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December 13, 2017, 12:59:43 AM |
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I'm not clear on this one point. If somebody got a hold of my private key and moved funds from an address that I claimed on the ledger, is that against the law? At what point could that be considered a crime? For example, if they hacked into my machine and stolen the private key; if they sniped the pk while snooping on a public access connection; brute forced the pk into existence; or just plane snapped a shot of my qr code over my shoulder....ect In which of those examples could I pursue prosecution for the theft of my coin?
It's little bit technical but in summary i think it's regarded as digital theft. In advanced countries that recognised digital theft, you can make a case out of it. Though it's difficult to proof brute forced as an illegal or digital theft.
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December 13, 2017, 06:33:55 AM |
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Here the hackers do not need,I wanted to translate dogcon with dogcon wallet to another wallet,but the dogs never came.Out YouTube as there are videos that Satoshi lost in translation and it is the fault of the developers of blockchain wallet.
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December 13, 2017, 10:52:53 AM |
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All of those scenarios look like theft. Problem is the authorities ain't gonna care enough to do anything about it. Those guys are geared to nail single moms taking nappies from the store, not remote crimes of stuff they don't understand.
Yes, I'm not sure if authorities will considered it as a crime. Sometime they will only tell you that they understand your situation but they will tell you that there is still no laws for that kind of crime or maybe just ignore because they don't know or don't have any idea what you're talking to.
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December 14, 2017, 06:01:00 AM |
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Keep safe yourself on way & always keep clean your PC from effective virus. Don’t click unknown link from an unknown person. You can use a good antivirus also never save your password on browser.
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December 15, 2017, 02:30:47 AM |
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All of those scenarios look like theft. Problem is the authorities ain't gonna care enough to do anything about it. Those guys are geared to nail single moms taking nappies from the store, not remote crimes of stuff they don't understand.
Yes, I'm not sure if authorities will considered it as a crime. Sometime they will only tell you that they understand your situation but they will tell you that there is still no laws for that kind of crime or maybe just ignore because they don't know or don't have any idea what you're talking to. This is true which it would really depend on the laws regarding on this matter into your country but majority wont even know that bitcoin does exist or if they do they would neglect you since they cant do nothing and theres no such law regarding to it. In the sense of hacking or stealing your btc wallet it is indeed illegal since it do consider as theft but in legal laws its not been considered . This is why we should really be careful on our wallet for not to be accessed by someone because if it does then you cant do nothing to retrieve it.
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December 15, 2017, 08:25:15 AM |
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Yes of course it is illegal. That's the same as stealing our money. But on the other side, in a country that has not legalized the bitcoin and we filed the case to the law, I think we cant get legal protection because bitcoin is considered illegal by the government.
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December 15, 2017, 11:18:45 AM |
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I think it is obviously illegal. The invasion of someone’s property without the consent of the owner is a fraud and illegal thing which leads to them a imprisonment. The company of bitcoin does not tolerate this illegal things and they will provide immediate action for this activities.
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December 15, 2017, 12:06:32 PM |
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All of those scenarios look like theft. Problem is the authorities ain't gonna care enough to do anything about it. Those guys are geared to nail single moms taking nappies from the store, not remote crimes of stuff they don't understand.
Good point. What the hacker did is actually wrong and is considered a crime under theft. However the problem is that not many countries (especially those who belong the third world countries) do not recognize digital theft. I guess when you're in country who does take this situation seriously, then you are lucky. It's unfortunate how if this happens and you can't do anything about it since the authority does not understand what this platform is and sometimes the government does not recognize it. Hopefully, the time would come that a certain protection or measure is established for everyone's wallet security and safety. Yes hacking is a crime, If a person is unable to earn bitcoin by himself or make out high profit of investment then why to get others hard work. They work hard to make some money in order to make their living better and their money gets steeled then it's a crime. Government is busy in making money for them self and pay no attention to mass, why would they care if the mass gets a loss when they are having their pocket full of money
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January 09, 2018, 09:53:33 AM |
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Digital theft can be one scenario. However, since the use of Bitcoin is out of any government's domain, there are no definite requisites to prove criminal actions there.
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January 09, 2018, 01:42:00 PM |
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No, you should not give to anyone your private key, if that happens then all your assets and all your coions will be stole.
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January 17, 2018, 08:56:52 PM |
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of course yes! It is illegal to hack others bitcoin wallet, because bitcoin wallet is private account of a one person who are investing in the cryptocurrency and taking a risk to earn a high amount of money, that's why hacking it is so illegal and it's not accepted in our government because it is a part of cyber crime. Don't hack someones bitcoin wallet for you to not get in prison.
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January 19, 2018, 06:22:22 AM |
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hI,
iT WAS GOOD QUESTION..
OFCOURSE NOT , no one can hack our account without our permition...
Eventhough, they have your passwor too they still need our permition...
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January 19, 2018, 07:29:41 AM |
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Good question, I think it would be depending on the current law running in your country relating to bitcoins and other cryptocurrency, if there is non then might fall under penalty on theft but I don't think that would like normal theft cases. But then as of now I still haven't heard case such as hacking by bruteforcing most of the time hacking are done thru getting credentials using phishing.
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January 20, 2018, 07:03:09 AM |
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I'm not clear on this one point. If somebody got a hold of my private key and moved funds from an address that I claimed on the ledger, is that against the law? At what point could that be considered a crime? For example, if they hacked into my machine and stolen the private key; if they sniped the pk while snooping on a public access connection; brute forced the pk into existence; or just plane snapped a shot of my qr code over my shoulder....ect In which of those examples could I pursue prosecution for the theft of my coin?
Yes it is a crime that same offense that applied to our community in which if your property will be taken by other person without your permission is a crime but the problem is how the offender will be punish if bitcoin is illegal in your country? therefore bitcoin should be legalized so that the government is oblige protect you and its citizens if their is a crime against bitcoin.
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January 20, 2018, 02:31:05 PM |
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Theft/ granting yourself unauthorized acces is illegal in almost every country that I know. I think the major question here is. What next? Police often don't have the technology, intellect and/or resources to do anything about it. And what complicates this even more is that hacking happens often cross border. Then you get jurisdiction problems which complications everything bigtime. Only major hacks where it is about major money might be eligible for investigation. In all other cases, you're just fucked and you should fix/dry you tears yourself.
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January 20, 2018, 05:25:58 PM |
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of course yes! It is illegal to hack others bitcoin wallet, because bitcoin wallet is private account of a one person who are investing in the cryptocurrency and taking a risk to earn a high amount of money.
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January 20, 2018, 07:30:32 PM |
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No, you should not give to anyone your private key, if that happens then all your assets and all your coions will be stole.
Its very important to not down in apiece of paper and store it properly so that whenever you require you will get it and you can use to unlock your wallet. This keys are important and need to store properly. Also only share with your known one and not with any other people.
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January 21, 2018, 01:33:18 AM |
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well most of civilised country's recognise digital theft. Different definitions are taken in to consideration. But most of those states have something like " if one breaks through securities to poses things that are hidden behind those this could probably make something bad, well my country digital theft gonna cost you if are you being caught
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January 21, 2018, 04:02:05 AM |
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Hacking someone else's electronic wallet is definitely illegal, but you can not report it to the authorities because from the beginning the legal protection of the consumer does not exist, you must know this risk before you decide to invest your money in it.
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January 21, 2018, 11:48:14 AM |
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If the crypto currency in your country is legitimately legalized, you will be able to protect your rights in the event of the theft of the crypto currency from your wallet, conduct a proper investigation and bring the guilty person to criminal liability. With the help of legislative norms, it is possible to fully regulate state administration in the sphere of crypto currency distribution, to identify subjects of crypto-currency transactions
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