[Warning] casino.bitcoin.com is scamming the users!

[kevincl01]

Hi,

Two days ago i bought 0.03 BTC to play on casino.bitcoin.com because i thought it was legit playing on a site that is a subdomain of bitcoin.com. Anyway, i played on blackjack and won and i placed a withdrawal of 0.103 BTC that becomes pending for over 24 hours . I opened the live chat and gently said that my deposit had over 100 confirmations and i waited more than 24 hours and still waiting for withdrawal. Then after some time the agent said this "Unfortunately, this is a case of double-spending. For that reason, your winnings will be confiscated and account permanently closed. Thanks for understanding."
I didn't make a "double-spend", i don't even know what is? They closed my account and stole my money! This is unacceptable! My deposit: https://blockchain.info/pt/address/37poxtVQmj4fAMKBXJ8aiP2xf69QHdQqri and tx https://blockchain.info/pt/tx/e437a2c31a644bf0fd5e380aecb457df5b9250b189c50d81f6cbb385946774ae

Attention , they will stole your money if you win, stay away!

[merelcoin]

Hi,

Two days ago i bought 0.03 BTC to play on casino.bitcoin.com because i thought it was legit playing on a site that is a subdomain of bitcoin.com. Anyway, i played on blackjack and won and i placed a withdrawal of 0.103 BTC that becomes pending for over 24 hours . I opened the live chat and gently said that my deposit had over 100 confirmations and i waited more than 24 hours and still waiting for withdrawal. Then after some time the agent said this "Unfortunately, this is a case of double-spending. For that reason, your winnings will be confiscated and account permanently closed. Thanks for understanding."
I didn't make a "double-spend", i don't even know what is? They closed my account and stole my money! This is unacceptable! My deposit: https://blockchain.info/pt/address/37poxtVQmj4fAMKBXJ8aiP2xf69QHdQqri and tx https://blockchain.info/pt/tx/e437a2c31a644bf0fd5e380aecb457df5b9250b189c50d81f6cbb385946774ae

Attention , they will stole your money if you win, stay away!

If your address is 1C25NdiY9UbWQ2LdrVkMywbzUGAN8GDWaY and their address is 37poxtVQmj4fAMKBXJ8aiP2xf69QHdQqri you have a good scam report. The only problem is that with these transactions alone, for me it's pretty hard to see the proof that their deposit addres was indeed 37poxtVQmj4fAMKBXJ8aiP2xf69QHdQqri.
It would be even better if you had screenshots showing that the deposit address they gave you was indeed 37poxtVQmj4fAMKBXJ8aiP2xf69QHdQqri and maybe a screenshot from the chat window?

[kevincl01]

The deposit address is this: 37poxtVQmj4fAMKBXJ8aiP2xf69QHdQqri , but they closed my account and i can't login to make a screenshot of the deposit address :/ . But i have the livechat conversation: http://s33.postimg.org/4wjc7lien/proof.png

[poplolnman]

The deposit address is this: 37poxtVQmj4fAMKBXJ8aiP2xf69QHdQqri , but they closed my account and i can't login to make a screenshot of the deposit address :/ . But i have the livechat conversation: http://s33.postimg.org/4wjc7lien/proof.png

well , according to the live chat screenshot you provided above i think casino.bitcoin.com claiming that your transaction to deposit are double spending (a failure transaction mode) , but i can't see it here in this tx id https://blockchain.info/tx/e437a2c31a644bf0fd5e380aecb457df5b9250b189c50d81f6cbb385946774ae , are you sure that 37poxtVQmj4fAMKBXJ8aiP2xf69QHdQqri  is your deposit address?

[kevincl01]

I'm 100% sure. If they let me access to my account i would make a screenshot. They are saying that just to steal my money, i'm so sad right now :/

[bitkilo]

I'm 100% sure. If they let me access to my account i would make a screenshot. They are saying that just to steal my money, i'm so sad right now :/

I have just found this thread now, please PM me any further details you think may help and i will see what i can do for you.

I am looking into it now.

[BitMaxz]

Looks like you have already negative trust and looks like you are trying to scam people.. if you are starting scam topic.. better to start it in scam accusation and i think you have low proof that you are scam by someone..

[Xenophoto]

Correct me if I'm wrong. Double spending is when you deposit something which is not confirmed and not transferred just yet. And then that same money was/is spent on something else. Have you spent your money again while waiting for the confirmation? I'm not sure if this is even possible in bitcoin because the transactions are almost instant.

[kevincl01]

I just made one deposit as you can see, i have searched for double spending transactions but i don't know if it is even possible?

[bitkilo]

I just made one deposit as you can see, i have searched for double spending transactions but i don't know if it is even possible?

What wallet client did you send the transaction from?

[kevincl01]

Hi Bitkilo thanks for your help, it was from blockchain.info

[Casino.bitcoin.com]

Hi there kevincl01,

Can you please provide me with your Casino username via PM?

Thanks so much!

[bitkilo]

Hi there kevincl01,

Can you please provide me with your Casino username via PM?

Thanks so much!

Looking at the live chat log he posted it looks as though his username may be: Mark Zafra
http://s33.postimg.org/4wjc7lien/proof.png

I will leave this in your capable hands to deal with now, thanks.

[kevincl01]

I think he means the email that is used to login in my account. I sent a PM with my username.

[Casino.bitcoin.com]

Looking at the live chat log he posted it looks as though his username may be: Mark Zafra
http://s33.postimg.org/4wjc7lien/proof.png

I will leave this in your capable hands to deal with now, thanks.

Thanks bitkilo!

I think he means the email that is used to login in my account. I sent a PM with my username.

PM received, thank you. I will respond in a separate post below.

[Casino.bitcoin.com]

REFUTING SCAM ACCUSATION

I didn't make a "double-spend", i don't even know what is? They closed my account and stole my money! This is unacceptable! My deposit: https://blockchain.info/pt/address/37poxtVQmj4fAMKBXJ8aiP2xf69QHdQqri and tx https://blockchain.info/pt/tx/e437a2c31a644bf0fd5e380aecb457df5b9250b189c50d81f6cbb385946774ae

Our Casino is 100% legitimate, our reputation and domain means far more to us than any amount of funds, and we are backed by an entity which already holds a very significant amount of BTC so we have absolutely no incentive to steal any funds from anyone. As long as all Casino rules are followed, all winnings can be withdrawn.

I will outline our proof below, and include screenshots. Screenshots can be falsified, of course, but the Bitcoin blockchain cannot so I encourage all users not to rely on screenshots as evidence. Take only immutable information as truth.

If your address is 1C25NdiY9UbWQ2LdrVkMywbzUGAN8GDWaY and their address is 37poxtVQmj4fAMKBXJ8aiP2xf69QHdQqri you have a good scam report. The only problem is that with these transactions alone, for me it's pretty hard to see the proof that their deposit addres was indeed 37poxtVQmj4fAMKBXJ8aiP2xf69QHdQqri.

★★What the user did not state in their OP is that they also have another account on our Casino using a different IP address. This account uses the email address "andre_ffer7@hotmail.com", which I will refer to as "andre_ffer7". This actually breaches the T&C's of our Casino and makes both accounts liable to disabling. Though there is no clear link in the Dashboard logs, the Bitcoin address and Bitcoin blockchain provides all the evidence we need.★★

Pertinent information:

There are 3 different addresses we need to look at here:

• 1C25NdiY9UbWQ2LdrVkMywbzUGAN8GDWaY (User's input address, as stated in OP)
• 37VqA6YtPUqWkubY3Z6ESJXkMpucGcThfD ("andre_ffer7" output address - one of our deposit addresses, NOT stated in OP)
• 37poxtVQmj4fAMKBXJ8aiP2xf69QHdQqri ("mark_11kaymen" output address - one of our deposit addresses, stated in OP)

There are 2 separate accounts (arranged here by time of use):

• andre_ffer7
• mark_11kaymen

andre_ffer7 (37VqA6YtPUqWkubY3Z6ESJXkMpucGcThfD):

I can confirm that 37VqA6YtPUqWkubY3Z6ESJXkMpucGcThfD is this user's deposit address for Casino.bitcoin.com, using the account "andre_ffer7" (Player# 5127, which can be seen in the Dashboard URL)
https://i.imgur.com/2ZiZxSC.png

You will note that this transaction to the "andre_ffer7" account was sent with a insufficient fee to relay:
https://i.imgur.com/mpjlakE.png
https://i.imgur.com/9LyrJB1.png
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/518cf0067c0356fe0d9b555111c30330e39cfc9935beb7b26aafd26f4907f72b
Please note the input address (1C25NdiY9UbWQ2LdrVkMywbzUGAN8GDWaY) in the above transaction.


mark_11kaymen (37poxtVQmj4fAMKBXJ8aiP2xf69QHdQqri):

I can confirm that 37poxtVQmj4fAMKBXJ8aiP2xf69QHdQqri is this user's deposit address for Casino.bitcoin.com, using the account "mark_11kaymen" (Player# 6203, which can be seen in the Dashboard URL)
https://i.imgur.com/r0vnEi0.png

You will note that this transaction to the "mark_11kaymen" account was sent with an insufficient fee to relay:
https://i.imgur.com/YNrpz97.png
https://i.imgur.com/ThC0Kbc.png
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/e437a2c31a644bf0fd5e380aecb457df5b9250b189c50d81f6cbb385946774ae
Please note the input address (1C25NdiY9UbWQ2LdrVkMywbzUGAN8GDWaY) in the above transaction.


Player# 5127 andre_ffer7@hotmail.com
Player# 6203 mark_11kaymen@yopmail.com

I noticed the above accounts when checking the unconfirmed deposit for player 5127, and I happened to see another deposit for player 6203 in our Dashboard timeline. The amount was strikingly similar to the unconfirmed deposit for player 5127 so I looked into the Tx info on blocktrail.com and noticed the same address (1C25NdiY9UbWQ2LdrVkMywbzUGAN8GDWaY) being used to fund both accounts with 0.02xxxxxx BTC, despite that address only ever having received 0.03 BTC in total.

This transaction (double-spend, unconfirmed) was to the account andre_ffer7@hotmail.com
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/518cf0067c0356fe0d9b555111c30330e39cfc9935beb7b26aafd26f4907f72b
https://blockchain.info/tx/518cf0067c0356fe0d9b555111c30330e39cfc9935beb7b26aafd26f4907f72b
[Now pruned - please see at Blocktrail.com]

This transaction (confirmed) was to the account mark_11kaymen@yopmail.com
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/e437a2c31a644bf0fd5e380aecb457df5b9250b189c50d81f6cbb385946774ae
https://blockchain.info/tx/e437a2c31a644bf0fd5e380aecb457df5b9250b189c50d81f6cbb385946774ae


We allow 0 confirmation play on our Casino, and you tried to take advantage of that to defraud us.

As can very clearly be seen by the evidence presented above you sent 0.02999432 BTC to your "andre_ffer7" account with an inadequate fee, which you lost, so you double-spent that amount and sent 0.02899342 BTC to your "mark_11kaymen" account.

The most common way that players attempt to double-spend at a 0 confirmation casino is by sending a transaction with insufficient fees; if they win at the casino, they simply wait and let the transaction confirm. If they lose, they quickly double-spend making the original transaction null and void.

We do NOT allow double-spenders on our Casino, and as per our Casino rules if you attempt to defraud us you are liable to having all funds in your account confiscated. These are the terms by which you agree to play on our Casino.

If you have any further questions please ask them here in public for all to see, or if you wish to refute any of the above presented evidence please feel free to do so and I will respond when time permits.

Thank you.

[joksim299]

REFUTING SCAM ACCUSATION

I didn't make a "double-spend", i don't even know what is? They closed my account and stole my money! This is unacceptable! My deposit: https://blockchain.info/pt/address/37poxtVQmj4fAMKBXJ8aiP2xf69QHdQqri and tx https://blockchain.info/pt/tx/e437a2c31a644bf0fd5e380aecb457df5b9250b189c50d81f6cbb385946774ae

Our Casino is 100% legitimate, our reputation and domain means far more to us than any amount of funds, and we are backed by an entity which already holds a very significant amount of BTC so we have absolutely no incentive to steal any funds from anyone. As long as all Casino rules are followed, all winnings can be withdrawn.

I will outline our proof below, and include screenshots. Screenshots can be falsified, of course, but the Bitcoin blockchain cannot so I encourage all users not to rely on screenshots as evidence. Take only immutable information as truth.

If your address is 1C25NdiY9UbWQ2LdrVkMywbzUGAN8GDWaY and their address is 37poxtVQmj4fAMKBXJ8aiP2xf69QHdQqri you have a good scam report. The only problem is that with these transactions alone, for me it's pretty hard to see the proof that their deposit addres was indeed 37poxtVQmj4fAMKBXJ8aiP2xf69QHdQqri.

★★What the user did not state in their OP is that they also have another account on our Casino using a different IP address. This account uses the email address "andre_ffer7@hotmail.com", which I will refer to as "andre_ffer7". This actually breaches the T&C's of our Casino and makes both accounts liable to disabling. Though there is no clear link in the Dashboard logs, the Bitcoin address and Bitcoin blockchain provides all the evidence we need.★★

Pertinent information:

There are 3 different addresses we need to look at here:

• 1C25NdiY9UbWQ2LdrVkMywbzUGAN8GDWaY (User's input address, as stated in OP)
• 37VqA6YtPUqWkubY3Z6ESJXkMpucGcThfD ("andre_ffer7" output address - one of our deposit addresses, NOT stated in OP)
• 37poxtVQmj4fAMKBXJ8aiP2xf69QHdQqri ("mark_11kaymen" output address - one of our deposit addresses, stated in OP)

There are 2 separate accounts (arranged here by time of use):

• andre_ffer7
• mark_11kaymen

andre_ffer7 (37VqA6YtPUqWkubY3Z6ESJXkMpucGcThfD):

I can confirm that 37VqA6YtPUqWkubY3Z6ESJXkMpucGcThfD is this user's deposit address for Casino.bitcoin.com, using the account "andre_ffer7" (Player# 5127, which can be seen in the Dashboard URL)


You will note that this transaction to the "andre_ffer7" account was sent with a insufficient fee to relay:

https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/518cf0067c0356fe0d9b555111c30330e39cfc9935beb7b26aafd26f4907f72b

Please note the input address (1C25NdiY9UbWQ2LdrVkMywbzUGAN8GDWaY) in the above transaction.


mark_11kaymen (37poxtVQmj4fAMKBXJ8aiP2xf69QHdQqri):

I can confirm that 37poxtVQmj4fAMKBXJ8aiP2xf69QHdQqri is this user's deposit address for Casino.bitcoin.com, using the account "mark_11kaymen" (Player# 6203, which can be seen in the Dashboard URL)


You will note that this transaction to the "mark_11kaymen" account was sent with an insufficient fee to relay:

https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/e437a2c31a644bf0fd5e380aecb457df5b9250b189c50d81f6cbb385946774ae

Please note the input address (1C25NdiY9UbWQ2LdrVkMywbzUGAN8GDWaY) in the above transaction.


Player# 5127 andre_ffer7@hotmail.com
Player# 6203 mark_11kaymen@yopmail.com

I noticed the above accounts when checking the unconfirmed deposit for player 5127, and I happened to see another deposit for player 6203 in our Dashboard timeline. The amount was strikingly similar to the unconfirmed deposit for player 5127 so I looked into the Tx info on blocktrail.com and noticed the same address (1C25NdiY9UbWQ2LdrVkMywbzUGAN8GDWaY) being used to fund both accounts with 0.02xxxxxx BTC, despite that address only ever having received 0.03 BTC in total.

This transaction (double-spend, unconfirmed) was to the account andre_ffer7@hotmail.com
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/518cf0067c0356fe0d9b555111c30330e39cfc9935beb7b26aafd26f4907f72b
https://blockchain.info/tx/518cf0067c0356fe0d9b555111c30330e39cfc9935beb7b26aafd26f4907f72b
[Now pruned - please see at Blocktrail.com]

This transaction (confirmed) was to the account mark_11kaymen@yopmail.com
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/e437a2c31a644bf0fd5e380aecb457df5b9250b189c50d81f6cbb385946774ae
https://blockchain.info/tx/e437a2c31a644bf0fd5e380aecb457df5b9250b189c50d81f6cbb385946774ae


We allow 0 confirmation play on our Casino, and you tried to take advantage of that to defraud us.
As can very clearly be seen by the evidence presented above you sent 0.02999432 BTC to your "andre_ffer7" account with an inadequate fee, which you lost, so you double-spent that amount and sent 0.02899342 BTC to your "mark_11kaymen" account.
The most common way that players attempt to double-spend at a 0 confirmation casino is by sending a transaction with insufficient fees; if they win at the casino, they simply wait and let the transaction confirm. If they lose, they quickly double-spend making the original transaction null and void.

We do NOT allow double-spenders on our Casino, and as per our Casino rules if you attempt to defraud us you are liable to having all funds in your account confiscated. These are the terms by which you agree to play on our Casino.

If you have any further questions please ask them here in public for all to see, or if you wish to refute any of the above presented evidence please feel free to do so and I will respond when time permits.

Thank you.

I see you care of your players privacy! Great! 

[Casino.bitcoin.com]

I see you care of your players privacy! Great!  

We do indeed, and I removed the player's IP addresses for this reason. However, this player has attempted to defraud and steal from our Casino. In such instances, "naming and shaming" is often the best course of action and it can sometimes also prevent other casinos from being defrauded by the same user. As a result, the email addresses (one Hotmail, one a disposable Yopmail) were posted.

I know you like to try pick at anything to do with us, and people doing that is an exceptionally good thing because it ensures that a company holds itself to the highest standards and conducts its business accordingly.

If you have any input on this user's attempt to defraud our Casino we'd love to add that to the discussion here.

[Please also note that the images which appear in your quoted post were incorrectly linked prior to my subsequent post edits. They are now in the correct places. If you'd like to re-quote the post I'd greatly appreciate it as this account cannot yet display linked images, but of course that is entirely up to you.]

[kevincl01]

Well its funny the things the people can do to scam the community.

First, as i stated in the thread, "I bought 0.03 BTC" that was sent to my deposit address in my casino.bitcoin.com account. I bought 0.03 BTC from a guy who was selling low volume bitcoins and was promoting your website in his signature and i was curious about the casino domain and wanted to play a little bit.

With this you are assuming that all the people who send transactions with a low fee are making a double-spending  ? Maybe there is some people that don't have much money to spend and do everything to save, including sending transactions with a small fee.

Second, i thought you would disclose some of my information publicly as you said in PM and i accepted, but you are disclosing other people information that i have not anything to do, thats not good.

This is completely unacceptable, but i will have to accept this loss because i see that you won't give up trying to scam all the people you can and making excuses.
Thankfully i only bought 13$!

--Mark

[DarkStar_]

A low fee doesn't make it double spending, but 2 transactions were created, using the same input which is double spending. Blocktrail.com says that this transaction was a double spend: https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/518cf0067c0356fe0d9b555111c30330e39cfc9935beb7b26aafd26f4907f72b
That input was also used for transaction e437a2c31a644bf0fd5e380aecb457df5b9250b189c50d81f6cbb385946774ae, which was the transaction that deposited into the account where you won. Pretty obvious double spend attempt. Wasn't expecting an attempt at casino.bitcoin.com, I was predicting that after Directbet/PD were hit, someone would try BitSler. Seems like a lot of people have been complaining that their cheating failed.


Don't ever buy BTC from that person again, if you actually bought btc.