First of all no im not selling a good here but i believe this is the appropriate section as most sales happen here or in auction place and this will be read from potential scumbags who are selling accounts or potential scammers buying accounts.
Is everyone who is selling an account a scumbag? The answer is obviously no to that but i think those of you who do sell the accounts are helping the potential scammers of the forum. So technically youre guilty of scamming by association or something like that. Yes i know youre trying to earn some btc and its just a way to make some money, but your little .001-.5btc you earn could potentially lead to someone else losing .5-50btc.
The argument im pretty sure ill hear here will be if ppl used escrow thered be less scams. I agree 100% but have you not taken the time to read half the scam accusations that pop up? Same stupid excuse over n over. He was a hero member i thought i could trust him. Or some other ridiculous speech. Bottom line, people are retarded. Theyre too lazy to search for an escrow or a suitable escrow isnt online at that time so they take the risk.
Now while account sales arent illegal here, only frowned upon, i think there should be some sort of line drawn. Should account sales be allowed? I think up to a certain rank yes. IMO selling of accounts member or below is ok as most likely theyve not accrued much reputation and they will most likely be bought specifically for signature campaign earnings. Any rank higher has extreme potential for scamming. Especially when you see sales threads advertising green rep.(most likely seller has no clue of how trust works, but certain users could still see a user as green if the acct is in their trust network)
Im almost to the point where i feel like sellers should be tagged by DT. Something needs to be done 1 way or another
The next point i want to make to sellers about selling accounts is while account sales are allowed for now, at least get your damn moneys worth. Im seeing threads with users selling full member accounts with BIN prices of .03. WTF is that?
I dont know what ppl should pay for accounts but you would think since it takes approx 4.5 months to reach full member status that the account should be worth at least 1 month of what a user can earn from a sig campaign. Quit selling shit for third world prices. Make em pay or dont sell. Its all a part of discouraging scammers in the long run. Same goes for any rank account youre trying to sell.
The only message i have for buyers is QUIT TRYING to LOWBALL SELLERS. Pay up or shut up.
I could go on all night long on this subject but you people get the points im trying to make here. At least some of you should.
Originally posted in digital goods
Will address the latter part of your post first due to it being easier to pin down. Account sales are needed for loaners to recoup their loses from defaulted loans. So when you are wanting to get rid of account sales,you might as well be saying loans as well.
Sure some people would see that as a good thing as well and it usually comes from this utopia people want here,where their values are reflected in bitcoin.
The price of accounts is due to sellers flooding the market and people scared that attacks like this thread might get the rules changed and they would be caught with a bunch of garbage accounts and out of pocket. People are also stupid and that is why you see lowball offers,try selling a car on craigslist and you will be lowballed to no end.
The trust driven agendas do not sit well with me and it always feels a bit abrasive in nature to start labeling accounts in a fashion that feels predatory. Stupid people are every where and stripping the forum down because people get scammed is really achieving what?
We have proposed a system for electronic transactions without relying on trust.
Satoshi Nakamoto (White Papers)
