Is anonymity Acceptable?

[wallet4bitcoin]

I was under the impression that Bitcoin has always been hailed for its ability to conduct anonymous transactions and was considered an anonymous digital currency as it is still possible to buy/sell/trade bitcoin without the requirement of  identity proof or address proof.

However there seems to be much consensus on the forum that trust in trading bitcoin is synonymous with knowing the named identity of person you are trading with. 

Is it acceptable to trade anonymously within the bitcointalk marketplace?
Is it the general consensus that doing so makes you untrustworthy by default?

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[ezeminer]

I was under the impression that Bitcoin has always been hailed for its ability to conduct anonymous transactions and was considered an anonymous digital currency as it is still possible to buy/sell/trade bitcoin without the requirement of  identity proof or address proof.

However there seems to be much consensus on the forum that trust in trading bitcoin is synonymous with knowing the named identity of person you are trading with. 

Is it acceptable to trade anonymously within the bitcointalk marketplace?
Is it the general consensus that doing so makes you untrustworthy by default?

Depends on who you are. You could be a person with a P.O. box to keep information more secretive. You could sign messages as your forum name, you could make the return address on a package with a fake name. I have sent stuff to people with the name of Else Webconsultancy.

I don't know if this is like the right section to ask the question, maybe try bitcoin discussion?

[Bitcoinbee]

It is a known fact that when we trade we always have to know with whom are we dealing with.  Anonymity for the fact that it is really not necessary for one to expose its true identity or information or location to anyone not concerned.  To personally do trades is to be in the same region where the traders concerned needs to know the status of each other.  But there are other interpretation based on the strategies being practiced by other traders.  As for me i have to keep a low profile to the world but to be known to my trading partners.

[fortunecrypto]

I was under the impression that Bitcoin has always been hailed for its ability to conduct anonymous transactions and was considered an anonymous digital currency as it is still possible to buy/sell/trade bitcoin without the requirement of  identity proof or address proof.

However there seems to be much consensus on the forum that trust in trading bitcoin is synonymous with knowing the named identity of person you are trading with. 

Is it acceptable to trade anonymously within the bitcointalk marketplace?
Is it the general consensus that doing so makes you untrustworthy by default?

As long as you are trading with a guy with a good reputation it is ok and as long as the person you are conducting a trade is comfortable showing his identity is ok, it is up on how you both deal with the trade..

[socks435]

I was under the impression that Bitcoin has always been hailed for its ability to conduct anonymous transactions and was considered an anonymous digital currency as it is still possible to buy/sell/trade bitcoin without the requirement of  identity proof or address proof.

However there seems to be much consensus on the forum that trust in trading bitcoin is synonymous with knowing the named identity of person you are trading with. 

Is it acceptable to trade anonymously within the bitcointalk marketplace?
Is it the general consensus that doing so makes you untrustworthy by default?

For me its acceptable to trade anonymously in marketplaces but i always use escrow to sure that im too far from any scammer.. your second problem i dont really understand what do you mean but all online even here in forum are not trustworthy so never trust anyone just to be safe..

[techgeek]

I think for trading purposes it is, esp when you dont know who youre selling your bitcoins to..

And it also protects you as well, to a certain extent if you plan on trading since its still like a grey area for the law with bitcoin.

But this also questions on how much in volume though, cause if you do a massive volume I`d think youre a drug dealer.

Anyone who does less usually dont have a p.o box unless they use it for their current other business.

[raphma]

Like @socks435 said, i'm ok with it as long as using escrow.
I dont care with who i'm trading with but i dont want to be scammed.

[Herbert2020]

it will all come down to trust and nothing else. when you see an old member who has been conducting business on the forum for a very long time and has already traded a lot of money in this process you feel safer even if you have no idea about his identity. plus you can always use an escrow even with the most trusted members to ensure the exchange.

[SFR10]

Well there's always the case of doing the trades to what other option, since some have sort of a charge back thing going on therefor if your going to do those types of trades then it wouldn't be acceptable to trade anonymously because you could runaway with your opposite party funds and never fulfill their needs and as result they wouldn't be able to track you but if your in a trade that doesn't apply in the first scenario then it won't be necessary to identify yourself (as long as you've got some reputation going on). If you remain anonymous for such trades, it doesn't makes you untrustworthy by default, but rather less trustworthy in the beginning.

[groozh]

You can trade based on reputation without sacrificing anonymity. They're not mutually exclusive

[Bitcoinbee]

it will all come down to trust and nothing else. when you see an old member who has been conducting business on the forum for a very long time and has already traded a lot of money in this process you feel safer even if you have no idea about his identity. plus you can always use an escrow even with the most trusted members to ensure the exchange.

 


Yup escrow is is better even doing huge trades. Like in my region escrow and its traders within the corporation I can double their trust rating because I know them personally and I have knowledge on how they do trades with other traders big or small amounts.

[wallet4bitcoin]

Thanks for everybodys' input. It seems to me whether or not someone engages in trade with you comes down 2 main factors: 1) Perceived Risk & 2) Legitamacy of the product/service offered. The higher the perceived level of risk, the more the trading members reputation comes into play, but that where there is any level of risk an escrow never hurts (except for the fee of course)

I wanted to put the feelers out as I'm considering providing a service on the market place starting this monday. Based on the feedback from these posts, as I'll be offering a legitimate service up front before asking for any bitcoin, there will be no level of risk & this should hopefully compensate my junior status & minimal reputation. I've no plans moving toward larger trades/transaction but if I ever did then I'll offer a reputable escrow service. I don't currently have an extensive trust list but I'm confident this will grow as I begin active trades with others members & I receive positive untrusted/trusted feedbacks.

It will be interesting to see how this thread grows & what other members have to say on the matter of anonymity.

[romero121]

Anonymity gives access to each and every user to do their own transaction. There are banks which have certain limitations though they have provided their identity. So this anonymous nature is preferred by people who wish to have their earning in a secure and secret manner.

[Bitcoinbee]

Anonymity gives access to each and every user to do their own transaction. There are banks which have certain limitations though they have provided their identity. So this anonymous nature is preferred by people who wish to have their earning in a secure and secret manner.

it is more safer to be at a low profile so as not to be in an awkward situation of being harassed by anyone that has no trade relationship.

[outatime1]

To make transaction with bitcoin, you usually need to have a history of trust among forum members.  I don't think you need to reveal your identity, but your account should have a positive history before you can borrow, etc.

[thesame12]

No need to reveal your identity. All you need is a history of successful trades that aren't necessarily with trusted members of the community.

[Bitcoinbee]

No need to reveal your identity. All you need is a history of successful trades that aren't necessarily with trusted members of the community.

Identity is not really a big deal.  But to put a trust on an online trader doing small trades would be just fine.  But to deal with huge amount is another story.  I dont put chances to gamble on it.  I prefer localbitcoins with whom i personally check the legitimacy and capacity to do trades.  If scam occurs I can easily had their licence or permits rebooked and can easily file legal criminal case.  Thats why i have to know traders doing big trades with my team.

[Fatanut]

No need to reveal your identity. All you need is a history of successful trades that aren't necessarily with trusted members of the community.

Identity is not really a big deal.  But to put a trust on an online trader doing small trades would be just fine.  But to deal with huge amount is another story.  I dont put chances to gamble on it.  I prefer localbitcoins with whom i personally check the legitimacy and capacity to do trades.  If scam occurs I can easily had their licence or permits rebooked and can easily file legal criminal case.  Thats why i have to know traders doing big trades with my team.

Identities can easily be faked. If you're doing a huge transaction, I bet it'd be okay if the other party goes first and upon receiving, you send them the payment. Even if they give you a picture of their ID, there's still a chance that it's a fake one or it's someone else's. Identity theft is done by a lot of people. You can't trust someone just because he gave you the details of where he live, etc. Sometimes, even the people that you personally know can scam you. You can't trust anybody nowadays. Use a trusted escrow if you want to be safe with your transactions.

[Amph]

revealing your identity is even worse than deal with anonymous user, because your identity can be easily stolen, if you reveal it in the bad way, like sending your id or shit like that

it should remain as it is right now, with a pseudo anon scene, bitcoin also has its fundamental based on this

[Bitcoinbee]

It is a very secure way to be on low profile as not to expose information regarding the identity of anyone as long as there is no direct transactions being done since information known to be personal and legitimate can be used by notorious syndicates to scam or to hack accounts based on the personal information of a person.  So it is only right that the anonymity of a trader is be protected.  Otherwise due to regular trades being done by local traders they build this trust relationship status by being known to each other since most of these traders live in the same regions.

[carlisle1]

I was under the impression that Bitcoin has always been hailed for its ability to conduct anonymous transactions and was considered an anonymous digital currency as it is still possible to buy/sell/trade bitcoin without the requirement of  identity proof or address proof.

However there seems to be much consensus on the forum that trust in trading bitcoin is synonymous with knowing the named identity of person you are trading with. 

Is it acceptable to trade anonymously within the bitcointalk marketplace?
Is it the general consensus that doing so makes you untrustworthy by default?

It can be acceptable to trade anonymously as long your trading partner don't have a bad reputation or a negative trust in trading . It is is recommended to always use escrow just to make that the transaction is safe and legitimate . Although some people don't have a negative trust it doesnt mean that they are trusted trader so you should be careful .

[techgeek]

Just to brush up back on the points I mentioned here.

At this point its a must. I only say this because the price of bitcoin attracts new regulars and possible chances of you being a target as well.

Esp when the bitcoin is now climbing towards the $1k marker. Its similar to knowing how much a liquor store or any business has - and their location (chances for theft) of a robbery.

[wallet4bitcoin]

I don't understand this comment 
What has that to do with anonymity. Also I am learning more and more that bitcoin is not truly anonymous.

[Piltover]

I think it is and the fact is that its not very bad in my eyes due to the fact that its in my eyes even good because it gives people privacy.

[praprata]

Yes its acceptable and people are also accepting it more, I think its pretty good and that is also what is giving the bitcoin power in my eyes.
The fact that its anonymous, the privacy.

[deisik]

I don't understand this comment 
What has that to do with anonymity. Also I am learning more and more that bitcoin is not truly anonymous

How can it really be if all Bitcoin transactions from day 0 are imprinted on the Blockchain for everyone to look in and search for? With every transaction you make, the chances to remain truly anonymous evaporate. And this holds true even if you create a new address whenever you transact...

Even Bitcoin mixers keep logs despite what they may claim

[romero121]

Yes its acceptable and people are also accepting it more, I think its pretty good and that is also what is giving the bitcoin power in my eyes.
The fact that its anonymous, the privacy.

Yeah bitcoin anonymous nature is the one which has got such a enormous number of user profile and counting. If its not anonymous then bitcoin and other cryptcurrencies have never been used as it is now.

[Kray]

I was under the impression that Bitcoin has always been hailed for its ability to conduct anonymous transactions and was considered an anonymous digital currency as it is still possible to buy/sell/trade bitcoin without the requirement of  identity proof or address proof.

However there seems to be much consensus on the forum that trust in trading bitcoin is synonymous with knowing the named identity of person you are trading with. 

Is it acceptable to trade anonymously within the bitcointalk marketplace?
Is it the general consensus that doing so makes you untrustworthy by default?

Sometimes it's Unacceptable. Because we can't track if we got scammed.

[BlackPanda]

I'm sure it was received. if it is not accepted, the bitcoin could not flourish as it is today. That is an advanced bitcoin excess.

[n691309]

It depends on what you are dealing for, if it is about digital goods then its not much a problem, you can you bitcoin mixers but if you are dealing for physicall goods then its more dangerous.

[techgeek]

It depends on what you are dealing for, if it is about digital goods then its not much a problem, you can you bitcoin mixers but if you are dealing for physicall goods then its more dangerous.

In my view most of the darknet has died out or collapsed on its own.

You`ll notice its not as crazy as the last year ago when you seen so many giftcards/uber/other crazy stuff appearing in the digital goods section.

[Altcoinsupporter]

Yes its acceptable and also good because we need more privacy these days, everything is getting controlled and has rules these days.
We should fight for or privacy and freedom!

[morantis]

I was under the impression that Bitcoin has always been hailed for its ability to conduct anonymous transactions and was considered an anonymous digital currency as it is still possible to buy/sell/trade bitcoin without the requirement of  identity proof or address proof.

However there seems to be much consensus on the forum that trust in trading bitcoin is synonymous with knowing the named identity of person you are trading with. 

Is it acceptable to trade anonymously within the bitcointalk marketplace?
Is it the general consensus that doing so makes you untrustworthy by default?

the very idea of decentralized currency is anonymity at the government level and the lack of controls.  at the same time, that anonymity is at a personal and business level.  that does not make a person untrustworhty by default but does lead to the need from time to time for additional controls, like a REAL escrow and not just some schmuck that says he can be trusted

[Dudeperfect]

I think the answer would differ from person to person. Since bitcoin was created by satoshi and he wanted to stay anonymous then it’s completely okay for him to stay anonymous. If someone is looking to evade tax and considering bitcoin as an alternative to a swiss bank then I don’t see it white hat practice.

I don’t maintain anonymity in every case (that doesn’t mean I revel my details unnecessarily) of trade because I don’t think it’s necessary but again it’s my opinion and might be completely wrong.

[xuan87]

for me, i think its acceptable to stay anonymous in trading, even though i understand there are some risk when you trade with the company or the person you dont know, however bitcoin was created this way, many user use bitcoin because they can stay hidden, but if you not comfortable with this then maybe bitcoin is not the right coin for you