Diff thread june 7 to june 20 -picks are closed!!.... prize = 0.20 btc

[philipma1957]

We had a rollover.  new prize is .20 btc


https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

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Difficulty History

Date	Difficulty	Change	Hash Rate


[color=red][b]Jun 08 2016	196,061,423,940	-1.63%	1,403,462,340 GH/s   [/b][/color]



May 24 2016	199,312,067,531	2.60%	1,426,731,353 GH/s
May 11 2016	194,254,820,283	8.73%	1,390,530,167 GH/s
Apr 28 2016	178,659,257,773	-0.01%	1,278,892,782 GH/s
Apr 14 2016	178,678,307,672	7.09%	1,279,029,147 GH/s
Apr 01 2016	166,851,513,283	0.82%	1,194,369,655 GH/s
Mar 18 2016	165,496,835,118	4.46%	1,184,672,491 GH/s
Mar 04 2016	158,427,203,767	-3.10%	1,134,066,098 GH/s
Feb 19 2016	163,491,654,909	13.44%	1,170,318,852 GH/s
Feb 07 2016	144,116,447,847	20.06%	1,031,625,717 GH/s
Jan 26 2016	120,033,340,651	5.89%	859,232,121 GH/s
Jan 13 2016	113,354,299,801	9.12%	811,421,684 GH/s
Dec 31 2015	103,880,340,815	11.16%	743,604,444 GH/s
Dec 18 2015	93,448,670,796	18.14%	668,931,642 GH/s
Dec 06 2015	79,102,380,900	8.77%	566,236,898 GH/s
Nov 24 2015	72,722,780,643	10.44%	520,569,941 GH/s
Nov 11 2015	65,848,255,180	5.77%	471,360,171 GH/s
Oct 29 2015	62,253,982,450	2.25%	445,631,364 GH/s
Oct 15 2015	60,883,825,480	0.12%	435,823,399 GH/s
Oct 01 2015	60,813,224,039	2.49%	435,318,014 GH/s
Sep 17 2015	59,335,351,234	4.17%	424,738,988 GH/s
Sep 04 2015	56,957,648,455	4.98%	407,718,729 GH/s
Aug 22 2015	54,256,630,328	2.95%	388,384,088 GH/s
Aug 08 2015	52,699,842,409	0.81%	377,240,166 GH/s
Jul 25 2015	52,278,304,846	2.35%	374,222,683 GH/s
Jul 11 2015	51,076,366,303	3.39%	365,618,871 GH/s
Jun 28 2015	49,402,014,931	-0.58%	353,633,397 GH/s
Jun 14 2015	49,692,386,355	4.42%	355,711,957 GH/s
May 31 2015	47,589,591,154	-2.50%	340,659,563 GH/s
May 17 2015	48,807,487,245	2.44%	349,377,603 GH/s
May 03 2015	47,643,398,018	0.07%	341,044,727 GH/s
Apr 19 2015	47,610,564,513	-3.71%	340,809,696 GH/s
Apr 05 2015	49,446,390,688	5.84%	353,951,052 GH/s
Mar 22 2015	46,717,549,645	-1.50%	334,417,246 GH/s
Mar 08 2015	47,427,554,951	1.59%	339,499,662 GH/s
Feb 22 2015	46,684,376,317	5.01%	334,179,783 GH/s
Feb 09 2015	44,455,415,962	7.71%	318,224,263 GH/s
Jan 27 2015	41,272,873,895	-6.14%	295,442,739 GH/s
Jan 12 2015	43,971,662,056	8.20%	314,761,417 GH/s
Dec 30 2014	40,640,955,017	3.00%	290,919,288 GH/s
Dec 17 2014	39,457,671,307	-1.37%	282,449,013 GH/s
Dec 02 2014	40,007,470,271	-0.73%	286,384,627 GH/s
Nov 18 2014	40,300,030,328	1.76%	288,478,854 GH/s
Nov 05 2014	39,603,666,252	10.05%	283,494,086 GH/s
Oct 23 2014	35,985,640,265	2.81%	257,595,247 GH/s
Oct 09 2014	35,002,482,026	0.98%	250,557,526 GH/s
Sep 25 2014	34,661,425,924	16.20%	248,116,151 GH/s
Sep 13 2014	29,829,733,124	8.75%	213,529,547 GH/s
Aug 31 2014	27,428,630,902	15.03%	196,341,788 GH/s
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https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

Bitcoin Difficulty:   196,061,423,940
Estimated Next Difficulty:   197,347,028,121 (+0.66%)
Adjust time:   After 2011 Blocks, About 13.4 days>>>>>>>>   start picks  at blocks  1116
Hashrate(?):   1,591,093,592 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 9.6 minutes
3 blocks: 28.9 minutes
6 blocks: 57.7 minutes
Updated:   22:55 (14.5 minutes ago)


Bitcoin Difficulty:   196,061,423,940
Estimated Next Difficulty:   197,347,028,121 (+0.66%)
Adjust time:   After 2011 Blocks, About 13.4 days >>>>>>>>>>>>> end picks at 716
Hashrate(?):   1,591,093,592 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 9.6 minutes
3 blocks: 28.9 minutes
6 blocks: 57.7 minutes
Updated:   22:55 (14.7 minutes ago)


rules remain the same.

the most important rule is this is free contest  I give away the coins so I have final say  in any argument over payout.













please ignore this

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quote author=philipma1957 link=topic=893133.msg15307596#msg15307596 date=1466523025]
Well nicehash has a value for renters and for sellers of hash .

Nicehash sometimes, but only sometimes is a very good deal.


If you are selling to nicehash and want to earn more then standard you really need to understand how to do it .

 First go here {see screen shot below}

 and check the rates for 1000th
 for now 2.401 is the break even number.

So if you sell to nicehash you need to sell at  2.521 you will be paid about 101 percent.

this means you must set your p=2.521
and actually more like 2.55  and put nicehash first and kano or any pool you want second.

for me I use nicehash and set well above the thresh hold number of 2.521  I set at 2.777

which is 10% over
so  I consider the posting by nicehash to lack some needed transparency.

this is selling your hash to them

buy from them.  2.401 x .95 = 2.281  so if you can rent as low as 2.281  it would be good.

my rentals from them were quite a bit   50 coins a year.  no longer so. as they did something I thought was wrong to the winner of a solo block last fall.

ever since then I have rented less. there are the only company in the world of crypto coins that i know of that run the way they do.

So I give them some support as I think their business model should exist.
I do think they are a bit stupid in that they lack transparency and they would still do well by being more transparent.

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

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[NeuroticFish]

You may want to change the title if still possible. You meant "to june 20", right?


It was a rare period with fall in difficulty and quite a rise on the price. Will the diff rise a lot? Or maybe not? It will be interesting! And the prize rose too because of rollover.
I love this game!

[RichBC]

So interesting last Period and congrats to those who were the closest. Nice to have another negative and it does make you wonder about these spikes?

Particularly when a period is Zero or Negative are we sure that it's not just variance with this being a "not much happened Period" with the couple of high days towards the end just bringing us back close to zero?

We would BTW have been much closer to zero if Bitfury had not been offline, as d57heinz reported, 4 days ago.

Rich

[philipma1957]

well what will this mean:

Hello everyone,

Please note that it is a 3-day National Holiday in China from June 9 to June 11, 2016 so we will neither be able to respond to queries nor be able to carry out shipping of any orders or repairs during this time.

You may email us at info@bitmaintech.com for any urgent issues.

Wishing you all a merry time during the Dragon Boat Festival.

Regards,

the Bitmain team

this starts in 6 hours

[Cashew]

I don't know why but each time I see one of your thread about difficulty predictions, picks are already closed ...

[vapourminer]

well what will this mean:

Please note that it is a 3-day National Holiday in China from June 9 to June 11, 2016 so we will neither be able to respond to queries nor be able to carry out shipping of any orders or repairs during this time.

their site says s9 b1 will ship 12 july.. was this always the ship date? or did it change with this announcement?

course someone there could switch "on" the stockpile of waiting to be shipped s9s just before the party starts.

[vapourminer]

I don't know why but each time I see one of your thread about difficulty predictions, picks are already closed ...

picks are only open during a window in the middle of each difficulty period. just keep an eye on the thread.

[edonkey]

well what will this mean:

Please note that it is a 3-day National Holiday in China from June 9 to June 11, 2016 so we will neither be able to respond to queries nor be able to carry out shipping of any orders or repairs during this time.

their site says s9 b1 will ship 12 july.. was this always the ship date? or did it change with this announcement?

course someone there could switch "on" the stockpile of waiting to be shipped s9s just before the party starts.

The ship date was always the 12th. Hopefully Bitmain took the festival into account when they planned their S9 ship dates. It would be a shame for the early buyers if this was a repeat of the S7 B1 late shipping debacle.

My guess is that they will start shipping when they get back after the festival smack dab on the 12th, but nothing else will happen until then, including no new S9 batch announcements.

What this translates to is the S9 public release will have no impact on the hash rate till somewhere around the 15th. That means a little over half this adjustment period will be unaffected by the S9.

Unless of course they're already shipping to the big farms and letting the little guys wait.

[philipma1957]

I don't know why but each time I see one of your thread about difficulty predictions, picks are already closed ...

the picks stay open for about 3 days.  they will open in around 6 days

[ingiltere]

I think nobody expected a negative difficulty last time. S9's are shipped so they are not working, is this the main reason? I don't really know who speculate this market. Mining is like a gambling, hard to even make ROI but some big players always win something. Next difficulty will be positive, probably.

[Mikestang]

I think the negative is gear shutting off to make way for the new stuff.  My conspiracy theory of a ~30% attack to control difficulty is just that, a conspiracy theory.  Realistically I think this is the calm before the storm before the halving.

[notlist3d]

I think the negative is gear shutting off to make way for the new stuff.  My conspiracy theory of a ~30% attack to control difficulty is just that, a conspiracy theory.  Realistically I think this is the calm before the storm before the halving.

My hope for having is it finnaly get's some of the old machines off the network.  A cut in in profits will hurt us all... but old gear that has remained  on network might finnaly come off who knows.   I do agree we will see postive eventually as some will replace with new gear like S9 and for same amount of electricity will get a heck of a lot more hash. 

The biggest thing I don't believe the conspiracy for is I think if someone has 30 percent they would want it online hashing away before having.  Just a lot of profit lost if they leave it turned off. 

As far as value this period were starting around 580 on coinbase. So still a decent gain from last period hopefully we see some positive movement on price this time to.

[edonkey]

My guess is that they will start shipping when they get back after the festival smack dab on the 12th, but nothing else will happen until then, including no new S9 batch announcements.

Looks like I was wrong. Bitmain says they're going to announce a 12.9 TH/s variant of the S9 tonight.

I thought that Chinese companies took their festivals seriously. The fact that someone at Bitmain is working during a national holiday is interesting.

Maybe the uptake for the overpriced S9 just before the halving has been less than they expected. It will be very interesting to see the price of this new slightly lower powered S9 batch.

[philipma1957]

My guess is that they will start shipping when they get back after the festival smack dab on the 12th, but nothing else will happen until then, including no new S9 batch announcements.

Looks like I was wrong. Bitmain says they're going to announce a 12.9 TH/s variant of the S9 tonight.

I thought that Chinese companies took their festivals seriously. The fact that someone at Bitmain is working during a national holiday is interesting.

Maybe the uptake for the overpriced S9 just before the halving has been less than they expected. It will be very interesting to see the price of this new slightly lower powered S9 batch.

been drinking tonight so all comments could make 0 sense at all.

but I have 6 coins burning a hole in my pocket for gear.

[edonkey]

My guess is that they will start shipping when they get back after the festival smack dab on the 12th, but nothing else will happen until then, including no new S9 batch announcements.

Looks like I was wrong. Bitmain says they're going to announce a 12.9 TH/s variant of the S9 tonight.

I thought that Chinese companies took their festivals seriously. The fact that someone at Bitmain is working during a national holiday is interesting.

Maybe the uptake for the overpriced S9 just before the halving has been less than they expected. It will be very interesting to see the price of this new slightly lower powered S9 batch.

been drinking tonight so all comments could make 0 sense at all.

but I have 6 coins burning a hole in my pocket for gear.

LOL! Maybe you should hand your Trezor (or whatever wallet you use) to your wife for tonight

I'm in Japan now so I'm almost in the same timezone as Bitmain. But I left my Trezor at home,  so unless the new model is less than I'm carrying on my phone (i.e. dirt cheap) I won't be buying one today.

[philipma1957]

My guess is that they will start shipping when they get back after the festival smack dab on the 12th, but nothing else will happen until then, including no new S9 batch announcements.

Looks like I was wrong. Bitmain says they're going to announce a 12.9 TH/s variant of the S9 tonight.

I thought that Chinese companies took their festivals seriously. The fact that someone at Bitmain is working during a national holiday is interesting.

Maybe the uptake for the overpriced S9 just before the halving has been less than they expected. It will be very interesting to see the price of this new slightly lower powered S9 batch.

been drinking tonight so all comments could make 0 sense at all.

but I have 6 coins burning a hole in my pocket for gear.

LOL! Maybe you should hand your Trezor (or whatever wallet you use) to your wife for tonight

I'm in Japan now so I'm almost in the same timezone as Bitmain. But I left my Trezor at home,  so unless the new model is less than I'm carrying on my phone (i.e. dirt cheap) I won't be buying one today.

still buzzed no purchases tonight.

[petahashminer]

this diff rise will be interesting, with the arrival of new equipments it may be 10-15 %

but still diff is calm, i think shipped equipments has not arrived.

[vapourminer]

still buzzed no purchases tonight.

so did you  make it through till today without buying anything ? 

trick question actually if you cant remember last night too clearly you might not know until something comes in the mail heh

[philipma1957]

still buzzed no purchases tonight.

so did you  make it through till today without buying anything ? 

trick question actually if you cant remember last night too clearly you might not know until something comes in the mail heh

 

I woke up slightly hungover at 9:15 am New Jersey time   went to bitmaintech page and no batch 2 in sight.

An hour later the listing for  s-9 posted up and while I could have purchased 2 s-9 batch twos I ordered 1 batch 2.

So I have 3 s-9's coming  2 batch 1's and 1 batch 2.

[RichBC]

So I have 3 s-9's coming  2 batch 1's and 1 batch 2.

Very nice, really looking forward to hearing how these go?

So Yesterday was virtually a full Day in the new Difficulty Period and we did exactly 144 Blocks. I think with the way the last Period went that the correction will have been close to correct. Today we are tracking in a +4% to +8% band but way too few blocks in the Period to Date for that to mean anything.

I am still intrigued by the Day last Period that Bitfury was down which dropped the Period to Date down from -4% to -5%. It was then in the following 2 days that we saw the steady climb up to -2%?

The coin recovered some of it's previous Days loss. I guess breaking through $600 is going to take a few attempts.

Rich