Is Bitcoin Anonymous Enough For You?

[Moneroman88]

Would you, if asked, personally consider Bitcoin anonymous enough for your needs? Does it lack privacy features? Would you consider Bitcoin anonymous, semi-anonymous or transparent?

Do you want an anonymous crypto currency?

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[doublebit21]

Its still not enough for me because it can still trace.. you need to use any kind of mixers service before you can be a anonymous.

[Moneroman88]

Its still not enough for me because it can still trace.. you need to use any kind of mixers service before you can be a anonymous.

So you would not use Bitcoin for privacy sensitive transactions, would you?

Which cryptocurrency would you use for a need of such kind?

[Sharma]

I consider bitcoin semi anonymous since in most cases you'll need to identify yourself to an exchange in order to exchange FIAT to BTC and back, plus you'll need to identify yourself if and when you buy physical goods with bitcoin.
If you don't use tricks, the trace can be followed, and your history can be found out and coupled to your IRL identity.

That being said: i'm not doing anything illegal, so for me, the semi-anonymous propertys of bitcoin are good enough for me.

[Mumbeeptind1963]

Would you, if asked, personally consider Bitcoin anonymous enough for your needs? Does it lack privacy features? Would you consider Bitcoin anonymous, semi-anonymous or transparent?

Do you want an anonymous crypto currency?

It is enough for me because im just earning legal here but others didnt satisfy because i think they have illegal activities on bitcoin transaction to other bad guys. Why you dont want to track if your earning is legal. If you didnt want to track your Address just use Vpn so that the tracjer didnt track your location so that FBI didnt know how to find you.

[ning_chang]

Would you, if asked, personally consider Bitcoin anonymous enough for your needs? Does it lack privacy features? Would you consider Bitcoin anonymous, semi-anonymous or transparent?

Do you want an anonymous crypto currency?

Yes i find my bitcoin wallet anonymous. I can donate without knowing thats me,. But you can be located by the professional hackers , But still its anonymous for me

[Sharma]

Would you, if asked, personally consider Bitcoin anonymous enough for your needs? Does it lack privacy features? Would you consider Bitcoin anonymous, semi-anonymous or transparent?

Do you want an anonymous crypto currency?

It is enough for me because im just earning legal here but others didnt satisfy because i think they have illegal activities on bitcoin transaction to other bad guys. Why you dont want to track if your earning is legal. If you didnt want to track your Address just use Vpn so that the tracjer didnt track your location so that FBI didnt know how to find you.

AFAIK, it's actually pretty hard to find the ip of the one creating outputs, even without VPN. Your ip address isn't included in the tx, so it's allmost impossible for somebody to find the ip of the pc that was running a wallet and broadcasted a tx. the ip shown at, for example, blockchain.info is usually not the ip of the one broadcasting a transaction.
The reason for using a VPN (afaik) is to avoid services that generate deposit addresses, or other services that actually need to know your address logging your ip together with your address.

For example: if you create an account on a gambling site, they generate a unique deposit address for you and you deposit coins from an address you wish to keep private to this deposit address
=> without using a VPN, the gambling site knows your ip, and could potentially look up which input were used to generate an output to the deposit address coupled to this ip. This way, you can be traced. When using a VPN you avoid this problem.

second example: blockchain.info might actually log in their access.log both your ip and the bitcoin address you're checking. If the feds would analyse their logs, they could easily see which ip checked the saldo of which address at which time. This is also something you could avoid using a VPN

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it's anonymous enough for me. even more if you're going to count the many trusted services that can assist in making your bitcoins untraceable.

but I'm not into bitcoin because of the anonymity so my standard might be a little lower than those who are.

[michietn94]

As far as I still can use for transaction, it doesn't matter whenever it anonymous or not as long as I use bitcoin for good reason.
But for some reason, my goverment forbid bitcoin usage because it's anonymous. I do not find a great answer why they forbid them instead it can be use for investation

[Ardenyham]

For me, bitcoin is not anonymous at all.. Every bitcoin wallets I used they asked me my email and some of them asked my phone number too (xapo).. then how we could say that bitcoin is anonymous.
every exchanging and trading sites also require these basic and personal information for verification process,. and now there are available lots of bitcoin credit/debit cards, which require your country, city and home address, these makes this even worst.
bitcoin is totally not anonymous now..

[Lauda]

Its still not enough for me because it can still trace..

Tracing random numbers (e.g. amounts) or addresses won't do you any good.

you need to use any kind of mixers service before you can be a anonymous.

Not really, no.

I consider bitcoin semi anonymous since in most cases you'll need to identify yourself to an exchange in order to exchange FIAT to BTC and back, plus you'll need to identify yourself if and when you buy physical goods with bitcoin.

The term that is usually used is 'pseudo-anonymous', but your statement holds. Honestly, what did people expect? Completely anonymous coins are most likely never going to be available on regulated exchanges.

If you don't use tricks, the trace can be followed, and your history can be found out and coupled to your IRL identity.

Coupled by who? The only people that could potentially do that are the ones to which you've given your personal information to (e.g. exchanges). For everyone else, you are anonymous.

For me, bitcoin is not anonymous at all.. Every bitcoin wallets I used they asked me my email and some of them asked my phone number too (xapo).. then how we could say that bitcoin is anonymous.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Stop using online wallets already.

[Moneroman88]

Your answers are very interesting, please keep them coming. I'm reading every single comment of you guys. Detailed and elaborated answers are particularly interesting. Also thanks to Lauda for correcting some mistakes.

[fortuity]

Anonymity is not a problem for me and not something that attracts me, there is more about the opportunity to make money that make me like Bitcoins.

[unamis76]

Yes, the pseudo-anonymous nature of Bitcoin is enough for me. It is the perfect equilibrium between having enough privacy in my personal spending and having a transparent address where it can be seen how much and when did I receive funds.

[An0nym0us]

As a general user bitcoin is enough anonymous for me, I am not using it for any kind of activity that needs to be hidden.I am using it as a fast and easy way to low payment transfer fees without any headache and bitcoin is perfect for my needs.

[Bitcoinpro]

Fud thread delete

Being anonymous was never the design of crypto

being a non printable asset is

[hawkins]

Anonymity is not a problem for me and not something that attracts me, there is more about the opportunity to make money that make me like Bitcoins.

yes, I think so too. anonymous or not is not important, because I only see bitcoin as a business is very promising and reliable. I guess that makes me love bitcoin and unconcerned with others

[AngelDash]

Would you, if asked, personally consider Bitcoin anonymous enough for your needs? Does it lack privacy features? Would you consider Bitcoin anonymous, semi-anonymous or transparent?

Do you want an anonymous crypto currency?

Yes, I want bitcoin is anonymous

[Sharma]

I consider bitcoin semi anonymous since in most cases you'll need to identify yourself to an exchange in order to exchange FIAT to BTC and back, plus you'll need to identify yourself if and when you buy physical goods with bitcoin.

The term that is usually used is 'pseudo-anonymous', but your statement holds. Honestly, what did people expect? Completely anonymous coins are most likely never going to be available on regulated exchanges.

thanks for the correction... It's really warm in the office and i'm getting a bit sleepy. I couldn't remember the correct terminology .

If you don't use tricks, the trace can be followed, and your history can be found out and coupled to your IRL identity.

Coupled by who? The only people that could potentially do that are the ones to which you've given your personal information to (e.g. exchanges). For everyone else, you are anonymous.

Well, i'm not talking about a normal guy tracking you down. I'm actually thinking in the lines of law enforcement.

I might be paranoid, but I think that, for example, interpol working together with local law enforcement would have a pretty good shot of tracking down somebody if they had enough knowledge to do this.
They could follow the trace of inputs/outputs and ask a judge to order the biggest exchanges/shops/online wallets to reveil their full logs (addresses, exchange logs, identifying info, ip's,...), they could potentially track somebody down.

This is just me being paranoid tough, i'm not doing anything wrong myself, but i strongly believe somebody with enough power (legally) and recources would be able to track somebody down unless they used tricks (like mixers over VPN).

I could be wrong tough, i have no experience using BTC for illegal purposes, so i never had to hide my tracks. I personally believe that when you use bitcoin for legal purposes, you will never be interesting enough for people to actually want to track your movements.

[daffaco]

Would you, if asked, personally consider Bitcoin anonymous enough for your needs? Does it lack privacy features? Would you consider Bitcoin anonymous, semi-anonymous or transparent?

Do you want an anonymous crypto currency?

Yes, I think bitcoin anonymous for some people, to another people have different thinking