need to pass a standard KYC procedure to authenticate the contact information that you provided for the agreement and we will then prepare the agreement for you to sign.

That is BS and you know it.

[DirectBet]

What do you need since you not respond to email anymore

As we informed you via e-mail more than a month ago, we require that you send us a photo copy of your passport and a recent utility bill to confirm the contact information that you provided for the agreement.

We will then send you an agreement to sign. We already posted here the content of the agreement.

As soon as you send us back the signed agreement we will return your coins.

We seriously want to resolve this matter with you and hope that you will cooperate.

[hungerstyle]

What do you need since you not respond to email anymore

As we informed you via e-mail more than a month ago, we require that you send us a photo copy of your passport and a recent utility bill to confirm the contact information that you provided for the agreement.

We will then send you an agreement to sign. We already posted here the content of the agreement.

As soon as you send us back the signed agreement we will return your coins.

We seriously want to resolve this matter with you and hope that you will cooperate.

ok i post to share once you send

[TwitchySeal]

Hope to see this end, was getting worried op gave up.

[hungerstyle]

Hope to see this end, was getting worried op gave up.

Db now have scan passport internet bill + sign agreement. Agreement say post payout to original 1E66h8kzMvmQobkQDDtSwxmR8SDzUxqzhd so everyone blockchain see. I just now will claim with local exchange now.

[eneilwex]

Hope to see this end, was getting worried op gave up.

Db now have scan passport internet bill + sign agreement. Agreement say post payout to original 1E66h8kzMvmQobkQDDtSwxmR8SDzUxqzhd so everyone blockchain see. I just now will claim with local exchange now.

NICE! directbet over to you now, Op just confirmed he has submitted the kyc documents. It's your turn now to do as promised and refund
Op.   

[TwitchySeal]

I see no bitcoin sent to 1E66h8kzMvmQobkQDDtSwxmR8SDzUxqzhd

Is the bs over or no?

[robinH]

Obviously directbet.eu never wanted to refund hungerstyle. Demanding his dox was only a charade, designed to masquerade as if they intend to, making them look like the good guys.

I wonder what their next move would be? Maybe demand hair, blood and saliva samples before refunding money they had no right to keep in the 1st place.

[21BTC]

Reading the complete topic i just got to one conclusion.
"DIRECTBET CAN SCAM YOU WHENEVER THEY WANT"
1.First off all there is no solid proof that proves it that OP was trying to cheat there system and even if he tried,he agreed to not do it again and still Directbet did not refund him and furthermore asked him to fullfilll KYC,what a bullshit.It's not cash or banks involved that you would need to do KYC and moreover it would not stop him to do the same again in future by being anonymous.
2.Secondly,i only seem to guess,that directbet just tried to make OP giveup.They never intentioned to return his bitcoins.Clearly directbet if you are reading this then understand it,it's your mistake that your site is exploitable not OP.
I thought i would start betting on directbet but seeing this thread,just changed my mind 

[hungerstyle]

I see no bitcoin sent to 1E66h8kzMvmQobkQDDtSwxmR8SDzUxqzhd

Is the bs over or no?

Hi XXXX

We still haven't heard back from you. You didn't attach your passport to the

agreement as requested.

As we informed you, the passport that you sent before we prepared the
agreement is invalid since it does not include a passport number.

Please send a photo copy of your passport in the specific way we asked
before we sent you the agreement.

If you don't have it available you can alternatively send your NC driver
license.

If that's not possible either please reply with an explanation for that and
lets discuss other possible solutions.

Since you posted in public there are people waiting for us to respond. We
therefore ask that you reply within 24 hours. If we don't hear from you
within the next 24 hours we will assume you are not interested in
cooperating and the deal is off."""






I send copy of passport + bill. Obvious not give passport number with identy theif all over internet so black out number of scan.

Directbet just rush with now want driver license picture???

So clear DB not intend with 24 hour deal off and more and more and more.

[21BTC]

I see no bitcoin sent to 1E66h8kzMvmQobkQDDtSwxmR8SDzUxqzhd

Is the bs over or no?

Hi XXXX

We still haven't heard back from you. You didn't attach your passport to the

agreement as requested.

As we informed you, the passport that you sent before we prepared the
agreement is invalid since it does not include a passport number.

Please send a photo copy of your passport in the specific way we asked
before we sent you the agreement.

If you don't have it available you can alternatively send your NC driver
license.

If that's not possible either please reply with an explanation for that and
lets discuss other possible solutions.

Since you posted in public there are people waiting for us to respond. We
therefore ask that you reply within 24 hours. If we don't hear from you
within the next 24 hours we will assume you are not interested in
cooperating and the deal is off."""






I send copy of passport + bill. Obvious not give passport number with identy theif all over internet so black out number of scan.

Directbet just rush with now want driver license picture???

So clear DB not intend with 24 hour deal off and more and more and more.

They are just making you fool. They are scammers after all

[robinH]

Why am I not surprised? directbet.eu asking for more dox.... You never intended to refund hungerstyle directbet.eu. Quit the charade. We   see through your scam. What do you need his passport number for? How would that info ensure your platform won't be exploited?

directbet.eu Why don't you post your gambling licence for all to see? Your address?  Phone numbers? An anonymous book asking for official dox. This is just stupid.  Pay the man his money. Why make things impossible after claiming you "really" want this solved. Your 24 hours ultimatum only shows how desperate you are to steal the btc.

[TwitchySeal]

His passport number?  Are you fucking serious?

Ive remained quiet on this recently because I believed it was going to be worked out.

Now, over a month after the bet is made, Directbet has the audacity to say "If we don't hear from you
within the next 24 hours we will assume you are not interested in
cooperating and the deal is off."

You deserve every bit of negative trust coming your way Direct Bet.

[21BTC]

I wish Some GREEN TRUSTED Member can also neg rep "DirectBet"
Why does still no green trusted member has neg rep directbet yet? i think we should pm users like VOD etc 

[DirectBet]

After more than a week of silence, hungerstyle finally sent a passport and utility bill.

However, the passport provided is invalid, as it does not have a passport number, and it was manipulated in an image editing tool. In addition, the address in the utility bill does not match the address previously given for the agreement, it's not even in the same country !

Nevertheless, in an effort to make a progress, we prepared and sent him an agreement to sign, and we asked that he attach to the agreement an image of himself holding the passport that he just sent along with a note of today's date.

hungerstyle sent us back the agreement while completely ignoring our passport request. He then rushed to the forums here to announce that he complied with our request, even though he was fully aware that he did not.

We then asked him again to comply with our passport request and he replied that he does not have access to his passport.

In an effort to expedite the progress we asked if he can send his driver license instead. At that point he stopped responding to our e-mails and finally after more than 20 hours and only after we gave him a deadline he replied that he does not have a driver license while failing to suggest an alternative.

hungerstyle is either trying to make a fun of us, or he is stalling to buy some more time that will allow him to obtain new faked documents on the dark markets in order to meet our requirement.

It's time to put an end to this.

We gave hungerstyle 24 hours to send us his passport or driver license. We are also open to discuss an alternative government official document that he can send within this time frame. It really shouldn't take him more than a minute to take a picture of himself with an official ID, unless of course the documents that he provided are faked.

If he fails to do so we will assume he can't comply, that the documents submitted are faked, and will declare the KYC as failed. We will not accept new documents afterwards.

If he does end up complying with our request it will take us a few days to verify the documents after which we will send him the coins.

[SparkedDev]

I haven given them negative rep for the time being, until this is cleared up, normally i don't bother with it.
I love directs site btw, but seems like this is something that needs to be cleared up.

Even tho i am a little concerned about those double spends because Ive seen an increase on a few sites that are gambling related.

[DarkDays]

It doesn't make sense to request a license, passport, or signed documents of any kind to return the coins.  Those things can't prevent this from happening again, as someone could easily use a different wallet address, different computer, and different IP.  Unless you are saying that you are going to start requesting dox from every single person on your site (which, again, won't be able to stop what you think is going on from happening).  The only way to prevent this is to stop allowing 0 confirm bets.  You already have playing wallets in the casino, it makes no sense to not integrate that into the sportsbook as well (and no, I don't mean sending your coins from your casino wallet to fund sportsbets, I mean being able to carry a balance on the sportsbook).  This is how every other major sportsbook operates.  The only ethical thing to do is to refund the man's money and shore up your security issues.  It would be nice if you lowered your insanely high juice as well, but one issue at a time.

[TwitchySeal]

After more than a week of silence, hungerstyle finally sent a passport and utility bill.

However, the passport provided is invalid, as it does not have a passport number, and it was manipulated in an image editing tool. In addition, the address in the utility bill does not match the address previously given for the agreement, it's not even in the same country !

Nevertheless, in an effort to make a progress, we prepared and sent him an agreement to sign, and we asked that he attach to the agreement an image of himself holding the passport that he just sent along with a note of today's date.

hungerstyle sent us back the agreement while completely ignoring our passport request. He then rushed to the forums here to announce that he complied with our request, even though he was fully aware that he did not.

We then asked him again to comply with our passport request and he replied that he does not have access to his passport.

In an effort to expedite the progress we asked if he can send his driver license instead. At that point he stopped responding to our e-mails and finally after more than 20 hours and only after we gave him a deadline he replied that he does not have a driver license while failing to suggest an alternative.

hungerstyle is either trying to make a fun of us, or he is stalling to buy some more time that will allow him to obtain new faked documents on the dark markets in order to meet our requirement.

It's time to put an end to this.

We gave hungerstyle 24 hours to send us his passport or driver license. We are also open to discuss an alternative government official document that he can send within this time frame. It really shouldn't take him more than a minute to take a picture of himself with an official ID, unless of course the documents that he provided are faked.

If he fails to do so we will assume he can't comply, that the documents submitted are faked, and will declare the KYC as failed. We will not accept new documents afterwards.

If he does end up complying with our request it will take us a few days to verify the documents after which we will send him the coins.

Its truly pathetic to see you discussing KYC requirements to justify keeping 38btc you never intended to keep.

[robinH]

Stop spewing crap and  pay  the man his money.....Why should he send you his dox anyway? If I were him I wouldn't. You are an unlicensed book. You are anonymous,  Why in God's name do you need his dox to return the funds?  Stop shifting the goal post directbet.eu.